Episode 158 · The Porch Era

158 - Leaving Hell

Jul 28, 2019 · 1:26:30 · 181,000 views · 32 segments, 198 moments indexed

Ray Kump joins Tim this week in his final days in New York. Tim rants on people taking their food to go, his insane friends, America crumbling, and the soullessness of LA.

Tonight's Schedule32 segments · 198 moments
  1. 1 min

    Cold Open / Music Intro

    #Station Break

    Opening music and applause before any talk begins.

    1moment
    • Tim Dillon Show intro begins
  2. 3 min

    Renaming the Show and the Artist Sketch Controversy

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    Tim announces the show is changing from Tim Dillon's Going to Hell to The Tim Dillon Show, discusses a fan art contest for new podcast art, and gets accused online of ripping off artists for not compensating them or giving free tickets.

    8moments
    • Tim announces the show is being renamed from Tim Dillon's Going to Hell to The Tim Dillon Show.
    • Tim got accused of exploiting artists after the contest announcement.
    • Tim explains that a strong portfolio doesn't guarantee good submission work—he can still bomb at comedy shows despite his track record.
    • If Tim uses a submitted sketch, he'll pay the artist; if he doesn't use it, no compensation.
    • Some submissions included crude stick figures, like one depicting Tim saying Epstein did 9/11.
    • Tim wants a loyal, mercenary fanbase willing to stick around long-term, not just people expecting free tickets.
    • Tim's offer: submit art, and if used, receive several hundred to five hundred dollars.
    • Tim argues that if someone has been exploited by even one podcast, it's probably their own fault.

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  3. 1 min

    Wanting a Mercenary Fanbase, Not the Proud Boys

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    Tim jokes about wanting a loyal, mercenary fanbase like a low-level watchlist group, distinguishing it from actual extremist organizations.

    2moments
    • Tim plans to sell shirts with quotes he said rather than just his icon or brand.
    • Tim doesn't want a fanbase that shows up to pitch themselves or name-drop to get on the show.
  4. 1 min

    Introducing Ray, Former Morgue Photographer

    #Guest

    Tim introduces returning guest Ray and jokes about wanting to go on Ray's show to discuss fingerprinting corpses at a Long Island morgue.

    4moments
    • Tim refuses to fly to California for a show, calling it ridiculous.
    • Tim jokes that Ray could become so controversial YouTube throws him off like Alex Jones, based on his morgue stories.
    • Ray clarifies the fingerprint procedure was respectful and that they didn't abuse the bodies.
    • Tim introduces Ray, who worked on the show for two and a half years.

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  5. 3 min

    Morgue Stories: Bolt Cutters, Milking Intestines, and the Christmas Baby

    #Guest

    Ray recounts grim and absurd stories from his time working at a Long Island morgue, including cutting open a rib cage with bolt cutters, milking intestines, and a frozen baby found in a garbage bag that had to thaw before being processed on Christmas.

    7moments
    • Tim's guest was a photographer at a Long Island morgue and expanded into other duties
    • Guest cut open a rib cage with bolt cutters, one of his unofficial tasks
    • Tim compares the guest's unofficial morgue work to a basketball player playing all positions
    • Guest moved from the morgue to working at a mosquito lab
    • Guest describes seeing MS-13 victims with machete wounds at the morgue
    • Baby found frozen in a garbage bag on Christmas Eve at the morgue
    • Tim credits these morgue stories as the reason he and the guest became friends

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  6. 1 min

    The Vegan Taco Bell Lady and the Bagel Guy

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    Tim tells the story of a morbidly obese vegan woman screaming at a Taco Bell cashier about sour cream, tying it to the viral "bagel guy" video as an example of Long Island's unique brand of public meltdown.

    5moments
    • Morbidly obese woman with purple hair screaming at Taco Bell cashier about accidentally eating sour cream while being vegan for almost a year.
    • Tim tells the vegan woman that the restaurant doesn't care, then pivots to Long Island's ubiquitous bagel guy archetype.
    • Tim recalls being in a Hicksville post office a decade ago where an old woman berated the clerk over a missing butter package.
    • Tim intervened by telling the abusive woman she'd get cancer, yelling at her in public.
    • Tim observes that loud, aggressive people in public spaces usually need a physical counterpart to actually get beaten up.

