Episode 133 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Bay Ridge Boys
Feb 2, 2019 · 1:12:34 · 24 segments, 181 moments indexed
- 1 min
Opening music and applause before the conversation begins.
1moment
- 0:00The Tim Dillon Show cold open and theme song begin
- 2 min
Netflix, Cable Deals, and the Political Middle Ground Dying
#Riff on getting a special on cable versus streaming, joking about diversity numbers, then a discussion of how there's no market left for moderate political voices, using writer Mickey Kaus as an example of an ignored centrist.
7moments
- 0:51Doing a Netflix special now means you have to sell cable packages house-to-house like a door-to-door salesman.
- 1:07Tim's special was up 43% amongst diverse people between the ages of 18 and 35.
- 1:19Tim is in talks with InfoWars after signing an overall deal elsewhere.
- 1:30There's no market for middle-ground rational reasonable people anymore—you have to go either alt-right conspiracy theorist or fully woke to the left.
- 1:56Mickey Kaus, a rational Democrat with immigration concerns, gets rejected by both sides—Democrats call him alt-right, Republicans call him a cuck.
- 2:11Tim saw Kaus alone in a Santa Monica diner at 2 AM on his computer, which is where the political center has ended up.
- 2:25The only way to survive in media is to go hard in one direction instead of trying to appeal to the vanishing middle ground.
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- 1 min
Game of Thrones as a Metaphor for Political Chaos
#Tim compares the current political landscape to Game of Thrones with no clear good guys, predicting AOC will eventually be torn down the way Bernie Sanders was after allegations against his campaign staff.
5moments
- 2:49Game of Thrones appeals to Tim because there's no clear good guy—just chaos with families competing for power, which mirrors current politics.
- 3:04Trump, the media, the left, and Hollywood are all bad actors; Tim can't identify anyone trustworthy enough to hold power.
- 3:16Even saints on the left eventually fall—Bernie Sanders had sexual assault in his camp and became a rapist in the narrative.
- 3:33Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is being beatified now, but she'll inevitably be attacked by her own side at some point.
- 3:49Both sides don't need to do anything; they just cannibalize and attack themselves in what amounts to a civil war.
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- 3 min
The Nassau County Teacher and the Louis C.K. Answer
#Story about a Long Island teacher who didn't care about the Louis C.K. Me Too allegations, followed by a story about his father's hospital visit and a nurse's blunt reaction to a rectal-temperature joke, contrasted with the fragility of people in LA.
8moments
- 4:16Tim talks to a Nassau County teacher who asks him about his favorite comedian.
- 4:36Tim answers Louis C.K., acknowledging it's not a popular answer right now.
- 4:50The teacher had no idea about Louis C.K.'s Me Too scandal and considers Twitter gossip noise in her life.
- 5:17Tim's father went to a Staten Island hospital with suspected congestive heart failure.
- 5:45A nurse asks Tim's father if he wants to take his rectal temperature himself or have her do it.
- 6:00Tim apologizes to the nurse for his father's comment, but she dismisses it as typical dirty old man behavior.
- 6:19Tim compares New York nurses and doctors to those in LA, saying LA medical professionals look embalmed and fragile.
- 6:34Tim describes LA residents as all looking like they're about to disintegrate into sand, unable to handle a real winter.
- 4 min
Classical Liberals Pushed Right and the Politics-Obsessed Bore
#Extended discussion with Giannis about how progressives have pushed classical liberals rightward, how people who take politics too seriously or worship celebrities were shunned growing up, and how politics has become a substitute personality for boring people.
7moments
- 6:58Tim prefers performing for right-wing audiences because they actually laugh, while left audiences just want applause breaks.
- 7:24Classical liberals like himself are being pushed rightward as progressives gentrify the left and split it in two.
- 8:00This displacement has pushed religious conservatives out without a home, which Tim sees as a positive development.
- 8:37People obsessed with politics are always the most radical and the most bored—renting, with roommates and temp jobs.
- 8:58Tim's priorities shifted once he bought property and had a daughter; now he wants pedophiles on an island away from him.
- 9:23Growing up in his crew, two things got you kicked out: taking politics too seriously or being impressed by celebrities.
- 9:50The unspoken third rule was that you had to be a regular cocaine user to hang with his crew.
- 4 min
Twitter Ruined Everyone Being Heard, and the PC Boyfriend Who Says 'Partner'
#Riff on his father's early prediction that Twitter would be bad because not everyone deserves a platform, dead-eyed online influencers, and suspicion of straight men who overcorrect with PC language like calling a girlfriend a 'partner.'
10moments
- 10:19Used to be winners and losers in America; now everybody celebrates eighth place because Twitter gave everyone a platform.
