Episode 37 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era

We're Gonna Get Ours

Mar 21, 2017 · 1:12:47 · 21 segments, 145 moments indexed

Tonight's Schedule21 segments · 145 moments
  1. 0:001 min

    Cold Open / Music Intro

    #Station Break

    Show intro music and network sting for Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell on GaS Digital Network.

    2moments
    • 0:10Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell
    • 0:22Society has bad things and bad people in it, and thank God for them
  2. 0:323 min

    Chuck Zito Took Our Studio

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    Tim explains Chuck Zito bumped them from the studio and riffs on Zito's Hells Angels history, knocking out Jean-Claude Van Damme, and a wild personal story about buying a car off a drunk biker whose baby was left alone in the house.

    6moments
    • 0:42Chuck Zito took over the studio, forcing Tim to record from his living room in Astoria.
    • 1:11Tim ran into bikers before and has stories about their behavior.
    • 1:52A friend's car got hit by a Pagan biker, who showed up and said an old lady was driving it.
    • 2:29The drunk biker arrived, crashed into a tree, then went into a locked house with his wife and came out carrying a baby that had been inside alone.
    • 3:21Tim is annoyed by how Sons of Anarchy romanticizes these guys as geniuses.
    • 3:31Chuck Zito got a small role on Sons of Anarchy as compensation for stories stolen from his book.

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  3. 3:542 min

    Threatening Chuck Zito and the Van Damme Bathroom Story

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    They joke about confronting Chuck Zito, then get into the story of Van Damme talking shit in a strip club bathroom and getting knocked out after a bouncer ratted him out to Zito.

    3moments
    • 3:54Tim and caller joke about inviting Chuck Zito to the apartment to fight him, then worry about getting sued and beaten up.
    • 4:33Tim threatens to shut down Chuck Zito's operations at the strip club.
    • 5:02Van Damme shows up drunk to the strip club and gets laid out by someone, establishing how street justice works.

    Jean-Claude Van DammeAmmonia Cafe

  4. 5:301 min

    Ammonia Bakery Cake Delivery and Mariachi Ringtone

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    Tim describes a late-night cake delivery from a Greek bakery in Astoria, the delivery guy's mariachi ringtone, and riffs on Astoria apartment living.

    4moments
    • 5:40Ammonia Bakery, a Greek spot in Astoria, stays open until 3 a.m. and delivers whatever you want.
    • 5:55A delivery guy showed up to drop off cake slices with mariachi music blaring from his phone.
    • 6:13Tim wonders if delivery drivers in the neighborhood play music from speakers while driving around.
    • 6:32Who orders three slices of Swiss roll cake and key lime pie at 10:30 p.m. before recording a podcast?

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  5. 6:433 min

    Alex Steinberg, Rich Kids Addicted to Video Games, and Rehab for the Internet

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    Tim recaps a previous guest's stories about wealthy teens becoming addicted to online role-playing games like a modern Second Life, leaving mansions to sit at filthy Wi-Fi kiosks, and needing rehab; drifts into jokes about rich kids on yachts and Eastern European minors.

    8moments
    • 6:46Rich kids are getting addicted to online role-playing games like Second Life, spending real money and living in cyber dimensions instead of reality.
    • 7:21Some of these kids are so hooked they have to go to rehab to get off the internet.
    • 7:38Tim describes rich kids leaving million-dollar apartments to sit at filthy public Wi-Fi kiosks playing League of Legends on MacBooks.
    • 8:07These aren't normal video game players—they're scumbag rich kids who don't fuck, addicted enough to require professional intervention.
    • 8:18Poor people probably get addicted to games too, but at least they have work and slavery to keep them occupied.
    • 8:53Rich people aren't actually sophisticated—they're just bored kids who grew up on yachts and blow jobs.
    • 9:11When you're conditioned to constant excess from childhood, even the most extreme experiences become routine and boring.
    • 9:39Tim tells his co-host he needs talking points and shouldn't be allowed to speak, referencing a previous episode described as the worst podcast ever recorded.

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  6. 10:005 min

    Rich People Who Fail at Stand-Up Comedy

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    A long riff on how painful it is to watch wealthy, privileged people try and fail at comedy, comparing it to losing the 'relatable card,' with asides about Nick Kroll and false camaraderie with the rich.

