Episode 108 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Not A Fancy Man
Aug 9, 2018 · 1:02:04 · 15 segments, 101 moments indexed
- 1 min
Opening bit about counting with fingers, then music intro and show announcement with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump.
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- 0:03Opening theme and introduction of Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump
- 1 min
Small Studio Audio Fiasco and Tim's LA Trip
#Ray explains the show started late due to audio issues in the small studio, riffs on being alone in a room talking to a mic like a caged animal, and notes Tim Dillon is in LA building his brand with Gas Digital.
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- 0:49Small studio had no audio while Tim was mid-conversation about houses
- 1:11Tim describes sitting alone in a small room like a caged animal, imagining his future as a silenced podcaster
- 1:21Tim is in LA exploring opportunities and building the brand for himself and Gas Digital
- 4 min
Living in a Windowless Bushwick Room with a Chinese Family
#Ray describes breaking his bed, living in a windowless room in a Bushwick family house, the other tenants including a hookah-smoking Saudi kid and a prop comic he's rude to, and his secret girlfriend he has sex with on the broken bed.
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- 2:04Tim lives in a windowless room in Bushwick in a family house with Asian tenants—he's not entirely sure if they're Chinese or Korean.
- 2:44This isn't a typical shared apartment situation like comedians usually do; it's a proper family house with separate rooms and a hallway.
- 3:28Other tenants share the space but aren't his friends—one is a young Saudi national who plays video games and smokes hookah on the stoop.
- 3:59Another tenant is apparently a prop comic Tim has never seen around, and Tim admits he's very mean to him.
- 4:25Tim is terse with the prop comic because he doesn't want conversations about papier-mâché Obama dolls or whatever gimmick he's working on.
- 4:43Tim imagines the prop comic on stage with ridiculous glued-together prop contraptions, everyone high-fiving and celebrating while he wants no part of it.
- 5:04Tim feels emotionally alone in the apartment—he doesn't chat with these people and keeps his distance from their world.
- 5:16The landlord, who's a cop, keeps trying to get Tim to invest in his weird investment app for saving corn or something.
- 3 min
Broken Bed, Childhood Sleeping Arrangements, and Boy Scout Latrine Story
#Ray continues on the state of his room, then digresses into his childhood sleeping on couches, being kicked out of the living room by his brother, and a vivid story about not being able to poop for a week at Boy Scout camp because of communal latrines.
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- 5:33Tim's bedroom is a mess with soda bottles stuffed under the bed that weakened the bed frame.
- 5:46He has a private relationship he doesn't discuss on air, and they have sex on the bed.
- 6:15Tim defends his sexual stamina, saying he fucks hard and isn't the type to just slap and finish.
- 6:40As a kid, Tim went a long time without having a bed and slept on a couch living at home.
- 7:20During a Christmas retail job, his brother negotiated to get him out of the bedroom because he'd fall asleep watching TV.
- 7:41After that period, Tim's brother pushed him out entirely and he was relegated to sleeping on a couch in the basement.
- 8:04Sleeping on a mattress on the floor without a bed frame is depressing and does something to your psyche—it can't be healthy.
- 8:29Tim suggests mattresses on the floor might contribute to becoming an incel, though a vacation to Aruba could make it bearable.
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- 9 min
Ray dives into Alex Jones being banned from Facebook, YouTube, and iTunes, debating corporate free speech obligations, drawing comparisons to founding-era pamphleteering and outhouse latrines, and discussing how tech platforms have replaced traditional journalism and TV.
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- 8:45Alex Jones banned from Facebook, YouTube, iTunes, and Apple TV in a single week; Twitter hasn't banned him yet.
- 9:18Tim weighs the free market argument: conservatives claim to defend corporate prerogative, then demand government intervention for free speech.
- 10:06These companies can't hide behind 'private business' after spending billions embedding themselves into public discourse and deliberately engineering addictive features.
- 11:06YouTube has replaced television for kids under 16, making it structurally different from traditional media platforms.
- 12:27We now get news from people we feel we know personally—a closer relationship than Walter Cronkite—and corporations are deciding which voices to shut off.
- 13:04There's no historical precedent for this scenario in the Constitution, Federalist Papers, or founding documents.
- 13:57Back then, spreading ideas meant nailing pamphlets to outhouses or three-person latrines—the only information technology available.
- 14:36Tim couldn't shit for a week at Boy Scout camp because of the shared three-person latrine setup.
- 16:13Those colonial latrine messages had no global reach; only locals saw them, so there was no precedent for mass-media gatekeeping.
- 17:29Alex Jones is a problem because what he produces isn't news—it's horseshit, and most of what he says is absolute garbage.
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A clip of Alex Jones ranting about globalists, corporate world government, and calling out Keith Olbermann as a traitor.
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- 17:56Tim plays Alex Jones ranting about being at war with globalists establishing a corporate world government that wants to destroy families and private property.
- 18:11Jones calls out Keith Olbermann on MSNBC for saying the family is obsolete and accuses him of being in a cult threatening America.