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  7. 4 min

    Ogling the Lifeguard at the Beach Club

    #Guest

    Tim recounts visiting a Long Island beach club with Ray and getting caught staring at an attractive young male lifeguard, riffing on double standards around hot men getting ogled versus women.

    11moments
    • Tim recalls being an overweight chain-smoking pool lifeguard at a beach club in Long Island.
    • People didn't recognize him when he shot a Comedy Central pilot at the same beach club years later.
    • Beach club membership costs eight grand a year for access to a pool and private beach.
    • Tim admits he was gawking at an 18-year-old lifeguard, prompting Scott to call it embarrassing.
    • Tim argues that if you're hot, you can't control the attention you receive.
    • Discussion of attraction and how hot men draw women and gay men alike.
    • Tim jokes about going undercover as straight to befriend a young man and offer life wisdom.
    • The lifeguard gave Tim a weird look because he was staring so obviously without sunglasses.
    • Tim stared at the lifeguard's kidney area from behind for five minutes before he turned around.
    • Scott compares how Tim looks at men versus how he should look at women — like staring at the sun.
    • Tim admits he was looking too much and realizes he went overboard with the staring.
  8. 3 min

    Men Deserve to Be Ogled Too, and Gay Guys Are Direct

    #Guest

    Continuing the ogling bit, Tim argues men should experience being objectified, riffs on comedy tropes about gay men hitting on straight comedians, and jokes about halitosis and masculinity under attack.

    8moments
    • Hot guys deserve to be ogled the way women are, it's only fair.
    • Tim thinks men need to experience being ogled by someone like an ogre to understand what women deal with.
    • Young comedians do the bit about gay guys being direct hitters on men at bars.
    • The gay guy hitting-on-men comedy routine usually assumes a specific type of wealthy, in-shape gay man.
    • Tim offers his version: a broke guy with bad breath approaching someone at a bar smelling like nachos.
    • Traditional masculinity is under attack in the country, which is why guys like Tim aren't respected.
    • In the 1970s, Brian Dennehy was a sex symbol who got women wet, not pretty boys like Zac Efron.
    • Tim claims he's actually in the Golden Age of his life and career right now.

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  9. 2 min

    Brian Dennehy Was a Sex Symbol, and Embracing His Own Unconventional Look

    #Guest

    Tim claims Brian Dennehy was a 1970s sex symbol, contrasts himself with smooth Italian guys who wear cologne, and argues he's found his own '"golden age"' by being unconventionally attractive.

    6moments
    • Tim contrasts his own dirty, unfashionable masculinity with the more ostentatious style of Italian men wearing Brut cologne to clubs.
    • In Brooklyn, people gravitate toward Tim because they're so unused to seeing anyone who isn't traditionally masculine.
    • Tim argues that people who are optimistic about the future are mentally ill, though he clarifies that being happy himself doesn't require optimism.
    • He's making synthesizer music now, admitting that no one asked for it but he's putting it out into the world anyway.
    • Without conventional attractiveness, you have to work your way to being sexy by developing personality and earning it.
    • Tim offers an assessment of his own physical attributes, concluding he's got a decent package and knows how to use it.
  10. 4 min

    Dinner at Jimmy Hays and the Steak Doggie Bag Fight

    #Guest

    Tim describes a dinner at his favorite Long Island steakhouse, Jimmy Hays, that ends in an argument with his friend Scott over whether to take home three leftover pieces of Chateaubriand.

    8moments
    • Jimmy Hayes steakhouse on Long Island feels racist, which is what a steakhouse should feel like.
    • During dinner with Scott and his kids, the children start screaming around dessert and Tim wants to leave immediately.
    • Scott pushes Tim to take home three small pieces of leftover Chateaubriand in a doggie bag.
    • Tim accuses Scott of having a weird poverty mentality, panicked that there won't be more steak.
    • Taking home leftovers in a doggie bag looks trashy and signals you're being treated like a dog.
    • People at restaurants sometimes take absurdly small portions home in containers like a tablespoon of mac and cheese.
    • At fancy restaurants, for some people it's just like eating at a diner—they're there every day with no sense of occasion.
    • Tim and his friend saved up for a year, turning in cans and jars of change, to afford a nice dinner.

