Episode 320 · Post-Ben
Dahmer | The Tim Dillon Show #320 (ft. Yannis Pappas)
with Yannis Pappas
Oct 23, 2022 · 1:06:38 · 403,000 views · 38 segments, 174 moments indexed
Dahmer | The Tim Dillon Show #320 (ft. Yannis Pappas)
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- 1 min
Cold Open: Nashville, Trump 2024, and Country Star Fan Love
#Tim opens live from Nashville with guest Giannis Pappas, riffing on the archetype of the sweet country music star who loves his fans, contrasted with Southern hospitality masking darker undercurrents.
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- Tim opens the show live from Nashville, Tennessee with country music personality Giannis Papas.
- Guest shouts out Trump 2024 to his fans.
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- 2 min
Kanye West Has a Little Bit of a Point
#Tim and Giannis discuss the Dahmer Netflix series alongside Kanye West's antisemitic meltdown, joking that Kanye is too far gone to come back and speculating about when society stops giving him platforms.
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- Kanye West has a little bit of a point — people love him publicly but admit his ideas have merit once the camera turns off.
- Tim on the Dahmer Netflix series: it's huge because the guy takes advantage of people, but it's also kind of a good deal for getting out of Milwaukee.
- Everyone is kink-shaming Dahmer because of a 'CIS hat nightmare,' but his interests evolved from dissecting pigs in his room to people.
- Dahmer's dad is suing Netflix for glorifying his son, which succeeded — the show made Dahmer seem cool and hot.
- People want to dress as Dahmer for Halloween now, which is how much the series succeeded at glamorizing him.
- Amazon stopped selling Dahmer costumes because Simone Biles and others complained, though the complaint misses that it's just a costume at a party.
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Halloween Costumes and the Kanye/Harry Nazi Costume Bit
#Riffing on Amazon pulling Dahmer Halloween costumes after Simone Biles' objections, Tim jokes about Prince Harry showing up to a party dressed as Hitler and how you'd sneak him past security.
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- If Prince Harry showed up to Tim's costume party dressed as Adolf, Tim wouldn't stop the party or ask him to change.
- Tim describes a method for keeping unwanted people out of events: doing a DNA test disguised as something else, or dropping money on the floor to see if they chase it.
- Tim's procedure for vetting attendees includes checking their head for horns.
- 1 min
What Do You Do With Kanye at This Point?
#They joke darkly about Kanye's endless meltdown, wondering aloud what happens to someone this famous who won't stop and won't apologize, with dark jokes about him needing to be "taken out."
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- Tim finds Kanye refusing to apologize and doubling down the most entertaining part of watching his public meltdown
- Kanye's stance is that he won't back down and that if he's killed, another version of him will emerge saying the same thing
- Tim raises the question of what society does with someone at that point—kill him, essentially, because his public meltdown has such reach
- Discussing whether Kanye is perceived as a genuine problem or so extreme he's actually not mobilizing people against anyone
- 2 min
Racism Now Requires Billions of Dollars (Parler Bit)
#Tim theorizes that being publicly racist now requires buying your own media company like Parler, joking that Kanye won't even enjoy it once it's just an echo chamber.
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- Once someone buys Parler and starts voicing opinions on it, nobody cares anymore—you need a billion dollars just to speak publicly now.
- Posting inflammatory content on your own purchased platform becomes an echo chamber with no audience reaction, unlike the attention-seeking that originally drove the behavior.
- Getting wild publicly now requires billions of dollars, whereas people used to be able to do it after a few drinks at the local pub.
- You have to purchase a company with secretaries, executives, and ad sales people just to be racist now—you need a monetization strategy for it.
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Alex Jones's $965 Million Sandy Hook Verdict
#They joke about the symbolic and unpayable nature of the massive Alex Jones defamation judgment, comparing it to giving someone multiple life sentences.
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- Paranoia cost Alex Jones $965 million for Sandy Hook.
- The verdict is symbolic—nobody can actually pay it, like giving someone multiple life sentences.
- Tim objects to symbolic numbers: "I'm not Hindu, this isn't relevant."
- Serial killers now just go on Parler instead of doing the actual work of stalking and killing.
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Serial Killers Evolved Into School Shooters
#Tim floats a theory that mass/school shooters are the modern evolutionary replacement for serial killers, since fame now comes instantly rather than through a long stalking process.
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- Tim's theory: we make school shooters into stars, giving them immediate overnight fame compared to serial killers who need a long process.