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- 8 min
Ray credits Jones's showmanship while criticizing his Pizzagate-fueled misinformation and its violent real-world consequences, then goes deep into a history of American-backed coups (Iran/BP, Guatemala/United Fruit, Hawaii) as genuine unreported conspiracies versus Jones's wilder claims about goblins and FEMA camps.
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- 18:40Alex Jones uses history, histrionics, hyperbole, and theatrics better than anyone else, though the entertainment value has scary implications.
- 19:19Tim acknowledges there's an undercurrent of subterfuge and conspiracy in the world, rooted more in money and selfish interests than a coordinated New World Order.
- 19:58Pizzagate was a turning point moment with Alex Jones—a fake Reddit conspiracy about the Clinton administration trading child sex slaves using code words like hot dogs and hamburgers.
- 20:44Someone actually showed up to the pizza place with an assault rifle looking for kids in the basement, demonstrating the real-world consequences of spreading misinformation.
- 21:39Bringing up child abuse makes people want to get violent, which Tim sees as a healthy societal reaction to protect kids, even if Jones's claims are false.
- 22:02Jones calls Parkland shooting survivors crisis actors and calls the kids blown apart fake, which is outrageous regardless of personal opinion about the kids themselves.
- 22:56Tim started listening to Jones during the 2008 mortgage meltdown, drawn to one of the few people discussing how corporate interests drive American wars.
- 23:40The 1953 Iran coup happened because BP lost shit when Iran's democratically elected Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize the oil companies.
- 24:16Churchill couldn't pull off the coup himself, so he duped Eisenhower by claiming the Iranians were communists pushing the domino theory, despite obvious ulterior motives.
- 25:30Jones talked about real imperial interventions—Guatemala, United Fruit, Hawaii—but mixed legitimate government criticism with completely insane claims about goblin aliens in the same breath.
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A clip of Jones ranting about James Randi, George Soros, and Snopes regarding NSA spying claims.
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- 26:29Alex Jones discusses James Randi and spoon-bending claims
- 26:42Jones insists he's not bending spoons
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Debunking Jones's Credibility, the Potato Bread Warehouse Years, and Silver Halide Grift
#Ray dismantles Jones's credibility using the James Randi clip, recalls listening to Jones while working night shifts in a potato bread warehouse, and describes the survivalist product grift (silver halide spray, MRE kits) that funds Jones's operation, questioning the ethics of the platform bans.
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- 26:49Right-wingers think there's a world government forming and the NSA is spying on them.
- 27:26Jones sells himself by claiming his predictions come true, so people believe FEMA camps and crisis actors must be real.
- 28:07Tim worked the graveyard shift at a potato bread warehouse when he first heard Jones, sweating while pushing stacks of rolls around.
- 28:28Jones's commercials sold silver halide nose spray to protect against radiation, the same radiation he claimed was in drinking water.
- 28:53The product sales—MRE kits and survival gear—require hysteria, creating a symbiotic relationship between Jones's claims and his merch.
- 29:33Tim considers Jones's product line disingenuous, comparing it to selling Tim Dillon Show merchandise but dismissing it as cynical.
- 30:20Mainstream journalists on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC also get things wrong regularly, making it unclear how to hold anyone to a truth standard.
- 30:49Allowing Jones to go unchecked demonstrates the danger of free speech versus the need to maintain some limits.
- 31:21People still treat Jones as their Walter Cronkite despite being shown false, indicating the country isn't doing well.
- 31:52People willingly embrace alternative truths because they get emotional about politics and want to attack the other side.
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A final Alex Jones clip about socks, puppies, and a paranoid rant about liberal filmmakers wanting to eliminate money.
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- 32:46Tim mentions wearing fluffy socks in the context of surveillance.
- 33:03The filmmakers speak in little lisping voices, he claims, and they're liberal.
- 33:15Tim describes the situation as pure chaos.
- 12 min
Is Capitalism Failing? History of Private Property, the Post-War Middle Class, and Military Spending
#Ray unpacks the debate over whether capitalism has failed, tracing capitalism's roots to private property and common law, explaining the post-WWII middle class boom, and arguing the $700 billion military budget and $5 trillion in lost Pentagon funds could fund universal healthcare, segueing into geopolitics around North Korea and Iran.
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- 33:42Tim outlines the popular claim that capitalism has failed because people lack jobs and live in poverty.
- 34:18No agreed-upon definition of capitalism exists; people conflate it with stock market crashes and the mortgage crisis.
- 35:39Capitalism stems naturally from the idea of private property, which originated in medieval England when kings granted land to nobles.
- 36:37Property rights gave rise to a middle class with legal standing, eventually leading to the Magna Carta and rule of law.
- 37:26Tim explains the free market: people choose what to buy, and aggregated choices determine value through unorganized synergy.
- 38:22Capitalism has raised overall economic wealth across history, though critics argue this required social safety nets.
- 39:10The post-war American middle class was an aberration tied to the Bretton Woods system and the fact that the U.S. was the only major power left standing after World War II.
- 40:18Factory jobs didn't require college; workers earned robust middle-class wages around 50 to 60 grand equivalent, affording houses and vacations.
