Episode 356 · The Studio Revamp
The Great Shark Debate | The Tim Dillon Show #356
Aug 10, 2023 · 1:07:08 · 307,000 views · 38 segments, 181 moments indexed
Tim goes head to head with Eli Roth on sharks, the director’s passion for the finned creatures and why the 'Tim Dillon-ization' of Hollywood may happen sooner than you think.
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- 1 min
Introducing Eli Roth and Solitude Talk
#Tim welcomes director/actor Eli Roth, joking about preferring solitude to conversation and about the two of them working together on a film they can't discuss due to the writers' strike.
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- Tim welcomes Eli Roth as a guest, noting it's a rare occasion since most guests are hated.
- Eli explains he listens to the podcast and dislikes when Tim has guests because he tunes in for Tim's rants.
- Tim says if he wants to talk to someone, he'll play a YouTube clip and exit out rather than have a real conversation.
- 1 min
The WGA Strike and Zaslav Diplomacy
#Tim riffs on the ongoing writers' strike, joking that he should be a secret negotiator who understands both the Beverly Hills executives and the Echo Park writers.
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- Tim and guest made a film together but won't discuss it due to strike solidarity.
- Tim jokes about being a secret weapon negotiator between Zaslav, the guest, and Bob Bakish.
- Tim argues he understands both executives and writers because of their lifestyles and values—executives in Beverly Hills versus writers in Echo Park and Silver Lake.
- 2 min
Tim describes discovering Eli's Instagram flooded with bloody shark photos and compares it to a Hollywood breakdown, asking Eli to explain his sudden shark advocacy.
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- Tim notes Eli Roth's Instagram has been completely taken over by shark content, initially thinking it was hacked by environmentalists.
- The feed is nothing but bloody sharks, fish entrails, and opened-up shark carcasses.
- Tim compares Eli's shark obsession to other celebrity breakdowns, citing Lizzo's banana incident as an example of how people in Hollywood lose it.
- Tim asks Eli directly whether everything is okay and why he decided to care so much about sharks, described as vicious killing machines inhabiting the oceans.
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Eli explains how he got into shark conservation through Shark Week and Discovery, describing the shark fin trade, shark liver oil, and the ecological role sharks play in keeping oceans healthy.
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- Tim describes his personality as manic and obsessive, traits he believes help him as a director.
- Growing up in Massachusetts, Tim never encountered a shark in the ocean despite being a swimmer.
- He was asked to be part of Shark Week and learned that 100 million sharks are killed annually.
- Shark fin soup contains no actual shark flavor—it tastes like fishing line or fingernail and requires chicken stock.
- Sharks function as doctors of the sea, keeping the ocean healthy the way a pool filter prevents scum buildup.
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Eli cites statistics claiming vending machines and other everyday causes kill more people than sharks, while Tim pushes back skeptically on the numbers and their sourcing.
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- Sharks are the doctors of the ocean—400 million years old, older than trees and dinosaurs, evolved to kill only what they can catch and maintain ecological balance.
- Sharks remove disease and sickness from the ocean, keeping prey populations genetically healthy.
- Only 12 people a year are killed by sharks, while more people die from vending machine accidents.
- Risk of dying from shark bite is one in 250 million; risk from vending machine accident is one in 112 million.
- Tim spent five years making a documentary called Finn about sharks that aired during Shark Week on Discovery Plus and now streams on Max.
- Nobody likes sharks because they don't have faces, personalities, or vocal cords unlike other animals.
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Tim argues humans should counter shark threats like a geopolitical rival, references the documentary 'After the Bite' about Cape Cod seal and shark populations, and debates whether nature needs to be kept in check.
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- Tim argues people should achieve balance with nature, then questions whether that means not using bug spray or preventing rodents from entering homes.
- Seal populations are out of control in Massachusetts, which is the subject of a documentary called "After the Bite" that Tim finds incredibly boring.
- People from Massachusetts have heinous accents, which Tim says is the worst part of the documentary despite growing up with it.
- The tough guy thing online is to tell swimmers they're in the sharks' home and should accept the risk, but Tim rejects that framing.
- Tim believes we need to see sharks as a threat to counter the same way the U.S. counteracts threats from China with military spending and weapons systems.