- True Crime podcasts love stalking and murder stories, making families relive trauma even when they ask them to stop.
- True Crime podcasters do what Alex Jones does — rev everybody up to solve Cold Cases.
- 2 min
True Crime Podcasts and Women's Secret Death Wish
#Tim rants about true crime podcasts exploiting grieving families for ad revenue, then claims women who listen secretly fantasize about being stalked and killed because they crave being noticed.
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- Serial killers are done; true crime podcasts will have to move to war crimes content for ad sales.
- Tim argues that true crime podcasts appeal to women's fantasies of being stalked, raped, and killed by someone who loves them.
- Women listen to these podcasts night after night hoping someone will chloroform them, but nobody does — they just go to the fridge at 2:30 AM.
- Most women live ignored, which is why these podcasts resonate so much.
- Some women now claim that being chased by cannibals is just what it means to be a woman every day.
- 2 min
Dahmer Halloween Costume and "Bad Ends" in America
#Continuing the Dahmer riff, they discuss the show's disturbing kidnapping scenes, joke about Giannis's Halloween costume, and muse that some people are simply destined for a bad end.
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- Tim compares being a woman around men for 15 minutes to having your liver eaten by a cannibal in Milwaukee.
- The costume Danny is wearing—khakis, Merrell shoes, glasses—is described as arrested development.
- Some people need a very bad end in America, which Tim reflects on while watching Dahmer.
- Tim defines what he means by a bad end: going out one night expecting one outcome and getting a completely different one.
- Being eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer is treated as a rare selection, a small club most Milwaukee residents never join.
- Tim asks if the other person knows anyone who's left the planet in a notably cool or unusual way.
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Does Anyone You Know Get Murdered?
#Tim and Giannis try to recall anyone from their hometowns who was murdered, landing on a vague story about a guy who killed a girl under a bridge that neither of them really knew.
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- Tim tries to recall if he knows anyone who was murdered, remembering a guy who killed a girl under a bridge in his town but neither victim nor perpetrator were people he actually knew.
- Tim notes he can't think of anyone he knows who was eaten, distinguishing between being eaten versus just being killed.
- Tim asks what the other person's personal fear was growing up, noting he's already been shot and wondering what really scared him.
- 2 min
The Midwest Is a Cult (Germanic People and the Holocaust)
#Tim theorizes that the Midwest has an eerie cult-like quality tied to its Germanic population, and jokes that Germans have a latent capacity for atrocity like the Holocaust the same way the Irish have one for alcoholism.
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- The Midwest has a cult-like feel with something evil and underground about it, particularly in cities like Milwaukee and Omaha.
- Germanic people are cerebral and rational but missing a piece of humanity, which Tim connects to their historical capacity for rationalization.
- Tim argues Germans during WWII wanted purpose and were culturally predisposed to commit atrocities the way Irish people are predisposed to alcoholism.
- Cultural impulses are passed through generations: Germans have an inherited tendency toward violence like the Irish have toward drinking.
- 2 min
Kids Dressing as Dahmer for Halloween
#They debate whether it's appropriate for a kid to dress as Jeffrey Dahmer at a Halloween party, with Tim recalling his own childhood costume of being a giant cereal box.
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- Kids' Halloween parties shouldn't feature Jeffrey Dahmer costumes, but at an adult party it's funny.
- Tim dressed as a generic serial killer as a kid—his aunt made a box covered in glued-on Lucky Charms that he ate during trick-or-treating and almost got sick from the glue.
- Now Tim just wears whatever costume his wife buys him on Amazon, like a Bubble Guppy, because having a kid pulls you into family costume territory.
- A single guy showing up to a family Halloween dressed as a baby costume is weirder than showing up as Jeffrey Dahmer.
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How Is a Cannibal Made? Dahmer's Shiny Organs Fetish
#They discuss the psychosexual origins of Dahmer's cannibalism, including the claim he was attracted to the "shininess" of internal organs.
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- Tim watches Dahmer and wonders how someone grows up to become a cannibal, framing it as a psychosexual development problem.
- Producer explains Dahmer was attracted to the shininess of organs, a condition connected to an evolutionary preference for shiny objects.
- Tim learns that organs actually have a gleam to them when removed from the body, though not quite like jewelry.
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Dahmer's Dad's Reaction and Midwestern Monotony as Motive
#They joke about the stereotypically calm Midwestern parental reaction to finding out your son is a cannibal, then theorize that the sheer boredom of Midwest life pushes people toward psychopathic experimentation.