- 10:33Tim's father, with an eighth-grade education, predicted Twitter would be a problem for the country because not everybody's supposed to be heard from.
- 10:50People with the biggest online followings turn out to be dead-eyed, uncomfortable in real life—like Adderall-fueled husks staring at screens.
- 11:20A straight guy said 'partner' instead of 'girlfriend'—trying to be overly PC—which signals he's hiding something, probably abusive.
- 11:48Tim doesn't trust people who act interested just because someone is gay or a minority; he wants to know who they actually are.
- 12:21The problem with identity-first thinking is you're not seeing somebody as an individual, you're seeing them as a category serving a group.
- 12:36Tim wants to lose weight so he'll live long enough to see Giannis move to Long Island and can show up with bagels on day one.
- 13:05Being gay is the last thing people should know about Tim; he doesn't want to be viewed as someone getting career help from 2019 identity dynamics.
- 13:35Some comics you look at and know that without being gay they'd work at Geico—Tim doesn't want that assumption about himself.
- 13:46What used to matter was being naturally funny with weird interests; that still should be the standard for success.
- 3 min
Being Gay Isn't the Interesting Thing About Him
#Tim and Giannis discuss not wanting to be defined by identity categories, referencing Mateo Lane's talent, the impossibility of a show like Married with Children airing today, and the Bryan Cranston wheelchair-casting controversy.
7moments
- 14:12Even if you're undeniably talented and can't hide being gay, like Mateo Lane, it doesn't matter—he's just a guy who happens to be gay.
- 14:37Tim's agents in 2010 wanted him to do a 15-minute Netflix set by leaning into a character voice or persona.
- 15:10A show like Ruffalo's version of Maurice couldn't exist today; it would be considered a hate crime, even though Puerto Ricans and gays were among its biggest fans.
- 15:38Brian Krasinski got in trouble for playing a character in a wheelchair, raising the question of whether acting itself is now forbidden.
- 15:50If an unknown actor in a wheelchair doesn't sell tickets, it's a business decision, not a moral failure.
- 16:08Hollywood lecturing everyone on morality is absurd when the industry is built on sexual predators and pedophilia.
- 16:19It's like if the subprime mortgage industry crashed the world economy and then turned around telling people to do better.
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Hollywood's Hypocrisy on Morality
#Riff on Hollywood lecturing the public on morality despite rampant sexual predation, referencing the Michael Jackson documentary and comparing the industry to the subprime mortgage crisis, plus musings on comedians' role as society's outlet.
8moments
- 16:47Michael Jackson documentary features a mock wedding between him and a nine-year-old, yet shrines to him exist worldwide.
- 16:58Tim ranks the worst types of people: criminals who prey on the elderly, rapists, and Hollywood actors seeking fame.
- 17:12The desire to become an actor stems from wanting to be famous, not from artistic or creative impulses—it's narcissism.
- 17:27Comics differ because their job is to be honest on stage, not to tell people how to live their lives.
- 17:42Tim admits his own drive to perform for massive audiences is a fucked-up impulse that disqualifies him from moral instruction.
- 17:53Someone who needs constant validation from crowds shouldn't be advising others how to live.
- 18:04Comedians are like 1920s depression-era carnival acts—useless people providing reprieve from society's actual work.
- 18:19The audience takes a break from keeping society running to come laugh at useless performers.
- 3 min
Governors Comedy Club and Getting Paid in Cash
#Story about a rowdy Governors audience member telling off a club owner while filming Kevin James, followed by riffing on getting paid in cash on Long Island and the gray-zone criminality of the peninsula.
8moments
- 19:01Tim describes Governor's Comedy Club audiences out of control on their phones, barely noticing there's a show happening.
- 19:17Kevin James got a guest spot on Tim's headlining show; a woman filming him told the club owner to shut up.
- 19:49Tim respects the woman's indifference to Kevin James's celebrity status—she paid for the night and would film whoever she wanted.
- 20:13Getting paid in cash at Governors feels like robbing a jewelry store, with a handful of bills instead of a check.
- 20:27Tim worried the cash payment might be a setup, wondering if he was supposed to walk to his car through that big parking lot.
- 20:38Long Island is a gray zone peninsula where every family has a little criminality—dentists and doctors probably deal Percocets on the black market.
- 21:01Most Long Island jobs come through connections: you meet your mother's friend Kathy at Recreation once or twice and suddenly you're employed for the summer.
- 21:18Watching The Seven Five documentary, Tim instantly recognized the dirty cop was from Nassau County the moment he appeared on screen.