    9moments
    • 10:03Rich people failing at stand-up comedy is sadder than poor people failing because some people in comedy are literally allergic to funny.
    • 10:53Meeting a naturally unfunny person in comedy is like meeting someone who was 500 pounds and got in shape — the transformation makes it almost impressive.
    • 11:13There's nothing sadder than watching a privileged person try and fail at comedy, abandoning their actual options to be a clown in a Lower East Side bar.
    • 11:46Rich kids trying to relate at open mics have lost the relatable card — they grew up too wealthy to connect with the audience.
    • 12:27The lack of dignity in a rich person's pursuit of comedy is what makes it painful — the depths of their flailing matter more when they have other choices.
    • 13:22Tim admits he has more empathy for failing rich comedians than he probably should.
    • 13:58Some people might get good years down the road, but certain wealthy people at open mics have a tell that says they'll never be funny.
    • 14:27Rich people pursuing comedy want it all: money, fame, and attention from an art form they're terrible at.
    • 14:52It's the ultimate tragedy when someone threw away every opportunity they were given to pursue something they're completely terrible at.

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  7. 15:002 min

    Comedy's Middle-Class Roots and Vaudeville Freak Shows

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    Tim traces stand-up's lineage to vaudeville, dust bowl circuses, and freak shows, and jokes about being a carnival elixir salesman accused of biting a woman's breast.

    6moments
    • 15:03Very few people doing comedy are destitute; it's a middle-class pursuit.
    • 15:30It's interesting when super wealthy, jet-setting people from established fortunes choose to pursue comedy.
    • 15:47Comedy descends from vaudeville, which descended from Dustbowl circuses and freak shows.
    • 15:59Those circus characters and their legacy can't be taken away from comedy, as Mike Lawrence pointed out.
    • 16:15Tim jokes that traveling shows must have been full of sexual predators, like a historical wave.
    • 16:30Tim performs a bit as an elixir salesman defending himself against accusations of misconduct at a traveling show.

    Mike Lawrence

  8. 17:032 min

    Punk Rock Nostalgia and Corporate Co-optation

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    Discussion of whether the punk and art scenes (Sex Pistols, Lou Reed, Patti Smith) were ever as authentic as remembered, and how technology and corporate culture have killed underground scenes.

    6moments
    • 17:17Modern art galleries and punk aesthetics are nothing like the actual punk scene felt
    • 17:33Tim questions whether Lou Reed and Patti Smith snapshots represent the whole 1970s scene or just fragments
    • 17:55A lot of early punk rockers were transient middle-class kids whose fathers worked for IBM, trying to piss off their parents
    • 18:06Sex Pistols bassist wrote a book revealing they weren't poor—just middle-class people with safety pins
    • 18:27Technology and corporate structure immediately co-opt everything that tries to go underground
    • 18:42Tim jokes that punk rock would actually be cool if you could only find it on the dark web

    Sex PistolsLou ReedPatti Smith

  9. 19:073 min

    The Dark Web Red Room Pitch

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    Tim describes researching the dark web for a planned live episode, explaining what a 'red room' supposedly is (paying Bitcoin to watch someone tortured) and pitching doing a comedic live show from one, debating the ethics and humor of it.

    8moments
    • 19:10Tim pitched doing the show live from the darknet, specifically from a red room where audiences could pay Bitcoin to watch torture.
    • 19:52The dark web has become corporate now, just like everything else that seemed cool five years ago.
    • 20:12Tim's pitch was to go into a red room and tweet out torture methods as a bit for the show.
    • 20:35The full plan: sign on with Tor browser to the dark web, access a red room, watch someone be tortured to death, but frame it as comedy.
    • 20:49The content would be behind a paywall on the podcast, adding multiple layers of paywalls to access the red room.
    • 21:18Tim provides a description of the red room scene: a man in khaki shirt and jeans while someone scoops flesh out of his femur with a large sharp bowl.
    • 21:51What impressed Tim about the red room operation was its organization and timeliness—the torture started exactly at 8 p.m. Eastern as scheduled.
    • 22:07Tim clarifies they're not making fun of the dying man, just the absurdity of the situation being entertainment.

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  10. 22:304 min

    Matthew David Graham, Lux, and the Darkest Corners of the Dark Web

    #News

    Tim recounts the real case of 22-year-old dark web pedophile Matthew David Graham (Lux), the 'Daisy's Destruction' video, his accomplice Peter Scully in the Philippines, and riffs that Duterte should just kill Scully outright.