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- Dahmer's father's Midwestern apology—'I love you son'—upon learning about the murders
- Tim contrasts his own father's reaction to cannibalism with the acceptance shown in the Dahmer case
- Midwestern boredom as motive: the monotony of cornfields and routine pushes people toward extreme acts
- Tim jokes about Red Lobster fatigue as catalyst for considering cannibalism as novelty
- Psychopathy is innate, not nurtured—bad environment alone doesn't produce someone willing to cannibalize
- 2 min
How Did Cops Miss Dahmer? (Homophobia and Police Failure)
#They discuss the real-life police failures that let Dahmer continue killing, attributing it to homophobia and Midwestern cops not wanting to get involved in what they perceived as a gay lifestyle situation.
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- Dahmer deliberately chose victims he knew cops would ignore if found naked and bleeding in the street.
- Tim questions what the baseline competency test is for cops, given they found someone barely conscious with a drilled hole in his head and just left.
- Police were reluctant to investigate because Dahmer was a Midwestern white guy and the victims were in areas they dismissed as full of drug addicts.
- Homophobia played a major role—cops didn't want to enter the apartment or deal with what they perceived as gay activity.
- Dahmer was psychopathic and premeditated, carefully selecting victims and studying anatomy to carry out his crimes.
- 3 min
Dahmer as Hollywood Anti-Hero: Walter White, Tony Soprano Comparison
#Tim argues Netflix's Dahmer portrayal makes him a sympathetic, hot anti-hero like Walter White or Tony Soprano, someone viewers don't want to see get caught, framing it as a coming-of-age story.
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- Tim on the Netflix Dahmer series: it's crafted to make hating the protagonist genuinely difficult, which distinguishes it from other prestige shows.
- The show portrays Dahmer as a lonely loner with a mean mother, framing his story as a coming-of-age narrative—albeit one where he occasionally eats someone's kidney.
- Netflix made something hot and fun out of a serial killer story, an approach that contrasts with Hollywood's usual caution about exploitative material.
- Tim notes the industry typically waits longer after tragedies before dramatizing them—like the five or six weeks before the first 9/11 movie.
- Dahmer functions as an anti-hero in the same vein as Batman, Tony Soprano, and Walter White: the viewer roots for him to continue and avoid capture.
- Hollywood essentially made the psychopath's own lie about himself—the version Dahmer constructed after arrest—rather than depicting his actual jail behavior taunting other inmates.
- In reality, Dahmer would mock people in prison by making his food look like organs and making disturbing noises, behavior the show sanitizes.
- Tim's read on Netflix's intent: portraying a young man figuring out who he is in the world, which he interprets as a genuine coming-of-age story.
- Callback: the framing as a traditional coming-of-age narrative resonates as the show's central achievement.
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Sympathetic Framing of Dahmer's Murders (Hotel Room and Dumbbell)
#They break down specific scenes where the show frames Dahmer's murders sympathetically, as accidents rather than premeditated killings, joking that Weinstein could have produced it.
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- Is it okay for an attractive guy to be lifting weights and attractive even though he's maybe killing people?
- There's an element of hotness to hitting someone with a dumbbell because he's taking the narrative back.
- The victim was straight, toxic, and homophobic, so Dahmer becomes an LGBTQ hero subduing homophobia rather than trying to kill him.
- Netflix's version of the show is sympathetic to Dahmer's version of events, possibly like Weinstein producing it on the low.
- Good movies should confuse the audience—make people simultaneously horrified, aroused, and questioning accountability while eating Panera in the suburbs.
- 4 min
Future Generations Will Mock Podcasting Like We Mock Dahmer-Era Media
#Tim speculates that podcasting will someday be looked back on as a cringe historical curiosity full of people pontificating with no facts, then pivots to a bit about a water filter repairman trying to go viral and the accidental nature of internet fame.
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- Media coverage of Dahmer's murders showed sympathy for his explanations of two killings—claiming he didn't remember one and accidentally killed another with a dumbbell.
- Tim imagines future generations looking back at podcasting the way we view Dahmer-era media—years of people talking for hours with no facts, just guessing or making things up.
- Future society might become so fed up with the podcast medium that even the sight of people in headphones at a microphone becomes as repulsive to them as Dahmer's crimes.
- Tim's water guy came and made a TikTok video for his boss, demonstrating how ordinary workers are now building content around their jobs.