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  11. 7 min

    Long Island's Poverty Mentality and Entitlement to Inheritance

    #Guest

    Riffing on the doggie bag fight, Tim and Ray dig into Long Island culture: people clinging to leftovers out of a scarcity mindset, waiting for parents to die for a house, and a broader entitlement culture built on inherited houses rather than earned success.

    13moments
    • Tim describes eating baked beans and sauerkraut in a wooden bowl during his poorest days in Manhattan.
    • He tried to claim victim status after Sandy, pretending he'd lost everything while actually living in Manhattan.
    • Living on the fifth floor of a tenement with no door, only a curtain, bedbugs, and rats—but he loved it at 25 doing stand-up.
    • During Sandy, Tim had no power for a week and was upset the frozen yogurt place wouldn't rotate flavors, while his Manhattan neighborhood had full electricity.
    • FEMA gave him $1,100 instead of the usual $35,000 because they smelled fraud in his Sandy claim.
    • Long Island County allegedly set up fake FEMA emergency centers to collect overtime money and inflate reimbursements from the state.
    • Long Island concentrates American selfishness and dishonesty in a way that's hard to believe unless you've lived there.
    • After Sandy, Long Islanders spent the next seven years using the disaster as an excuse for everything.
    • Grown adults on Long Island have their own houses but their retirement plan is waiting for their parents to die.
    • Someone working retail or as a medical biller feels entitled to own a house just because they'll eventually inherit from their parents.
    • These Long Island people openly discuss waiting for their parents to die—it's not hidden, people laugh at jokes about it because they recognize it.
    • The grimy mentality of clinging to every bit of food at dinner, wrapping up leftovers from Texas Roadhouse, despite having financial security.
    • Nobody on Long Island is actually in need, yet they walk out of restaurants with leftovers as if there won't be more food next week.

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  12. 6 min

    Giving Up the New York Apartment

    #Guest

    Tim describes his depressing, run-down New York apartment that he's finally giving up as he moves to LA, and he and Ray discuss his attraction to chaotic, low-level hustler friends and why that appeal is fading as he realizes it's mostly about avoiding personal growth.

    9moments
    • Tim decided to give up his New York apartment after moving to LA, realizing he won't actually come back to the city much.
    • The apartment itself is depressing—old radiator pipes, broken-down school doors, radiators from before the Depression.
    • He admires low-level hustlers and criminals partly because he romanticizes old New York street culture and wants to see it cleaned of gentrifying idiots.
    • After talking to a friend, Tim realized that while these chaotic people are funny and never boring, they eventually do become boring because they never actually evolve.
    • These people use their crazy lives and wild characters as an excuse to never account for their own selfish behavior and refusal to grow.
    • People in the entertainment industry now claim to resist convention and be the good guys, but they're doing the exact same things as the people they claim to hate.
    • Everyone in Congress thanked Robert Mueller for serving in Vietnam, but he just torched villages—the same congressmen who were supposedly against Vietnam.
    • Mueller served one year in Vietnam, told his wife he wanted to stay longer, then got transferred to a desk job because he didn't want to give up combat killing.
    • Mueller's actual quote: he didn't enjoy the Marine Corps without combat, revealing he just liked having his boot on somebody's neck.

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  13. 4 min

    Wix Website Ad and the Coming Apocalypse Branding

    #SponsorWix

    A Wix sponsor read that drifts into an apocalyptic riff about needing a well-defined personal brand even amid societal collapse and civil unrest.

    5moments
    • Tim argues that having a website remains crucial even as civil unrest, climate disaster, and government collapse seem imminent.
    • A technocratic takeover could turn all online platforms into advertisements where everyone sells things to each other.
    • Wix offers drag-and-drop templates and AI design tools that work even for people who aren't bright.
    • Maintaining a strong personal brand through the apocalypse is essential—people need to know what you are in an end-time scenario.
    • Tim insists on brand clarity: when small groups fight over resources, being well-defined helps people understand what they're getting.

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  14. 3 min

    Robert Mueller's Testimony and the FBI's Corruption

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    Tim and Ray react to Robert Mueller's congressional testimony, joking about his Vietnam service and Marine Corps quote, and discussing the FBI's history of corruption and renditions.