- The country spends trillions on defense to prepare for China—shouldn't we experiment with fences and other shark countermeasures with the same resources?
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Eli explains how removing sharks disrupts the food chain (grouper, parrotfish, algae) leading to toxic algae blooms closing California beaches, and Tim jokes about just dumping chemicals in the ocean instead.
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- Tim argues people should fear acidic algae blooms at beaches more than sharks.
- Ventura County and LA beaches closed this summer due to toxic algae blooms, with dolphins and seals washing up dead.
- Sharks keep the ocean ecosystem in balance by controlling grouper populations, which prevents parrotfish from being overeaten.
- Without sharks to regulate the food chain, algae spreads unchecked and turns toxic, making water uninhabitable for marine life.
- Sharks are being pulled from the water for nothing while the myth blames Chinese fishermen instead of worldwide fin-harvesting practices.
- The Alabama deep sea fishing rodeo allowed shark hunting, which Tim says started this ecosystem collapse problem.
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Eli recounts a fisherman winning $6,000 for killing a pregnant tiger shark whose 25 pups were cut out and used in a mocking TikTok set to 'Baby Shark,' which he found deeply upsetting.
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- The Alabama Deep Sea Fishing Rodeo is the biggest fishing bloodbath in the United States, where thousands of boats compete.
- They added a bear hunter who brought in great hammerheads, bull sharks, and tiger sharks, causing massive upset.
- Tim compares shark bites to investigative bites—like testing a sandwich you're not sure about before committing.
- Sharks attacked five people at the beginning of summer, but the bites weren't fatal.
- More people die from fentanyl, bees, and dogs than from sharks, so the crusade seems selective.
- Shark meat contains 35 times the allowable amount of mercury in the human body.
- Tim questions Ocean Ramsay redirecting sharks and tapping their noses, comparing it to touching his doctor's nose in Beverly Hills.
- Brett Rutledge won the rodeo by killing a thousand-pound tiger shark and took home six thousand dollars paid for by iHeartRadio.
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Tim reads a Raycon earbuds ad touting awareness mode, battery life, and a discount code, deadpanning that the earbuds are the most important thing in his life.
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- Tim explains why he loves Raycon earbuds: they're like the other one but better and less expensive.
- The earbuds have 32 hour battery life and awareness mode so you can stay aware while listening to music or podcasts.
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Eli criticizes NOAA officials and university scientists for defending the Alabama shark rodeo as sustainable, accusing them of being funded by the fishing industry.
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- Tim jokes he's in a safe house while discussing families.
- Scientists from Mississippi State University documented the shark rodeo on his Instagram.
- Janet Coit at NOAA Fisheries claims shark fishing is sustainable, contradicting the previous footage.
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Eli praises RFK's approach to environmentalism through hunters and fishermen rather than politically charged language, and clarifies he only wants shark fishing banned, not all fishing.
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- Shark finning kills at least 100 million sharks annually, possibly as high as 270 million—30,000 per hour.
- Someone cut out 25 shark babies, made a TikTok with them, and took prize money from iHeartRadio while scientists defended it as science.
- Tim explains why he goes crazy about conservation: science labs and NGOs are funded by the fishing industry, so they won't speak out against it.
- RFK's approach to environmentalism avoided divisive language like 'global warming' and instead asked hunters and fishermen if they wanted clean rivers and healthy forests.
- The fishing industry can play a vital role in conservation, but Tim's position is specifically to ban shark fishing, not all fishing.
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They discuss shark bycatch in gill nets, taxidermied sharks as wall mounts, and pivot into the true whaling history behind Moby Dick and the Essex sinking.
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- So much of the sharks are killed by bycatch in gill nets anyway, and they're all ground up with no fins on them—it's a pointless industry.
- Tim argues the reason people keep shark fishing going is for Facebook likes, and he's positioning himself as a voice questioning why we do it at all.
- Fifty years ago the whole world got together and decided to stop killing whales—why can't we do the same with sharks?
- People thought whales were mindless monsters until the whale stopped, turned around, and rammed the boat twice—and it happened to the captain again, shipwrecking him twice.
- Tim argues we exempt sharks from criticism for their behavior by calling them apex predators rather than holding them responsible when they attack people.