- People working at places like Cold Stone Creamery can build millions of followers on TikTok and use that to escape their current situations, like one kid who opened his own ice cream shop.
- The system keeps people chasing content creation by elevating occasional success stories, trapping them on platforms where the CCP can harvest their personal information.
- 1 min
Standard sponsor read for BetterHelp online therapy, emphasizing convenience, matching with a therapist, and switching therapists anytime.
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- Tim shares that therapy exceeded his expectations and made him feel more like himself.
- He urges listeners to start communicating with a counselor and therapist within 48 hours, emphasizing you can switch therapists if it doesn't work out.
- 2 min
Wishing for Nuclear War Because the Ukraine War Is Boring
#Tim jokes about wanting Putin to "just do it" already out of impatience with the drawn-out war, then mocks Zelensky for releasing a book of his wartime speeches mid-war.
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- Tim expresses hope that Putin will detonate a nuclear weapon because the Ukraine war has become boring.
- Tim describes his frustration with the constant discussion—either escalate to nuclear war or lock people up, but stop the endless chatter.
- Zelenskyy is now selling a book of his wartime speeches while the war itself remains unwon.
- Tim questions why speeches merit a book release in the middle of an active war with no clear resolution in sight.
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Editing the War Like The Irishman
#Continuing the war fatigue riff, Tim jokes the Ukraine war has gone on too long like an overly long movie and needs an editor, plus notes on Ukraine's damaged infrastructure.
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- Tim compares the Ukraine war to The Irishman, suggesting it needs an editor because it's going on too long.
- Putin is hitting Ukraine hard with artillery strikes that destroy water and power infrastructure, leaving them without Wi-Fi.
- Tim notes the media claims Iranian drones are being used against Ukraine, but nobody really knows what the actual weapons are.
- The conversation shifts to a revolution happening in Iran that was dragging on.
- 3 min
Discussion of the death of a woman in Iran after removing her hijab, with the producer awkwardly pulling up graphic images mid-podcast, comparing her to Iran's George Floyd and debating the "she fell" police explanation.
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- Tim explains the hijab rule in Iran versus the West: taking it off is forbidden there, putting it on is celebrated here.
- Producer interrupts with a hospital photo of Mahsa Amini, killing the comedy vibe.
- Tim complains about the mood shift while trying to do a podcast and sell underwear for fat people.
- Clarifying Amini's death: she collapsed at a police station and fell into a coma, now she's become Iran's George Floyd.
- One side says she fell, the other side doesn't think so—Tim compares it to the debate around George Floyd's death.
- Eyewitnesses claim Amini was severely beaten by police, which Tim suspects is probably true, though he leaves room for the authorities' fall story.
- Tim concludes: Iran probably wasn't lenient with a woman removing her hijab, so he suspects she was beaten to death.
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- 2 min
Pitching a Nike Hijab Ad ("Think About It")
#Tim riffs on Nike making an exploitative ad campaign around the Iran hijab protests, imagining a "Think About It" tennis commercial that ends with the woman deciding to keep the hijab on.
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- Nike should make a follow-up commercial about wearing the hijab in Iran, timed perfectly like the six months after 9/11.
- Tim pitches Nike's new slogan: "Think About It" — urging women considering removing their hijab to reconsider.
- The commercial would show a woman putting on the hijab to play tennis, then considering taking it off.
- As she's about to remove it, she thinks about her mother, grandmother, and the traditions and rules that need to stay in place.
- 2 min
Cultural Relativism, Ethnocentrism, and Not Judging Other Countries
#Tim jokes about being accused of ethnocentrism when discussing foreign cultural practices, comparing it absurdly to female genital mutilation in sub-Saharan Africa and Ukraine's suppressed history of far-right elements.
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- Tim admits discussing other cultures' practices makes him sound insensitive.
- When people say "it's not my culture," Tim says he doesn't tell them what to do because it's not his place.
- He won't lecture sub-Saharan Africa about their practices, unlike Anthony Bourdain who would taste anything put in front of him.
- Tim calls ethnocentrism exactly what it is—assuming you can judge what's right or wrong in another culture.
- Whatever makes people happy; the real issue is the U.S. defense industry needing to unload weapons somewhere.
- Sexual orientation was basically illegal in Ukraine until recently, yet now it's the most gay-friendly country—propaganda at work.
- Russia probably has Nazis too, but Ukraine had massive Nazi issues with videos they pulled down.