    6moments
    • Mueller took the FBI director job the week before 9/11 and retired a few months after the Boston bombing—a neat bookend to his tenure.
    • Tim argues Mueller seems to have done a relatively professional job, but that misses the point: the FBI is one of the most corrupt organizations he's ever seen.
    • The Mueller investigation movie is over; we're not watching it anymore, just the blue checkmarks still obsessing over it on Twitter.
    • Tim explains why obstruction charges against Trump don't work when you can't prove direct conspiracy with Russia in the underlying case.
    • Mueller preserved evidence for after Trump leaves office because the Justice Department says you can't charge a sitting president, betting that Trump dies in office before facing indictment.
    • Whether or not Mueller intentionally reached his conclusions, the way he acted suggests Trump did a lot wrong—and if it's not obstruction of justice, it might as well be.

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  15. 2 min

    Democrats Losing the Narrative on Open Borders

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    Tim argues Democrats are politically vulnerable for framing all migration as asylum-seeking and failing to run on concrete issues like healthcare, while praising Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders for not being tied to Epstein.

    8moments
    • Democrats have lost the narrative on open borders and don't understand how they're appearing to the other side
    • Democrats have real issues to run on—an unfulfilled president, a broken health care system—but keep centering immigration policy
    • If Democrats continue arguing for open borders and health care for illegal immigrants, they'll lose even more ground
    • Treating all migration as asylum seeking doesn't work when the standard is fleeing violent places—that covers billions of people worldwide
    • Tim acknowledges those countries are genuinely messed up but argues the logic still doesn't hold
    • If someone could explain how to unwind the military-industrial complex, he'd listen and might support candidates like Tulsi or Bernie
    • Bernie's appeal: he's the only major politician not connected to Jeffrey Epstein or that whole party circuit
    • Epstein's disappearance left an opening—like a drug kingpin's turf being up for grabs among other elite pedophiles

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  16. 2 min

    Epstein's Client List and the Swift Boat Comparison

    #Guest

    Discussion turns to who might be exposed in the Epstein scandal, joking that too many boldface names could paradoxically make people dismiss the story, and comparing media dynamics to the false equivalence used against John Kerry's war record.

    4moments
    • Tim predicts the Epstein client list will become a big scandal with many boldface names.
    • Media focus on Trump and Clinton creates the appearance of a wash job between parties.
    • Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign used by Republicans as political weaponization, not an actual wash.
    • Tim calls the Swift Boat Veterans strategy one of the greatest political stunts ever executed.

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  17. 3 min

    The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth Story Explained

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    Tim explains in detail how Karl Rove orchestrated the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth smear campaign against John Kerry, and how he once fell for it as a young conservative-leaning listener.

    7moments
    • John Kerry's 2004 campaign strategy: run on his Vietnam War service to counter Bush's popularity post-9/11.
    • Karl Rove organizes Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, claiming they served with Kerry and attacking his war record.
    • Swift Boat Veterans' accusations: Kerry threw a grenade at South Vietnamese troops, ran away, was actually working for the Viet Cong.
    • Tim admits he fell for the Swift Boat attack despite knowing nothing about it because liberal annoyingness turned him off.
    • Critics of Bush never had credible voices—always deli owners or public school teachers, never people Tim respected.
    • Tim mentions Fox News coverage and guests like Rust Paper and Nick Bryan, both of whom claim nothing can reach the level of the Epstein story.
    • Julie K Brown at the Miami Herald eventually breaks the Epstein story wide open, proving real journalism still exists.

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  18. 2 min

    Julie K. Brown Breaks the Epstein Story Wide Open

    #Guest

    Discussion of how Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown cracked open the Epstein story after years of the topic being untouchable, and how past guests Nick Bryant and Liz Crokin had covered pieces of it.

    4moments
    • Tim notes the media has a pattern of gradually pivoting from protecting a story to attacking it once the dam breaks.
    • He dismisses the obsession with temple decorations and symbolism when the core crime is child abuse.
    • Tim argues that adding Satanism conspiracy elements to real criminal cases causes people to reject the entire narrative.
    • The idea of a secret society of ruling-class pedophiles is so destabilizing that it breaks down how people process the information.