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Tim presses Eli on whether sharks should face consequences for killing people, while Eli describes his own close encounters swimming unprotected with lemon sharks, tiger sharks, and great whites.
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- Tim compares odds of shark attack to winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.
- Humans kill 30,000 sharks per hour — already getting the punishment Tim wished for.
- Tim argues sharks would kill everyone if they came on land, countering the idea they're harmless.
- Tim describes swimming with a gray reef shark that had a hook removed from its mouth in the Bahamas.
- Surrounded by a hundred lemon sharks while stationary with chum — they ignored him.
- Tim spent an hour underwater with a tiger shark, fed it by hand, watched it approach cautiously.
- Great whites in Guadalupe require a cage by law; Tim saw seals hanging off shark fins.
- Sharks fear bubbles and large unfamiliar shapes; they need an hour to approach, require calm breathing.
- Everything Tim learned about sharks from media was a lie — the industry hides the truth to keep killing them for profit.
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They debate whether Spielberg's Jaws created irrational fear of sharks, and Eli vents about a New York Times review trashing his work without engaging with his shark documentary's arguments.
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- Spielberg regretted making Jaws and apologized for the damage to sharks, though it became one of the greatest movies ever.
- Peter Benchley identified Jaws as a major component in shark fear, but Tim argues the fear may be justifiable given actual shark attacks.
- Tim defends sharks because they lack vocal cords and can't speak for themselves, unlike humans who would say horrible things.
- The New York Times trashed his special—calling it Eli Roth torture porn—without apparently watching the movie or understanding his point.
- Critics assume Tim exploits gore because he's known for horror, but he spent five years making a documentary and consulted serious scientists.
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Eli names the Alabama-aligned scientists who call environmentalism a hatred of humanity and insist shark populations are fine, while defending his own credibility.
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- Scientists call Tim crazy and extremist for his shark protection stance, which he says they write down
- NOAA put up an Instagram defending shark tournaments without acknowledging 25 deaths, because they're bought and paid for by Commerce Department
- Tim describes diving in Fakarava, Tahiti's shark superhighway, where James Cameron was the only other person in a boat
- After banning deer hunting in his home region, hunters became hunted by deer instead, raising questions about balance
- Tim argues it will take 25 years of not killing sharks to let populations rebound, and if fishing stops, shark bites could rise to 100 per year with increased fatalities
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- 2 min
Tim frames the tradeoff bluntly as more human deaths for fewer shark deaths, and pushes the idea of clubbing seals to control shark populations near beaches.
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- Tim argues that healthier oceans with more sharks are worth the trade-off of increased human deaths.
- His house manager let his pool develop an algae bloom, leading him to question why we don't just dump chemicals in the ocean to solve the same problem.
- Tim compares ocean management to pool maintenance, suggesting a better 'house manager' (shark) would be preferable to a seal.
- People reflexively defend sharks and attack humans, but Tim argues that's wrong — you shouldn't be blamed for being in the ocean.
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Tim uses a rambling analogy comparing his pool's algae problem (caused by his house manager) to ocean ecosystems needing sharks, while Eli pushes back on the comparison.
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- Tim references his Milgram experiment recreation for Discovery, explaining how people trust scientists when told to do harmful things.
- People go crazy with misguided activism, ripping babies from pregnancy and making TikToks under the guise of science.
- Tim questions why we're killing sharks when we can't eat them and they're completely useless to us.
- Shark fishing tournaments at Block Island and Star Island result in juvenile sharks being thrown back and left to rot on the ocean floor.
- We criticize China for environmental destruction while killing sharks at home — why can't we clean up our own backyard first?
- Real change will have to come from the kids of Mississippi and Alabama fishermen asking their fathers to stop killing sharks for TikTok clout and prize money.
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Tim argues people fetishize dangerous animals citing Grizzly Man's fatal bear encounter and predicts shark activist Ocean Ramsay will eventually be attacked on camera.
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- Public safety matters when people swim in the ocean, and sharks are coming closer to beaches now.
- Tim argues against people who fetishize vicious animals and think bears and sharks are cute and cuddly.
- This trend of romanticizing dangerous animals happens all the time, as evidenced by various examples.