    10moments
    • 22:38Commenting on somebody's live murder on the dark web as entertainment.
    • 23:06Tim wonders what watching someone get murdered in a dungeon makes you feel—whether it's therapeutic or cathartic, or if it triggers memories from childhood.
    • 23:33Being a juror on a murder trial sparked Tim's interest in comedy and changed his life.
    • 23:46Tim worked at a morgue, which didn't work out.
    • 24:09The guest asks if Tim is trying to pitch starting a red room operation.
    • 24:22Tim launches into a story about flipping out at a Stamford breakfast buffet because there was no omelet station or waffle maker.
    • 24:41Tim ranted at the hotel staff about the continental breakfast being just gas station pastries with minced onion, tomato, and capers.
    • 25:14New York has spoiled Tim with breakfast quality compared to Austin and San Francisco.
    • 25:40Tim asks the guest where he's eating that he keeps getting sick from sandwiches, and the guest admits it's bodegas.
    • 26:07Matthew David Graham was a 22-year-old Australian pedophile who ran an empire of websites featuring child torture content called Hurt Corps.

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  11. 26:483 min

    Marriott Breakfast Buffet vs. a Sad Connecticut Continental Breakfast

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    A tangent complaining about a bad hotel continental breakfast in Connecticut with no omelet station, contrasted with an idealized Marriott breakfast buffet in Uniondale, Long Island, plus food poisoning stories from bad gyro leftovers.

    5moments
    • 26:49Tim explains why people like him can live on the margin—they're content with simple pleasures like cake delivery in squalor.
    • 27:49Tim brings up Lux and a business partner who created 'Daisy's Destruction,' an extremely disturbing dark web video involving child abuse.
    • 28:23Matthew David Grant, involved in the video, is doing 15 years in Melbourne jail, which Tim says seems like nothing for that type of crime.
    • 29:17Peter Scully, the creator of the worst material on the dark web, is imprisoned in the Philippines, and Tim argues Duterte should execute him without trial.
    • 29:32Tim notes people were paying $10,000 to watch the content and uses it to make a point about depravity hiding in plain sight.

    Peter ScullyDaisy's destructionMatthew David GrantRodrigo DuterteStony Brook

  12. 29:404 min

    Trip to Scotland and What the Hell Haggis Is

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    Tim previews his upcoming flight to Scotland, wonders what there is to do there, and has Ray look up what haggis, shortbread, Cullen skink, and mince and tatties actually are.

    7moments
    • 30:10Tim calls out dark net activity as "real bad" with mock seriousness.
    • 30:38Bitcoin flowing into places run by fucking monsters — the irony of libertarian currency dreams.
    • 30:53They tried to get a dark web expert on the show but couldn't find anyone willing to come.
    • 31:12Image of hackers has shifted from idealistic younger activists to corporate and government-level criminal enterprises.
    • 32:01Original hackers believed in radical transparency and government accountability before being colonized into factions and bought off.
    • 32:27Red Room episode idea fell through, so Tim proposes doing Marriott breakfast buffet live instead as something more depressing.
    • 32:57Tim will arrive at 7 a.m. for the Marriott buffet bit, treating it like serious planning.

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  13. 33:203 min

    Scottish Hygiene, Uncut Penises, and the Elixir Bit

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    Riffing continues on Scottish stereotypes (redheads, kilts, uncut penises, junkies) interspersed with the recurring carnival-elixir-salesman bit and jokes about international fans of the show.

    7moments
    • 33:26The Marriott breakfast buffet in Uniondale is exceptional, with fresh waffles and a full spread.
    • 33:55Tim explains the difference between a continental breakfast and an actual buffet.
    • 34:36He paid $19 for a terrible buffet in San Francisco, Connecticut with no omelet station or waffles.
    • 34:58Detailed breakdown of the Marriott Uniondale buffet: cereal, fruit, yogurt, sausage, bacon, pastries, bagels, made-to-order eggs, and waffles with various toppings.
    • 35:36The Midtown Buffet in New York City is so bad they'd need a spit bag to eat there without getting sick.
    • 35:57Tim has gotten food poisoning twice in four months, including from a gyro place that required a minimum delivery charge.
    • 36:27He ordered a second gyro to meet the delivery minimum, wrapped it, refrigerated it, then microwaved it the next day.

    MarriottMidtown Buffet

  14. 36:403 min

    James Comey, Anthony Weiner's 'Insurance' File, and Elite Cover-Ups

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    Tim speculates about what James Comey really knows, then pivots to Anthony Weiner's laptop 'insurance' file, floating theories about blackmail, sexual deviancy among the powerful, and comparisons to Watergate-era cover-ups.

    4moments
    • 36:43Tim ate cooked tzatziki on a gyro that made him vomit and shit weird for a couple days.
    • 37:15Flying to Scotland tomorrow on a United coach flight where his fat pours into the person next to him.
    • 37:27Tim asks what the point of Scotland is, assuming it's just heroin and drinking.
    • 38:29Someone suggests Tim do a food tour video of Scotland, but he thinks there's nothing to eat except haggis, a sheep stomach.