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  19. 2 min

    Elite Pedophile Rings and Ritual Abuse Rabbit Holes

    #Guest

    Tim and Ray discuss the disturbing rabbit hole of researching elite pedophilia, ritual abuse claims, MKUltra, and how the depravity of the material makes it hard to believe yet hard to dismiss.

    7moments
    • Tim describes the rabbit hole of reading about MKULTRA, mind control, and ritual abuse as opening a door into literal hell.
    • Realizing that enough of the conspiracy claims are actually true shifts the calculus on dismissing them entirely.
    • Tim recalls a previous guest's observation that they might not be successful because they're not pedophiles.
    • Tim wouldn't trade places with a pedophile, but acknowledges he'd give up something for their level of success.
    • Epstein's arrest pinned the crimes on low-level figures—an irrelevant senator or congressman—rather than the people actually going to the island.
    • The fall guy is someone who didn't even make it to the island, someone who prematurely ejaculated on a raft.
    • If Trump and Clinton actually abused children on an island together, that would be the real story, but the evidence stays obscured.

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  20. 3 min

    Will Epstein Actually Take the Fall?

    #Guest

    Speculation about whether powerful names like Clinton will actually be implicated, or whether a low-level scapegoat congressman gets sacrificed while Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell stay protected.

    6moments
    • Tim explains Epstein can't flip or get killed because he'd spend his life in solitary confinement either way.
    • Ghislaine Maxwell was the recruiter for Epstein's operation.
    • Tim argues that wealthy people don't need human trafficking money, so why wouldn't they take it as a slush fund.
    • Acosta, as Secretary of Labor, was directly quoted saying Epstein belonged to intelligence and shouldn't be pushed on.
    • When your defense is that you thought Epstein was running a classified intelligence operation involving child abuse to gather secrets about Cuba, the problem isn't solved.
    • The internet and modern technology have made it harder for people like Epstein to operate for decades undetected.

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  21. 2 min

    Alex Acosta and the 'He Belonged to Intelligence' Excuse

    #Guest

    Tim and Ray dissect Alex Acosta's admission that he was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence,' and speculate the CIA used Epstein's blackmail network for their own purposes.

    5moments
    • Agencies engage in sexual blackmail and would leverage someone running a network connected to powerful people.
    • The FBI and similar organizations have good people in them, defined as being against child abuse but not necessarily against wrongful imprisonment.
    • Abu Ghraib soldiers condemning Epstein is hypocritical when they were committing abuse themselves.
    • Seymour Hersh reported that the military had videotapes of children being raped by defense contractors and military members, and was paranoid about them getting out.
    • Tim expresses concern that if any of these allegations are true, America has the seeds of its own destruction.

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  22. 1 min

    Seymour Hersh, Abu Ghraib Tapes, and the Monarch Program

    #Guest

    Reference to Seymour Hersh's claims about videotapes of children being abused by military/defense contractors at Abu Ghraib, and dark speculation about MKUltra-style child abuse programs creating assassins.

    2moments
    • Tim jokes about the government hiring a pedophile to interrogate prisoners, claiming he'd say 'you people are amateurs' and explain what needs to be done
    • The Monarch Program was real and massive, according to Tim, who questions how many times a kid needs to be abused before becoming an assassin

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  23. 2 min

    Dreaming of Montana and Escaping New York

    #Guest

    Tim and Ray fantasize about leaving cramped city life for Montana, Louisiana, or Michigan to swing an axe, go fishing, and shoot shotguns, while joking about becoming a trucker before AI takes those jobs.

    9moments
    • Tim is glad he's leaving New York and questions what people want from the city.
    • Wanting to live somewhere he can swing an axe, go fishing, and shoot a shotgun in the air for no reason — maybe Montana.
    • Montana is being co-opted by the rich, so that plan might not work out.
    • His guest is tied to Brooklyn for media work but getting into color work to potentially improve his quality of life in a couple years.
    • Tim congratulates his roommate on making it to the semi-finals of something, winning a thousand dollars.
    • Tim asks if this is New York as a dream, noting there's nothing here and questioning why the city still exists.
    • Comparing New York to living somewhere with a lake where you can kayak and fish, like Michigan.
    • Tim suggests becoming a trucker as an alternative, though automation is eliminating those jobs.
    • If a photo showed the guest as a trucker losing his job, America would want him replaced with AI and denied universal basic income.