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- 4 min
Long Island vs. Brooklyn, and Naked Kids at a Park Slope Birthday Party
#Comparison of Long Island's scoundrel culture to gentrified Brooklyn, followed by a story about a Park Slope birthday party encouraging naked kids versus a wholesome Bay Ridge preschool birthday.
8moments
- 22:03Long Island can never be gentrified because there's no trains—gentrification requires the MTA, not the Long Island Railroad.
- 22:19Real scoundrels stayed on Long Island while Brooklyn's scoundrels fled to be hip and bohemian elsewhere.
- 22:42Tim tried to do projects about Long Island but they all failed because nobody in LA cares what Long Island is.
- 23:11At his daughter's Park Slope preschool birthday party, hippy parents encouraged the children to be naked to express themselves.
- 23:44At his daughter's Bay Ridge preschool birthday party, an old-school dad threw an egg at another dad for wearing a Boston Red Sox shirt.
- 24:03Tim prefers his daughter growing up with old-school New Yorkers and Chinese families rather than gentrified hipster kids.
- 24:26Every Chinese family at the school has their 150-year-old grandparents picking up the kids because the parents work at the store.
- 24:53After play dates with Chinese friends, his daughter doesn't want to look at an iPad and plays with letters and numbers instead.
- 2 min
Peanut Allergies, Park Slope Lawsuits, and No Vigils for Tim and Giannis
#Contrast between a Park Slope peanut-allergy lawsuit culture and a Bay Ridge shrug-it-off attitude, then a bit about how no one would hold a vigil if Tim and Giannis died, unlike the outpouring for Kevin Barnett.
7moments
- 25:15Tim contrasts Park Slope parenting—teaching empathy—with Chinese children being drilled in math to dominate the world.
- 25:44In Bay Ridge, someone baked peanut brownies for a class despite knowing a kid had a peanut allergy, forcing an EpiPen use.
- 25:56If that peanut incident happened in Park Slope, it would be a lawsuit and front-page news; in Bay Ridge, nobody cared.
- 26:11When Kevin Barnett died, Tim noticed all the nice things said about him and started thinking about his own death.
- 26:29He and Giannis would refuse a vigil anyway because it would require treating everyone nicely with respect until your death.
- 26:40Instead of eulogies, people would just say they were funny and ask if anyone saw Bill Burr's new special.
- 26:52Nobody would write that Tim and Giannis were great people—there would be none of that sentimental stuff.
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- 3 min
Why America's Going to Lose: The Beta Wolf and the EpiPen
#Extended riff building on the peanut allergy story into a broader theory about weak members of the pack dictating group behavior, tying it to the History Hyenas podcast's take on ancient Sparta and Roman dictators.
9moments
- 27:00America's going to lose because the weak can't dictate how the pack progresses—nature demands hierarchy.
- 27:22Park Slope bans peanuts from school entirely when one kid has an allergy; Bay Ridge keeps the peanuts and supplies more EpiPens.
- 27:57Tim's model: realism with compassion—let the kid learn to keep up with the pack, but give parents the tools to save him if needed.
- 28:22Pecan brownies need texture and crunch; you can't sacrifice that for one kid's allergy.
- 28:42The Sacred Band of Thebes was a Spartan division of lovers who fought together because they'd die to protect the man they loved in battle.
- 29:06Tim identifies Gianna as someone with dictator qualities who would rule like an ancient Roman emperor if given the chance.
- 29:20In Tim's Rome scenario, Gianna would point at attractive women, and Tim would be his sword and muscle, dragging them away from screaming parents.
- 29:46The woman would become the dictator's property—imprisoned, sexually used, her mouth used on his feet, owned by the state.
- 29:57Tim sees no issue with this arrangement, attributing his lack of objection to his Long Island upbringing.
- 4 min
History Hyenas, Queen Month, and the Skewed Left Education
#Discussion of the History Hyenas podcast's Queen-themed episodes on Cleopatra and others, then a shift into how liberal arts history education over-focuses on colonial sins while ignoring ancient brutality and disease's role in Native American deaths.
10moments
- 30:17History Hyenas is doing "Queen Month" this month instead of women's month.
- 30:27Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian—she was actually born in Greece and was Macedonian, not the Sandra Dee people assume.
- 30:53Tim contrasts his free speech with his co-host Chrissy, calling him "Chrissy Greenlights" because he just says whatever.
- 31:09Tim describes how material that gets applause breaks at Knights of Columbus in Ridgewood would land him in jail if said publicly in the West Village.
- 31:43Tim majored in history and loves going on history tours to learn about different neighborhoods and eras.
- 32:04Growing up, Tim couldn't be open about interests like brown street signs marking historical areas without getting threatened by people like the Bartoli brothers.
- 32:22His liberal arts history education is skewed left, attempting to include the people's history instead of just corporate heads and leaders.