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  15. 39:204 min

    Jeffrey Epstein's Island and the Franklin Scandal

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    A deeper dive into theories about Jeffrey Epstein's private island, secret elite networks of powerful pedophiles, Huma Abedin's connections, and the historical Franklin child-trafficking scandal cover-up.

    8moments
    • 40:00Tim mocks the concept of a "nutty texture" in haggis, questioning who would want that in food.
    • 40:28The repeated phrase "sheep's pluck" becomes a running bit as they discuss Scottish cuisine.
    • 40:49Cullen skink—a smoked haddock and potato soup—actually sounds appealing compared to haggis.
    • 41:04Tim notes it's fascinating to watch someone who can't read English try to pronounce Scottish food names.
    • 42:06Scottish cooking relies heavily on mincing meat into paste, which Tim suggests indicates poor meat quality.
    • 42:24Tim asks whether Scottish farmers literally starve animals to death rather than slaughtering them properly.
    • 42:45Tim expresses dread about spending three days in Scotland with nothing to do but eat minced meat.
    • 43:07Tim plans to use dating apps in Scotland to find junkies, believing they'll like him there.

    ScotlandCullen skink

  16. 43:204 min

    Riffing on Getting Kicked Out of the Studio (Chuck Zito Callback)

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    Comic bit imagining Chuck Zito interviewing a cannoli/Napoleon/dreidel, jokes about Ray's messy apartment, and returning to speculation about what's really on Weiner's laptop.

    10moments
    • 43:43Tim recalls selling four bottles of elixir while working at a circus and accuses someone of lying about biting Betty Jane during a set.
    • 43:57The idea of defending yourself as a good person while working at a Dust Bowl circus, with bearded ladies vouching for your character.
    • 44:38Discussion of smegma and whether uncircumcised men in hotels need to peel skin back for hygiene.
    • 44:57Tim plans to get the episode up ASAP and mentions coming to Scotland, addressing international fans.
    • 45:16Tim considers it troubling but interesting that international listeners might experience American culture primarily through this podcast.
    • 45:41The current political landscape with Trump and FBI leadership makes for constant podcast material.
    • 46:02Tim theorizes that James Comey knows less than people think but more than he admits—he knows the edges of what he was told or chose not to investigate.
    • 46:26Parallel drawn to Watergate when Nixon had CIA tell the FBI to back off, suggesting this pattern repeats.
    • 46:48Tim believes the CIA shut down the FBI's investigation into the Finders, showing political interference in law enforcement.
    • 47:10Discussion of Weiner's legal status and his insurance document found on his computer.

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  17. 47:308 min

    South by Southwest Recap and Booking Ray a Flight to Buffalo

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    Tim recaps being sick at South by Southwest, then they riff on booking Ray's first-ever flight (possibly to Buffalo or Boston), planning tour destinations, and pitching a live podcast from Doreen Gosh's house.

    10moments
    • 48:00Tim believes there are secret groups connecting wealthy and powerful people, using Jeffrey Epstein's island as an example.
    • 48:51The reality of these elite networks involves people connected to convicted billionaire pedophiles facilitating services.
    • 49:51The Franklin scandal book took 30 years to be published, detailing a cover-up at the highest level.
    • 50:40Anthony Weiner as a sexual deviant would have access to prostitution services catering to congressmen and senators.
    • 51:09That insurance file on Weiner's computer could contain blackmail material implicating other powerful people.
    • 52:06Tim argues there are two sets of rules—rich, well-connected deviants do whatever they want while poor people go to jail.
    • 52:27The studio keeps kicking them out because Chuck Zito is interviewing pastries instead of booking them.
    • 53:31Ray points out Tim's apartment has two large broken garbage cans that don't work properly.
    • 54:04These powerful people are dumb enough to label blackmail material and aren't technologically sophisticated.
    • 55:34Weiner was a popular populist politician who spoke against Bush, but they never let guys like that go too far.

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  18. 55:504 min

    Doreen Gosh: Reenacting Johnny's Kidnapping and 'Getting Ours'

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    They joke about staging a dinner or reenactment with previous guest Doreen Gosh about her son Johnny's kidnapping, and the running joke of needing to cash in ('get ours') on the show's dark subject matter.