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  24. 2 min

    What It Costs to Live Comfortably in New York

    #Guest

    A breakdown of the real money needed to live well in New York, contrasted with the fading old bohemian Lower East Side, and a segue into mocking modern Brooklyn 'comedians' who are really failed theater kids.

    6moments
    • Tim breaks down the money needed to live comfortably in New York—real money, several hundred thousand, or at minimum 150k for a nicer place.
    • The fantasy New York life: beach house on Long Island, nice Tribeca apartment, eating the best food, the old St. Marks scene before the city's financial crisis ended it all.
    • Comedy in New York now is embarrassing and exhausting—every third person in Brooklyn is a comedian, and they're all terrible.
    • These new comedians are all grown-up theater kids, not genuine funny people—there's zero actual funny person in their entire friend group.
    • Theater kid energy is ultra-supportive and celebratory, the opposite of what real comedy and real theater used to be.
    • High school suburban theater program energy is what dominates now—an ultra-supportive circle jerk that the industry keeps feeding into.

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  25. 3 min

    Theater Kid Energy Ruined Comedy

    #Guest

    Tim argues modern comedy culture has become an ultra-supportive circle-jerk driven by insecure theater-kid types, contrasted with the old cutthroat comedy scene, and shares an anecdote about a fan calling a comedy club 'kind of sad.'

    7moments
    • Comedy industry is full of people with no confidence who shouldn't have any, yet they've been glorified as losers.
    • Tim discusses a comic who hosts a game show on Netflix and the pointlessness of that trajectory.
    • Tim loves making people laugh but views the broader comedy culture as disgusting and terrible.
    • A Patreon subscriber gave Tim a tour of a city and took him to a major comedy club.
    • The comedy club fan looked around and said "it's kind of sad in there."
    • Many Midwest and Northeast comedy clubs look like they're from the 80s, with hosts and feature acts doing outdated material.
    • The host is often a woman in her late thirties thinking about moving to New York, which Tim sees as part of a broken world.

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  26. 5 min

    The Decline of Legacy Comedy Clubs vs. YouTubers

    #Guest

    Tim laments that few comedians today matter compared to greats like Carlin and Pryor, while defending YouTube creators like Team 10 as at least entertaining, and predicts comedy's future is digital, not festivals and late-night sets.

    9moments
    • Tim on the handful of genuinely talented people doing anything relevant in comedy right now
    • Everything feels visceral and chaotic in this society, and we're in an era where gatekeepers still have diminishing relevance
    • Comedy had a boom in the 80s, but like jazz, it follows a trajectory that goes up and down
    • The future of entertainment will be predominantly digital, with festivals and late-night TV paradigms no longer viable
    • Stilted, scripted, predictable formulaic jokes won't work anymore—that's why people are into podcasts instead
    • Art has conformed to this pattern where people now want to be the person doing it, but not everyone is meant for it
    • Advice for comedy: stay away from people who support you without a reason, because unfunny people tend to stick together
    • Tim watching YouTube videos about prison culture and how the Mafia now goes on YouTube and podcasts instead of staying together
    • Eighty percent of guys in prisons are rats and informants now, and guards accept it as a new reality

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  27. 4 min

    Living in the Ruins: Bad Baby, Trump, and 'the Right TV'

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    Riffing on a comment about doing 'the right TV,' Tim argues society has already collapsed into absurdity (a millionaire baby influencer, Trump as president, Jersey Shore's revival) and mocks people still trying to strategize their media careers rationally.

    7moments
    • Tim explains why he's glad to be getting out of comedy culture and gravitates more toward LA's individualistic vibe.
    • The final stage of success in comedy means walking it alone in LA, unlike New York where comedians travel in packs to clubs.
    • Older comedy clubs all have the same dated aesthetic, and some YouTube creators are actually more interesting and entertaining than traditional comedians.
    • Tim mentions he's doing a podcast with Logan Paul soon but won't say when or how.
    • Someone in a green room told Tim it's not about TV anymore, it's about doing 'the right TV.'
    • Tim dismisses the idea of finding the right TV when we're living in the ruins—Bad Baby is a millionaire, Trump is president, and Jersey Shore got renewed.
    • In this climate, the right TV is running around with an AR-15 to get press attention.