- 3 min
A riff on Americans resembling sea lions, followed by debate over whether banning seal clubbing caused shark overpopulation and endangered swimmers, tying back to the algae bloom problem.
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- Grizzly Man got eaten by a bear, and Ocean Ramsay will statistically get ripped apart by a tiger shark on social media.
- Tim argues sharks should be viewed as predators, and humans sizing them up that way is fair since we're not on their food chain.
- Americans are getting so fat they're becoming indistinguishable from sea lions in the water.
- Tim proposes electric fences and poisoning to handle sharks, but the real solution is clubbing seals on the beach.
- Seal clubbing was banned, so now seals proliferate, sharks have more prey, and beaches close because of human attacks.
- The government's job is public safety, not shark protection, and parents who lost children to sharks have a right to be angry.
- Parents who lost their child in Massachusetts to a shark attack deserve to be furious at the situation.
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- 1 min
Tim reads a ShipStation ad about automating shipping logistics for online businesses so entrepreneurs can focus on their 'magic.'
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- ShipStation lets you interface with all major shipping carriers in one service to automate shipping tasks.
- Tim argues your job is to generate business and marketing, not worry about whether the Johnson family got their package.
- Everyone has magic inside them, but most people fail because they're too concerned with shipping logistics.
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Tim uses a House of Cards hacking tangent to pitch ExpressVPN for protecting internet privacy from hackers and data miners.
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- House of Cards had a plot where someone hacked the NSA to help Frank and Claire Underwood win an election
- Tim pitches ExpressVPN as protection against hackers, governments, and data mining operations
- The show should have been allowed to finish, even though season five has a pretty fine ending
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Tim jokes about Hawaiian ancestor-spirit shark beliefs clashing with tourist crime, then argues wealthy homeowners in Malibu or Southampton should be exempt from shark danger.
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- In Hawaiian spirituality, the spirit of your ancestor goes into a shark.
- The moment you leave the Four Seasons in Maui, spirituality vanishes and someone puts a gun in your mouth for your luggage.
- If a person's spirit goes into a shark after death, wouldn't you want that to happen to the person who mugged you?
- Tim argues that if you own a house in Southampton, Malibu, or Palm Beach and paid enough money, sharks should know not to touch you.
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They debate who would win a shark vs. polar bear fight, and Tim mocks the phrase 'surfing community' popularized by Jonah Hill.
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- Sharks are ambush predators that move like rockets and bite before you know they're there.
- Tim questions why we tolerate people giving sharks cute nicknames and swimming with them when we'd call someone nuts for living with a tiger.
- A healthier approach would be presenting sharks as important but dangerous—respect them from a distance, don't swim at night, use drones to spot them.
- Tim hates the phrase "surfing community," calling those two words vile and disgusting, citing Jonah Hill's usage of them.
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Eli debunks the 'sharks don't get cancer' myth behind shark cartilage supplements, and they joke about clam chowder and tuna stockpiling conspiracies.
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- People keep killing sharks for money regardless of what's said about it, and FedEx and GNC continue shipping and selling shark products.
- Shark oil was tested in a lab for the documentary and causes inflammation rather than providing any benefit.
- Tim ate shark fin soup in the documentary and confirms it's not good, though a gelatin version exists that's identical.
- Tim won't go on a crusade to protect clams despite eating New England clam chowder, distinguishing this from the shark campaign.
- Someone told Tim that a corporation is trying to kill and freeze every tuna in the ocean to stockpile and own them.
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Eli addresses vegan critics who say he should defend all animals, leading into a defense of poor communities worldwide eating dogs out of necessity rather than cruelty.
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- Vegans criticize Tim for not going far enough, questioning why he draws the line at certain animals like sharks or octopus.
- Tim references the documentary "My Octopus Friend" and explains how seeing an animal's intelligence makes it emotionally difficult to eat it.
- Most of the world is starving, and many people would eat anything they could get rather than go hungry.
- Poor Chinese people eat dogs out of necessity, and Tim supports their right to do so despite criticism.
- In economically struggling American towns like Levittown, Long Island, Tim wouldn't judge a family for eating a dog if that's all they had available.
- It's privileged to lecture people in poverty from a position of comfort, like lecturing Africans about animal welfare on a safari.