- 42:52The U.S. spends 700 billion dollars annually on the military budget, while also losing 5 trillion dollars unaccounted for between 2001 and 2005.
- 43:41Tim argues nuclear proliferation prevents war; if every country had nukes, no one would fight, making massive military spending unnecessary.
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- 4 min
Bin Laden's Porn Stash and Why Terrorists Don't Martyr Themselves
#Ray riffs on a headline about Obama's alleged porn stash, pivots to Bin Laden's actual reported porn collection and Russian stabbing video games, arguing that terrorist leaders like Bin Laden never truly martyr themselves the way Jesus or William Wallace did, and that fear of war is overstated for business reasons.
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- 45:49Bin Laden sitting in front of porn magazines and videos instead of actually martyring himself.
- 46:03Tim contrasts Bin Laden with Jesus, who actually went through with self-sacrifice at 33.
- 46:25The real issue: nobody actually wants to martyr themselves, especially not these terrorist pilots.
- 46:47People in power—whether terrorist organizations or model train clubs—all just want to be the top dog.
- 46:59William Wallace in Braveheart is one of the rare examples of someone actually willing to die for a cause.
- 47:25These people don't exist—stop letting them convince you we're constantly at war.
- 47:52The military is a massive business with $700 billion a year in spending.
- 48:10Private contractors like Blackwater operate in legal grey areas where shooting civilians might or might not be illegal.
- 48:51Fear is what they're selling you; the porn detail was never explained with any actual specifics.
- 49:24Bin Laden had some Russian softcore video game porn, not the elaborate stash the media suggested.
- 49:35Bottom line: he's not trying to martyr himself, so stop accepting the narrative about him.
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- 6 min
Uber vs. Yellow Cabs and the Medallion System
#Ray discusses NYC's attempt to cap Uber/cab numbers, talks to his Uber drivers about their earnings and hours, and contrasts the exploitative yellow cab medallion system with Uber drivers' freedom, plus why cabs never serve Brooklyn or Queens.
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- 49:50NYC government trying to cap Uber to reduce congestion and protect yellow cab drivers' wages.
- 50:11Tim talks to his Uber drivers and one told him he makes $80k-$100k a year by working smart, going to airports for fares.
- 50:55Tim goes off about not using clickbait tags like 'Triple X Girls' and 'Big Dicks' to promote the podcast because they're artists.
- 51:53The Uber driver works 9-12 hour days on weekends but isn't being exploited—people in other jobs work just as long for similar or less money.
- 52:56Yellow cab drivers don't own their medallions; medallion owners rent them out and the drivers barely break even.
- 53:38Yellow cab drivers carry bottles around to piss in just to make their daily nut and pay the medallion rental.
- 53:57Getting rid of the medallion system would be better—cab drivers could just drive Uber instead.
- 54:17Yellow cabs always smell like piss, drivers are unfriendly and drive like maniacs in Manhattan, won't come to Brooklyn or Queens.
- 54:38Manhattan is so expensive now that poor and lower-middle-class people have moved to outer boroughs and rely on Uber for service.
- 55:23State government is extrapolating NYC data to regulate the entire state, which is insane by common sense.
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- 5 min
Ray recounts Elon Musk's failed mini-submarine offer for the Thai cave rescue, the British rescue diver dismissing it, Musk calling him a pedophile and facing a slander suit, and reflects on Musk as part scammer, part legitimate inventor.
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- 56:08Tim introduces Elon Musk's involvement in the Thai cave rescue and the submarine he designed.
- 56:30Kids from a soccer team got trapped in a Chilean cave—actually Thai cave—and the rescue effort took over a week.
- 57:37Musk offered to build a personal submarine to help save the kids, but authorities proceeded with their own rescue plan.
- 58:11The British rescue leader who ran the actual operation told Musk his submarine was bullshit and to shove it up his ass.
- 58:29Musk got angry and called the rescue leader a pedophile, leading to a potential lawsuit against him.
- 58:58Tim acknowledges Musk is smart and builds functioning batteries, but also notes they blow up in people's cars.
- 59:34Musk wanted to replace Puerto Rico's power grid after a hurricane with a battery system, but the project fell through.
- 59:44Tim compares Musk to P.T. Barnum and Alex Jones—a hybrid of real accomplishments and scams.
- 1:00:16The submarine was untested, so no government official would risk putting kids into an unproven device built by Musk.
- 1:00:53While Thailand does have a child prostitution problem, you don't slur everyone from the country as a pedophile just because one person criticized your submarine.
- 1:01:12Tim concludes Musk is likely a fraud, but there's not much anyone can do about it.
- 1 min
Ray thanks listeners, plugs Tim Dillon's tour dates at TimJDillon.com, and promotes his own Instagram and Twitter handle @RayComp.
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- 1:01:21Tim will be back next week; listeners can find tour dates at TimDillonComedy.com and TimJayDillon.com, with shows coming up in the summer.
- 1:01:33Ray Kump promotes his Instagram account (@raycomp) as his main platform for new content.