    9moments
    • 55:57Tim describes his SXSW experience: he was there as a fan, it was great, but he was sick the whole time.
    • 56:20Ray has never been on a plane, so Tim and the guest joke about taking him on his first flight to Buffalo.
    • 57:06They discuss the problem with Buffalo flights: tiny regional planes that aren't worth the trip.
    • 57:25Alternative destinations emerge: JetBlue shuttles to Logan Airport in Boston, or maybe Florida.
    • 57:56Tim pitches doing a live show in Florida and asks fans there to tweet the show if they want them to come.
    • 58:27Tim explains his job: sell the elixir—which he does—and go above and beyond by testing it in front of people, getting sick.
    • 59:05What if they did a live podcast from Doreen Gosh's house in Des Moines, Iowa?
    • 59:29Tim, Ray, Noreen, and Johnny all together for a show—the guest jokes it would be the end of his life.
    • 59:51Tim's final take: if he's going to die anyway, dying in a funny way with the kernel would be a decent exit.

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  19. 1:00:005 min

    How the Show Went From Quirky Bits to Pedophile Cults and Mind Control

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    Tim reflects on how the show evolved from making fun of rich people and Ponzi schemers into covering political assassinations, human trafficking, and mind control, calling out Lux and the Pizza Hut buffet as recurring dark/absurd touchstones.

    9moments
    • 1:00:22Tim suggests visiting a church or house related to a conspiracy theory subject, acknowledging it would be creepy.
    • 1:00:56Raising awareness becomes the justification for monetizing conspiracy content—book deals and movie opportunities.
    • 1:01:22One documentary episode changed the show's dynamic entirely, pushing it into darker territory.
    • 1:01:36Tim worries that going down certain rabbit holes would be too dark to pull back from.
    • 1:02:37Tim wants to sit down with Noreen Clucas, the subject of their conspiracy coverage, for dinner.
    • 1:02:50The co-host jokingly suggests they reenact the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch with Tim playing the victim.
    • 1:03:46Noreen came on the show trusting them despite knowing little about them, but the hosts admit they could con her.
    • 1:04:18The show evolved from quirky bits about breakfast demands to exploring political assassinations, human trafficking, and pedophile cults.
    • 1:05:17Pizza Hut Lunch Buffet gets listed among the darkest topics explored, suggesting the show has lost perspective on seriousness.

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  20. 1:05:275 min

    Tour Dates: The Brokerage and Central Park Tour Bus Shows

    #Station Break

    Tim announces stand-up dates at The Brokerage on Long Island (March 31-April 1) and describes the Central Park tour bus shows where he riffs on rich people's real estate, the Kennedys, and Allen Dulles.

    9moments
    • 1:06:19Tim announces shows at the Brokerage in Long Island, New York on March 31st and April 1st, with plans to get Ray a guest spot.
    • 1:07:25Tour bus shows returning in May around Central Park, about an hour and 15 minutes, with 50 to 60 person capacity that may sell out quickly.
    • 1:07:50On the tour bus, Tim talks about rich people and high-end real estate while passengers can drink discreetly, making jokes about things fans enjoy from the show.
    • 1:08:42Bus tour covers Alan Dulles, the Knickerbocker Club meeting, Kennedy assassination, and American businesses' cozy relationships with the CIA.
    • 1:09:11Possible special guest appearances on the tour bus, though Ray mentions someone wanting to see Matt instead.
    • 1:09:28Ticket information available on Tim Dillon's website, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, with sales starting in the next couple of weeks.
    • 1:09:48Tour bus experience offers time with Tim as a genuine crazy person and tent preacher who can melt people's minds in an hour.
    • 1:10:16The bus format allows Tim to deconstruct people's worldviews in ways impossible during stand-up comedy on stage.
    • 1:10:32Tour bus provides education about where money is, how it was made, how much money exists in different parts of the country, and what people get away with.

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  21. 1:10:472 min

    Guinea Pig Boy Teaser and ISIS Kidnapping Joke Callback

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    Quick teases for Ray's upcoming 'Guinea Pig' project and a joking callback to Ray being 'kidnapped by ISIS' last episode, plus a bit about a live podcast on an airplane.

    5moments
    • 1:10:48Ray Comps announces Guinea Pig Boy coming soon on the dark net with sponsors.
    • 1:10:59Tim recalls telling people Ray was kidnapped by ISIS last episode and had a good time.
    • 1:11:16Ray mentions getting a handjob during the ISIS kidnapping, then worries about getting blown up.
    • 1:11:31Tim pitches doing a live podcast on a plane for the first time.
    • 1:12:06Tim asks listeners to rate and review the show on iTunes with five stars.