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Eli argues African game hunting can fund conservation, then explains a live shark is worth far more in tourism revenue than a dead one, citing his work with fishermen in Baja California.
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- Game hunting supports the environment by funding conservation in areas that need investment and ensuring species don't go extinct.
- Tim criticizes ocean conservationists having tea parties with sharks on yachts while other people are getting eaten by them.
- One dead shark sells for thirty dollars, but one living shark generates $250,000 in shark tourism and dive tourism revenue.
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Eli describes interviewing shark fin traders in China who defend eating everything out of poverty, leading into a bit about a rickshaw-driving panda-friend boy craving shark fin soup.
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- Tim sat down with shark traders in China who'd never been on camera before to understand their perspective.
- Tim's counterpoint: sharks will be extinct in ten years if fishing doesn't stop; they can't repopulate in time.
- Food is a luxury to many people around the world, not a given like it is in the Western world.
- Tim paints a scene of a hungry student in China working hard, driving a rickshaw with a panda friend, coming home to shark fin soup.
- Suggesting someone abandon their culture for McDonald's instead is a problematic ask, Tim argues.
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Eli reveals shark fin soup's origin as a 1960s marketing gimmick rather than ancient tradition, tastes like nothing, and requires toxic bleach processing, comparing it to plastic in Subway bread.
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- Shark fin soup's origins: emperors in year 800 supposedly ate it for strength, but restaurants invented it as a gimmick in the 1960s to attract weddings and hotel stays.
- The soup tastes like nothing—basically fishing wire—so restaurants add chicken and pork stock, then scrub it with toilet-bowl bleach that contains neurotoxins.
- Tim notes he's describing 85% of American fast food the same way, pointing out Subway has yoga mat plastic in the bread.
- Young people in China don't want shark fin soup at their weddings because parents serve it just to show off and demonstrate wealth.
- Shark fin soup causes impotence and brain damage from the neurotoxins, yet it has no actual flavor without being seasoned with other broths.
- Expensive mushroom soup or lobster soup makes wedding guests just as happy, making the shark fin tradition purely about displaying money.
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Tim asks if any fishermen have swayed Eli's views, and Eli says only Indonesian protein scarcity resonates, while most shark fin trade is mafia-driven and pointless, especially in Spain.
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- Shark fin soup tradition is a fake marketing gimmick, not a genuine practice.
- Tim asks if sitting down with actual fishermen has changed anyone's mind on the practice.
- The only legitimate argument he sees is starvation in Indonesia driving protein need.
- The real answer for why it continues: everyone's just making money from killing them.
- Tim rejects compromise: the middle ground would be viewing sharks as violent predators to protect ourselves from.
- He's been in the water his whole life and saw a sand shark once that was disgusted by him.
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Plane Wi-Fi Shark Attack Videos and Beach Etiquette
#Tim admits to watching shark attack videos on planes, argues sharks are still violent apex predators, and riffs on his preference for quiet, splash-free beaches with women in white linen.
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- Media brainwashing over 40 years has made people terrified of sharks instead of respecting and protecting them.
- Tim watches shark attack videos on plane Wi-Fi, and also watches plane crashes while on planes.
- Sharks are apex predators and violent, but Tim's position is to protect them while also protecting humans from them.
- Can't build ocean gates to keep sharks out because the ocean moves and you can't contain it that way.
- Shark spotters on beaches alert people when sharks appear, and most of the time sharks are swimming nearby without anyone knowing.
- Sharks only attack things they know they're going to eat—they eat sick and dying fish and wander the globe as pelagic predators.
- Tim's ideal beach scene: quiet women in white linens reading novels while men and housekeepers bring children in the water.
- Tim believes human beings are special and unique, a statement he's held throughout his life.
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Tim asserts humans have dominion over animals via civilization's achievements, and Eli explains that great white sharks communicate via mouth-gaping and fin movements to coordinate breaching.
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- Tim argues cigarettes can make certain situations more livable, and wouldn't ban smoking.
- Humans are special and unique with dominion over animals because of intelligence—drive-throughs, nuclear weapons, and all-inclusive resorts prove it.