- 2 min
Skeptical discussion of the claim that Russian soldiers are issued Viagra to rape Ukrainians, broadening into a point that atrocities happen on both sides of any war.
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- Tim on the Viagra-armed Russian soldiers claim: feels fake and propagandistic enough that he'd sue if he were Viagra.
- Atrocities happen on both sides in war; people don't understand that the whole thing is ugly, not just one side being uncivilized.
- Tim argues the U.S. needs to broker a deal to get Ukraine to the negotiation table rather than keeping them fighting indefinitely.
- American interest in prolonging the conflict: the U.S. likes having weapons in the region and enjoys arms sales.
- Tim explains why Putin won't back down: he can't return home having wasted resources and disgraced the country, or his own people will kill him.
- Without negotiation, Putin will level Ukraine for an ugly technical victory, leaving insurgency and global resentment.
- A deal is the only way to avoid the worst-case scenario of complete destruction and years of conflict.
- 4 min
Zelensky the Fame Whore and the Path to World War Three
#Tim theorizes Zelensky secretly loves the global spotlight like a celebrity, then extends the doom scenario to China invading Taiwan and Putin's nuclear leverage possibly sparking WWIII.
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- Zelensky as a fame whore obsessed with Hollywood celebrities and being in the limelight.
- China is definitely going into Taiwan and the question becomes what the U.S. has to do about it.
- Without NATO, Ukraine and Georgia would already be leveled.
- Putin's motivations don't matter—he has the nukes and can dictate terms with the threat of nuclear retaliation.
- An autocrat with nuclear capability was always going to inevitably hijack the world this way.
- The only thing that will stop World War Three is a celebrity compilation video of Hollywood actors telling Putin to stop.
- Tim imagines the video as a parade of working actors on set each saying "stop it, Mr. Putin"—Amy Schumer, Sean Penn, Jennifer Garner, Zendaya.
- Kenan Thompson, who's been doing it forever since Good Burger, doesn't worry about Ukraine—he's just driving around Beverly Hills happy.
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- 1 min
Quick transition line about needing to run errands and pick up Halloween treats before diving into the DoorDash ad read.
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- Tim transitions to discussing DoorDash and Halloween delivery logistics
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Sponsor read for DoorDash promoting Halloween candy and party supply delivery with a 50% off promo code.
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- Tim's pitch: DoorDash lets you sit on your fat ass and have everything delivered instead of leaving your house.
- Listeners get 50% off up to twenty dollars and zero delivery fees with code Tim Dillon.
- 1 min
Sponsor read for MeUndies underwear, describing the soft micro modal fabric and a discount code, with a joke about a Halloween-themed script he refuses to read.
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- Tim refuses to read the "Undies guy" Halloween callback, calling it dumb.
- 20% off with code Tim, and he emphasizes how soft the fabric actually is.
- The micro modal fabric is so soft it's like wearing skin.
- He pushes the deal: 20% off first order, free shipping, go to meundies.com/Tim.
- 3 min
Netflix's Pendulum Swing Back to Real Stories
#Tim argues Netflix is moving away from "woke" content back toward glorifying real, gritty stories like Dahmer, framing it as a cultural pendulum swing people are hungry for.
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- Netflix is swinging back from woke content toward stories like Dahmer, which Tim says is what people actually want
- Jeffrey Dahmer represents a protagonist audiences can identify with compared to manufactured entertainment
- Netflix initially categorized Dahmer as LGBTQ content, which upset the community
- Tim argues Dahmer should stay under LGBTQ because it's the first good thing in that category in recent memory
- Billy Eichner's film and game show are compared unfavorably to Dahmer as entertainment
- Jeffrey Dahmer is an American institution and real story from the heartland, unlike forgettable recent projects
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Billy Eichner's Bros vs. Dahmer as LGBTQ Content
#Tim argues Dahmer is actually the better recent LGBTQ story compared to Billy Eichner's Bros, mocking Eichner as an unlikable, unfunny game show host.
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- Tim argues gay serial killers shouldn't be excluded from true-crime storytelling the way straight ones aren't.
- The current way of thinking about culture — overtly political, dry, box-checking, and categorical — is folding in on itself and people are tired of it.
- Tim predicts people are moving away from rigid frameworks and back into moral gray areas.
- When pressed on why Dahmer qualifies as gray, Tim points out he buried people and ate them, cutting through the framing.