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  28. 2 min

    Would Tim Thrive in LA's Lack of Community?

    #Guest

    Ray speculates Tim would actually thrive in LA's isolating, non-communal culture, contrasted with LA's manufactured attempts at soulfulness versus New York's genuine texture.

    5moments
    • LA has a community at the Comedy Store, but the city itself is so vast that you really have to be okay with not meeting people immediately.
    • Tim thinks he might actually like that there's no real community in LA—it's just what it is.
    • New York has a soulful quality to its community that people are trying to recreate, but LA isn't trying to do that at all.
    • LA is just pedal to the metal, nothing soulful—they'd only care if you put french fries in the burritos.
    • When Tim moved to LA, someone texted him "welcome to hell"—describing it as the desert, the last leg of the journey.

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  29. 3 min

    What Tim Will Miss: Astoria, Belts, and Old New York

    #Guest

    Tim reflects on what he'll miss about New York — the raw diversity of Astoria, a $12 belt from a street vendor — and contrasts it with LA's Disney-fied, faded version of old Hollywood grit.

    6moments
    • Tim will miss restaurants like Rendazzo and walking around Astoria, appreciating the diversity and the raw human experience of people in different stages of pain.
    • Astoria has more of the old New York vibe than most of Manhattan or Brooklyn, with authentic character that's disappearing elsewhere.
    • He bought a $12 leather belt from a street vendor selling shoes and belts out of bins, the kind of transaction that requires a two-hour Uber in LA.
    • Parts of LA that used to have a grimy, authentic vibe now feel like Disney World, sanitized and corporate.
    • New York's history is rich and textured while LA's movie history just fades—film doesn't age the way lived experience does.
    • The hustlers, street urchins, and morally bankrupt people have moved into corporate offices in suits, where they can do more damage than street-level crime.

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  30. 2 min

    Ray's Plugs and Tour Dates

    #Station Break

    Tim asks where people can find Ray (his podcast Kampf), then runs through his own upcoming tour dates in San Diego, Charlotte, Nashville, Huntsville, Providence, and New Brunswick.

    6moments
    • Tim announces a new podcast with Lucy Steiner called "Our Love Is Disgusting," available on iTunes and other platforms.
    • Tour dates: American Comedy Company in San Diego August 1st through 3rd, then Charlotte, Nashville, Hoover, and Huntsville, Alabama through August 9th.
    • More tour dates: Good Nights in North Carolina August 22nd through 24th, Stress Factory in New Brunswick, and Comedy Connection in Providence, Rhode Island in September.
    • Tim mentions Hilarities in Cleveland, Ohio as a great club, noting it's less depressing than the Opera Theatre.
    • The Tim Dylan Show will continue weekly on the porch with Davin and Ben, and this is the final episode from New York under the old name "Tim Dylan's Going to Hell."
    • Podcast name change announced: "Tim Dylan's Going to Hell" becomes "The Tim Dylan Show."
  31. 4 min

    Closing Riff: No One Has Sympathy for Long Island

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    Closing the show, Tim and Ray reflect on why nobody has sympathy for Long Island's particular brand of charmless white trash, framing their old show's success as coming from genuinely being part of that underbelly rather than looking down on it.

    7moments
    • Long Island has no real sympathy from anyone, and Tim has wondered why
    • Tim pitched shows centered on Long Island that never got off the ground
    • Of all the white trash collections on the planet, Long Island has the least charm or redeeming qualities
    • Long Islanders are defined by knowing where to get the best grandma slice or which Blockbuster has better copies of Armageddon
    • The show's Long Island content resonated with people more than almost anything else they've done
    • They had credibility talking about Long Island because they were actually eating the Pizza Hut buffet pizza, not observing from outside
    • The show's perspective works because they're insiders whispering in your ear about the people around them, not outsiders criticizing from a distance
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    #Station Break

    Tim gives the final goodbye and plugs the website before ending the episode.