- Great white sharks communicate through mouth gaping and fin movements, deciding amongst themselves who breaches to attack seals.
- People Tim grew up with use the same mouth gaping and fin movements to decide who talks to girls and who gets in what car.
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They wind down the shark debate with a call to 'lighten up,' Eli names sharks and dogs as favorite animals, and Tim jokingly asks if he's the greatest actor alive, comparing himself to Leo and Clooney.
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- Tim's philosophy: Live and Let Live—don't tell other cultures how to live, even if it means shark fin soup at weddings.
- But when someone posts TikToks of 25 dead shark babies hanging from an American flag and celebrates it, that's where he draws the line.
- Sharks are his favorite animal, followed by dogs.
- Tim claims he's the greatest actor alive and would do Leo DiCaprio's and George Clooney's roles better because he'd focus on the movie instead of sex appeal.
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Willy Wonka and Ruined Franchises
#A quick bit suggesting Tim should play Willy Wonka and feed kids to sharks, plus lament about beloved franchises being ruined by reboots.
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- Tim laments franchises from his childhood being destroyed or reinvented in ways he can't endorse.
- Algae blooms are a real problem—beaches were closed this summer because they're acidic and out of control.
- Killing sharks in Alabama affects sharks in California because they move around between states.
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They joke about whether sharks could be relocated to land, then discuss the idea that Earth is in its sixth mass extinction and sharks may not survive human fishing pressure.
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- Sharks lack faces and emotions, which is why people only notice them during attacks.
- Sharks are the last real dinosaurs still alive on Earth.
- Bug populations are dying, which is connected to the larger extinction problem.
- Tim defends Western civilization as a genuine human accomplishment despite its environmental costs.
- Defending civilization gets you labeled as a crazy extremist.
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Tim jokes that the Gilgo Beach serial killer at least never killed sharks, then challenges Eli on the hypocrisy of making horror films about fear while campaigning against fear of sharks, tying it to Hostel predicting real Epstein-style elite predation.
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- The Gilgo Beach killer didn't target sharks, so shark-hunting fear-mongering isn't equivalent to actual serial murder.
- Tim notes his audience will side with the guest's statistics and biology over his superstition and fear-based arguments.
- Tim argues superstition and fear have tremendous value regardless of their factual basis.
- Isn't it hypocritical to lecture people about fear while making movies designed to terrify them about secret elite murder clubs?
- The Hostile screenplay predicted real threats like Epstein's network before the public knew about them.
- Tim claims he was correct about hidden dangers while the guest was right about sharks, so both perspectives merit taking seriously.
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Eli says making Hostel primed audiences to trust his shark message, and Tim jokes to an anxious friend that nothing notable, good or bad, will ever happen to him regarding sharks.
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- Making horror movies about sharks reaches environmentalist skeptics who wouldn't listen to a straightforward environmental pitch.
- Tim tells his shark-anxious friend that nothing special will ever happen to him, so he shouldn't worry about being eaten by a shark.
- The documentary 'Finn' is available on HBO Max and Discovery Plus, with support resources on Instagram and the Shark Allies page.
- Tim recommends watching 'Guy in Egypt Eaten by Shark' on YouTube as the core argument—a few minutes of a man yelling as sharks attack him.
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Eli directs listeners to watch his documentary 'Finn' on HBO Max and follow Shark Allies, while Tim plugs his American Royalty comedy tour.
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- American Royalty Tour on sale now.
- Tim discusses the need for the "Tim dylanization of Hollywood" to start soon.
- Beyond the strike, there are regular people hurting—dry cleaners, restaurants, side businesses suffering real economic damage.
- It's fun to criticize Hollywood, but there's an entire economy of invisible workers genuinely affected by the strike.
- The real victims everyone's thinking about are the CEOs whose names are being dragged through the mud.
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Sympathy for Hollywood Workers Amid the Strike
#Tim closes by acknowledging that beyond mocked executives like Zaslav, everyday restaurant workers and unemployed writers are truly suffering from the strike's economic fallout.
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- Restaurant workers and unemployed writers deserve some sympathy too, though most should go to people yelled at during Hollywood commencement speeches.
- Tim jokes it would be funny if Zaslav just shot himself instead of wildly firing people, but notes no one has fun anymore.