Episode 312 · The Ben Avery Era
Private Prison Penthouse | The Tim Dillon Show #312
Aug 22, 2022 · 1:19:28 · 544,000 views · 17 segments, 117 moments indexed
This week Tim discusses a lawsuit a parent brought against a school, Andrew Tate being banned from TikTok and Instagram, Director Ben sabotaging the Netflix special, a 50 million dollar condo in LA, and why people in Hollywood won't help…
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- 1 min
Post-Special Wrap-Up: Netflix, Rogan, and Segura
#Tim opens the show thanking viewers for watching his Netflix special, noting it trended, and recaps appearing with Tom Segura, Joe Rogan, and Christina P to promote it, including a live stream at Christina's mom's house.
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- Tim's Netflix special trended on the platform for about a week and became one of the top search items.
- Tom Segura and Joe Rogan had him on their shows to promote the special, with fun discussions on both appearances.
- Tim did a crazy live stream at Your Mom's House with Christina P, then appeared on Joe Rogan the next day in Texas.
- The feedback has been very positive and he's happy to have the special out there and done.
- Moving forward with books, films, and other projects in the works for the not-too-distant future.
- 5 min
Tim reads a news story about a Black mother suing LA Unified after her daughter's school set up a cotton field for students to "experience" slavery, and rants about well-meaning people doing horrifying things in the name of teaching lessons, comparing it to building a gas chamber to teach the Holocaust.
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- Tim recalls sending the article to Ben and notes it's a legitimate lawsuit case, unlike the frivolous 1-800-Sue-Them billboard mentality of American litigation culture.
- A Black mother sued LA Unified School District over a cotton-picking project at an elementary school designed to teach students about slavery.
- The affected 14-year-old daughter experienced emotional distress after the project at Laurel Spann School, where a social justice teacher claimed it would give students a 'real life experience' of slavery.
- When the mother saw the cotton field on campus and spoke to the assistant principal, she learned her daughter's class was reading Frederick Douglass's autobiography and the field was meant for authentic slave experience learning.
- Tim points out the daughter didn't have to pick cotton herself but had to watch other students pick it while she was assigned to tend vegetables in the garden.
- The school's logic essentially forced a Black girl to tend vegetables while white students picked cotton as an educational exercise about slavery.
- Tim argues this is actually one of those rare lawsuits that makes sense—if your Black daughter came home saying she picked cotton at school to learn about slavery, any parent would reasonably be upset.
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- 5 min
Tim googles West Hollywood news and crime stats, riffing on rising crime, homelessness, and the absurdity of a $50 million penthouse condo being sold in an area full of shootings and robberies, comparing the building's security to a Wizard of Oz castle with flying monkeys and a moat.
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- When people try to be good but don't know how, they end up doing the most horrific things imaginable.
- Tim describes a school that planned a cotton-picking field in front of the building to teach kids about slavery.
- The absurdity of administrators brainstorming ways to recreate slavery for educational purposes.
- Tim's hypothetical about building a gas chamber in a gymnasium to teach the Holocaust, with kids assigned roles as Nazis and Jewish people.
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- 6 min
Selling Sunset Fantasy vs. LA's Homeless Reality
#Continuing on the $50 million condo, Tim mocks LA's obsession with high-end real estate shows amid its huge homeless population, imagining the view from the penthouse being people pushing shopping carts and looking like lepers.
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- Tim describes a $50 million condo on the market in West Hollywood.
- Google search results for West Hollywood news reveal multiple shootings and crime stories.
- West Hollywood crime has risen 38% in two weeks, with reports of assault, robbery, and burglary.
- LA is introducing vertical living in high-rise condos because single-family houses now have break-ins, theft, and violence.
- Real estate developers are marketing luxury condos with guards and gates to keep criminals out, making them sound like fortresses.
- The irony of LA having both the largest homeless population in the world and dozens of TV shows about luxury real estate.