- 1 min
Tony Soprano Comparison Returns
#Brief continuation comparing liking Dahmer to liking Tony Soprano despite both being murderers.
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- Tim asks if the listener liked Tony Soprano, noting that Tony murdered people
- 3 min
We Like People in Control of Their Own Story
#Tim philosophizes that society is drawn to monstrous figures like Dahmer because they represent control over their own narrative, and that fear/horror serves a societal function like a distant, safe form of morality.
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- We like anyone who's in control of their own story — he took the reins.
- Tim argues we don't actually want a world without Jeffrey Dahmer because monsters keep us in line.
- There's something about the randomness of evil that feels necessary — we love horror movies and being scared.
- Fear is fashion, just like morality has become fashion — it's a safe thing to say at a distance.
- No one wants to be eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer, but people do want to live in a world where it's possible.
- According to Dahmer himself, he was not a racist and didn't choose victims based on race.
- Tim hopes people wear Dahmer costumes for Halloween and tells everyone to stand up for their rights.
- 2 min
Halloween Costume Safety Warning and Iran/Persia Wrap-up
#Tim jokingly advises only wearing a Dahmer costume at an all-white party, then wraps up the Iran discussion by noting Persians prefer to be called Persian.
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- Tim's Halloween safety warning: if you're dressing as Jeffrey Dahmer, make sure the party is entirely white.
- He didn't dress up before marriage and grew up throwing eggs instead of trick-or-treating in the suburbs.
- Tim credits himself and the show for figuring out that Iranians prefer to be called Persians.
- The shampoo industry should capitalize on supporting the Persian revolution as a marketing opportunity.
- Companies pitch causes the same way producers pick shows, looking for trendy movements to promote.
- Tim catalogs one-legged Palestinian athletes and marginalized figures that corporations cycle through for advocacy.
- Emma Gonzalez, Elian Gonzalez, and Elliott Page all come and go as corporate causes, rotating in and out of the public consciousness.
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Brands Picking Causes Like Picking Shows / Joan of Arc Was Trans
#Tim riffs on corporations opportunistically adopting causes and mascots (Malala, Emma Gonzalez, Elliot Page), then jokes about a controversy claiming Joan of Arc was trans.
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- Tim asks if someone would be perfect casting as Joan of Arc regardless of gender identity.
- Movement emerged claiming Joan of Arc was trans, using he/him pronouns for the historical figure.
- The claim: people don't want Joan of Arc discussed as a woman because she was actually trans.
- Tim jokes about historical figures being retroactively rewritten—Joan of Arc was also Abraham Lincoln who was gay and a vampire killer.
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Trump as Twitter's Frankenstein and the End of an Era
#Wrapping the news talk, they joke about Giannis's conservative app presence (Parler, Truth Social, OnlyFans), Kanye's pending Parler purchase, and Trump being the Frankenstein monster that gave Twitter its cultural weight.
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- Conservative media landscape apps like Parlor, True Social, and OnlyFans all competing and eating each other
- Tim speculates on what happens when Kanye buys Parlor and whether executives are actually excited about the deal
- The idea of Kanye owning Parlor is sexier to everyone than the actual execution would be
- Musk bought Twitter thinking he'd save it, but Twitter already had its moment and is dying like everything else
- Twitter was actually dying before Trump, but Trump brought it back and created the entire online universe around his posts
- Once Trump left Twitter, the moment was over for good—even if he returns, Twitter no longer carries the social weight it used to
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Trump's Indestructibility and Dahmer's Fame Comparison Closer
#Tim closes the news arc arguing Trump's fans want the world to end and are ready for the fight, then ties back to Dahmer, saying America turns anyone "wild" enough into a star.
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- Hollywood created Trump, the Frankenstein of American culture, yet hates him.
- His supporters don't care about documents or scandals because many want the world to end anyway.
- Trump understands America: he knows the media will cover him as long as he's wild and present.
- America makes stars out of anyone who does something extreme, even serial killers like Dahmer.
- You can't avoid glorifying someone like Dahmer no matter what you do—it's inevitable given what we're interested in.
- The difference between Dahmer and a regular murderer is the grind—and Netflix.
- 1 min
Giannis Pappas plugs his website and upcoming Austin and Detroit tour dates, they mention swimming in a lake, and sign off thanking the audience.
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- Giannisepapiscomedy.com is where to get tickets for his upcoming shows.
- He plans to swim in the lake and deliberately get a bacterial infection.