- TV shows like Selling Sunset and Million Dollar Listing exclusively focus on high-end real estate while ignoring homelessness.
- From a $50 million condo window, buyers would see homeless people with lesions and soot pushing shopping carts full of belongings.
- Paying $50 million for a condo means staring at society unraveling directly outside your window.
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Tim plays and reacts to a real clip of LA real estate agents praising the city's weather and lifestyle on a live panel while police sirens and fire trucks blare in the background, calling it like an SNL sketch about denial.
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- Top LA real estate agents gathered to praise the city while sirens and fire trucks blare in the background.
- A friend leased a Malibu property for two weeks at $60,000 after initially looking at a $180,000 purchase.
- A realtor argues LA will rise in global rankings because it offers horizontal living and weather, unlike high-rise cities losing residents to political upheaval.
- Tim notes the air is "relatively clear" and traffic is manageable if you avoid long commutes, while police sirens continue blaring.
- The realtors must be mentally ill to sit there promoting LA's greatness while describing it as hell with sirens, fire trucks, and crime in the background.
- The scene plays like a Saturday Night Live sketch—brokers maintaining composure and smiling while chaos erupts around them.
- Buying a $50 million condo in West Hollywood right now is a great investment, Tim says flatly.
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- 3 min
Tim and Ben read a Sheath Underwear ad, riffing on the founder being an Iraq war veteran (allegedly involved with Chelsea Manning) who started the company after the war, plus jokes about the moisture-wicking fabric being derived from POW torture materials.
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- Tim endorses Sheath Underwear as the most comfortable he's ever worn.
- The owner of Sheath Underwear was an Iraq War veteran who started the company when he came back from deployment.
- Tim claims the founder locked Chelsea Manning in a cage and started the underwear company partly as a result of his guilt.
- Promo code tim20 gives 20 percent off orders at Sheath Underwear dot com.
- Sheath uses moisture-wicking technology with a dual pouch design and new bamboo and mesh materials.
- Tim jokes that the breathing materials were inspired by techniques the founder used to keep prisoners of war alive while torturing them with sensory deprivation.
- Tim reveals Sheath Underwear is now the only underwear he owns.
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A straightforward-ish ad for Babbel, with Tim and Ben discussing learning German and Swedish and the discount code for subscriptions.
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- Tim mentions wanting to learn a language and get dual citizenship, along with wanting places outside America to travel.
- He's switching from learning Swedish to Spanish because it's more practical.
- Tim expresses genuine excitement about wanting to learn a language.
- His wife is learning German, and he attempts to speak it.
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Tim discusses the "Kids for Cash" scandal where judges took kickbacks to send children to for-profit juvenile detention, some as young as 8, leading to overdoses and suicides; he argues the judges should be executed, tells his own story of getting a PINS petition as a kid, and introduces a running "point for Hasan" bit referencing a reaction video to his Rogan appearance.
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- Judges who sent kids to jail for kickbacks sentenced children as young as eight for jaywalking and truancy.
- Tim argues these judges should be executed for ordering children to be shackled and taken away without defense or goodbye to families.
- Idea for a segment called 'Point for Hasanabi' — awarding a Turkish delight candy when something bad happens in the capitalist system.
- Nearly 300 victims awarded over $200 million in damages, but unlikely to see most of it; 79 victims were under age 13.
- Several childhood victims from the lawsuit have since died from overdoses or suicide.
- One of the judges was released from prison early over virus concerns with six years remaining on his sentence.
- Tim proposes schools should build private prison simulations in playgrounds to teach kids about for-profit incarceration.
- Tim recounts his own childhood brush with law when a neighbor put a PINS petition on him for smoking pot and joking with a knife.
- Without family support and help from a judge like this, kids end up overdosing or turning to drugs.
- Point for Hasanabi scoring system: Turkish delight for correct takes, mashed potatoes for wrong ones.
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Cobra Kai's Homeless Dojo Season
#Tim describes (mockingly) a new season of Cobra Kai featuring a dojo made up of homeless people who learn martial arts to fight the kids, calling the concept tone-deaf, and riffs on martial arts as a possible solution for homelessness.
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- Cobra Kai is adding a third dojo this season: all homeless people in Los Angeles.
- Tim describes the homeless dojo plot: kids fight the unhoused people, then the homeless learn karate and beat up the kids in return.
- Martial arts is positioned as the pathway for homeless people to get housing and get sober instead of more funding or police enforcement.
- Tim finds the premise tone deaf—having a whole season where homeless people are forced to fight each other.
- One new homeless character is a war vet with Iraq flashbacks; Michael Arrusso teaches him to quiet his mind before he fights the kids.
- Tim argues that lack of discipline is probably why many of them are homeless in the first place.
- In Cobra Kai's defense, martial arts is a great organizing principle for structuring life and giving homeless people free karate lessons isn't the worst idea.
- The show took a nosedive around season three and is now over; the Stranger Things kids are 38 years old and divorced twice.
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Rosebud Baker's Movie and Ben's Directorial Debut
#Tim jokes about Stranger Things kids aging into divorce, then riffs on comedian Rosebud Baker's new horror-comedy film "Hell of a Summer," before pivoting to mock-praising Ben for directing the Netflix special and his family's proud social media tags, plus confusion over Tim's agent getting a "special thanks" credit.
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- Rosebud Baker just directed a movie, and Tim wonders why he wasn't cast in it.
- The film is called Hell of a Summer, a horror comedy with plot details kept secret.
- Tim's take: horror comedies are almost always bad, though a few like Shaun of the Dead work.
- Ben directed Tim's Netflix special, which Tim describes as standing a camera at a stage—one of the hardest things ever done.
- The cinematographers had only shot eight specials total for Joe Rogan and Louis C.K., so Ben's main job was making sure they pointed cameras at the stage.
- Tim's family is extremely proud of Ben's directing credit, though Tim questions whether they realize any of them could have done it too.
- Tim's agent listed himself in special thanks on the Netflix credits despite not being involved in directing, which Tim finds absurd.
- Tim acknowledges directing a comedy special—pointing cameras at a stage for an hour—is genuinely difficult and he's grateful Ben did it well.
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- 2 min
Tim and Ben read a DoorDash ad about the "Summer of DashPass" promotion, delivery fee savings, and a promo code, with some singing of "Shine Bright Like a Diamond."
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- Tim and Ben discuss what makes the DoorDash Summer of DashPass offer worthwhile.
- The promo code tim dillon gets 50% off your first order up to $15 value at checkout.
- 5 min
An extended BetterHelp ad where Tim discusses his own experience going to therapy in college after feeling sad, riffs on wanting therapy without leaving the house, and sings an improvised song about joining BetterHelp.
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- Tim notes that people get stressed and upset in summer, sweating and wondering why they're not happier.
- The car analogy: if you had to keep the same car your entire life, you'd beat the shit out of it—that's how brains work.
- Tim wants to stay home for therapy without leaving his house, and asks if he can get a new therapist if he doesn't like the first one.
- He imagines BetterHelp would cost him around six million dollars a year.
- Tim's college therapy story: he was really sad, went a few times, felt better, but his therapist wasn't his favorite so he stopped going rather than fire the guy.
- His therapist experience came from his parents' divorce when he was younger.
- Tim sings a parody of Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Under the Bridge" about joining BetterHelp.
- He claims he wrote the BetterHelp song himself.
- Tim reveals the parody is actually from the Red Hot Chili Peppers and calls the listener a sick fuck for not recognizing it.
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Tim discusses Andrew Tate being removed from TikTok and Twitter for alleged misogyny, plays clips of Tate's controversial comments about cheating and threatening women with a machete, and argues that deplatforming people prevents them from defending themselves, referencing a similar point made by Gavin McInnes.
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- Tim notes Andrew Tate's deplatforming without clear explanation from the companies doing it.
- Platform claims misogyny is hateful ideology, but Tim questions whether that standard was applied consistently before.
- Companies don't link users to specific statements when removing them, just broad accusations.
- Tim examines Tate's tweet about sexual assault responsibility in context—he says it's offensive but held by many reasonable people.
- Platforms want a villain and may be casting Tate in that role deliberately.
- Tim claims his recent Joe Rogan appearance contained the most meaningful thing ever said on the show.
- Video shows Tate describing machete attack on a female partner accusing him of cheating.
- Tate argues a man can only cheat if he loves someone else; sleeping with others while loving a partner is just exercise.
- Tate stated he left Romania partly because it would be easier to evade rape charges, though he claims he isn't a rapist.
- Deplatforming prevents someone from responding to allegations, allowing companies and critics to define them without recourse.
- Tim predicts platforms' practice of removing people and controlling narratives will eventually cause a schism—a split between opposed groups.
- Tate could migrate to alternative platforms like Rumble or his own paywall site like other pickup artist figures do.
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Why Young Men Gravitate to Andrew Tate
#Tim broadens the Tate discussion into a theory that young men are drawn to figures like Tate because traditional masculinity is demonized and no one else is speaking to them, while still questioning whether Tate's courses (like Hustlers University) are worth buying.
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- Tim discusses Andrew Tate's Hustlers University affiliate program being shut down after metaban.
- Is Andrew Tate really a bigger threat than government and Big Tech colluding to control speech?
- If fathers cannot talk to their sons and educate their children about behavior, we're all doomed.
- Young men are drawn to Tate because traditional masculinity is being demonized as toxic in modern culture.
- Straight men are constantly told their nature is a danger, so they're relieved when someone says they're actually fine.
- Young dudes aren't being served by anybody—they don't know where they fit into society.
- Enter Andrew Tate: when families and communities fail, someone will fill the void.
- People celebrate deplatforming their enemies but don't make the connection when it happens to them.
- Tim wouldn't buy most people's courses and questions what Hustlers University actually teaches.
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Tim and Ben discuss the upcoming merch drop and designs, tease a release date for the episode, and Tim jokingly accuses Ben of harboring sober resentment and anger issues while claiming he himself is unaffected.
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- Tim asks when the merch drop is coming and whether Ben handled it.
- Tim wants the merch to come out in late September or October.
- Tim claims he doesn't have resentments because he's a sober person, unlike Ben who white-knuckles his sobriety.
- Resentments are hating someone while they're out dancing and unaffected—which Tim says describes Ben's situation with him.
- Ben accuses Tim of being sloth-like, hateful, tired, and spaced out all day despite claiming to be funny and fun.
- Tim will be up until 5 a.m. to get the episode out, prompting a comparison to slaves picking cotton on a plantation.
- Ben pushes Tim to get people excited about the merch instead of downplaying it.
- Tim notes that Ben edited the podcast that went out, and could have left the camera out of focus or forgotten to hit record.
- Tim tells Ben to stop imitating Joe Rogan, wrongly.
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- 2 min
Old Man River and the Black Scent Compilation
#Tim and Ben joke about singing an old slave song like "Old Man River," then play and laugh over an "Uncle Fina" black scent recruitment video compilation, jokingly blaming it on Andrew Tate.
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- Tim notes it's 103 a.m. with three more hours to go on the show.
- Deciding whether to release the episode now or wait until 6 a.m. tomorrow to avoid algorithm issues.
- Tim realizes it's Saturday, changing the release strategy.
- Black scent compilation plays, with Tim defending it as funny and questioning why anyone's mad at it.
- The ocean aids recruitment scene from what appears to be a film clip.
- Tim likes the compilation and calls it good and fun.
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Tim thanks viewers, plugs his social media and comedy site, and says goodnight.
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- Tim provides his social media handles on Instagram and Twitter