- 32:55Including diverse perspectives was good, but it's increasingly usurped the curriculum—now it focuses only on Western sins while exaggerating them.
- 33:27Ancient history was barbaric and cruel with countless invasions and enslavements, but the curriculum ignores that to focus on Christopher Columbus being bad.
- 33:39Up to 90% of Native Americans who died were killed by disease, not colonizers—it was inevitable once germs arrived.
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- 4 min
The Straight White Male Boogeyman and the Stroller Tweet
#Riff on a comedian's tweet blaming straight white men for a subway death, mocking the racial score-keeping mentality, and defending the idea that comedians shouldn't march in step with mainstream narratives, including a Ted Bundy tangent.
9moments
- 34:00Straight white male has become the boogeyman blamed for all of society's problems.
- 34:22A comedian friend tweeted that a Black woman falling down stairs with a stroller was a "straight white male's problem" because people of color helped him with his kids.
- 34:47Tim argues that if you're a dad needing help with a stroller, you're a pussy, and as a gay white male he's never helped anyone with their children because it's weird.
- 35:15The guy's kid is apparently counting the race of everyone who helps carry strollers and posting about it on Twitter as a percentage breakdown.
- 35:48It's sophistry, self-aggrandizing narcissistic bullshit—you're a liar saying it because it's the fashionable thing to say right now.
- 36:34Blaming everything on "straight white guys" and the patriarchal system is lazy analysis that sounds good on a Long Island porch.
- 36:53Comedians got into this job because they didn't want to march in step with society and enforce mainstream opinions.
- 37:23Every time Tim sees a comedian with a hack, lazy, bad take like that, they're failing at their job.
- 37:46Ted Bundy could get away with stuff by playing the nice white guy in a turtleneck to Utah police, whereas a Black kid would get pulled over immediately.
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- 3 min
Wanting His Daughter to Become a Cop, and Tough Irish/Puerto Rican Women
#Tim says he'd like his daughter to become a cop or firefighter, then discusses the tough women in his family who wouldn't tolerate assault, contrasting them with more fragile narratives around consent.
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- 39:03Tim wants his daughter to become a cop, thinks she'd be good at it.
- 39:21He has three women in his family who became firefighters, which shaped his perspective.
- 39:34His cousin, a firefighter, was assaulted, punched the guy in the face—can't understand why other women don't fight back the same way.
- 39:53Irish women age like cabbages and will beat the shit out of you; at nine years old, his cousin ripped a phone off the wall and hit him in the face with it.
- 40:30The tough women in his family are the model for what he expects from his daughter.
- 40:43His daughter's mom is a Puerto Rican girl from Sunset Park—tough, doesn't tolerate discomfort, just leaves if something bothers her.
- 2 min
The Park Slope Elevator Binky Confrontation
#Story about a Park Slope woman criticizing his daughter's pacifier use in an elevator, and his daughter's mother hitting the emergency brake in response.
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- 41:18Tim's daughter still using a pacifier when a Park Slope woman comments on it in the elevator.
- 41:40His daughter's mom hits the emergency brake as an instinct and tells the woman to mind her business.
- 41:58She refuses to restart the elevator until the woman agrees to stop offering unsolicited parenting advice.
- 42:12Tim explains that most women he knows would react unfavorably to someone criticizing their parenting.
- 3 min
Meeting the In-Laws and the 'Gay Till Dad Dies' Sitcom Pitch
#Stories about his fiancée's Greek family's reaction to their relationship and age gap, followed by a joke pitch for a sitcom called 'Gay Till Dad' about Chris waiting for his father to die before coming out.
8moments
- 43:00Tim asks what the fiancé's father, an Italian doctor from Long Island, thought when he first saw Tim.
- 43:24The dad made jokes about Tim, including yelling that the daughter should ask her boyfriend to try on a dress.
- 43:43Early on there were rough seas with the family because they weren't familiar with comedy, but things smoothed out over time.
- 44:05Tim mentions he's 14 years older than his fiancée and that he met her Greek family at a Greek comic show.
- 44:23Tim describes his ideal scenario: walking into Janus's wedding and catching him giving his gay older brother a blowjob.
- 44:46The premise involves Chris getting excited on Grindr whenever his dad almost dies, then having to back off when he miraculously recovers.
- 45:09Tim pivots to asking whether Trump will win in 2020 and whether the entertainment business can survive if he does.
- 45:22Tim wonders where comedy and entertainment go if Trump gets reelected and how things could get crazier than they already are.
- 2 min
Trump 2020 Would Be Good for Comedians
#Prediction that a Trump re-election would push audiences back toward uncensored comedy clubs, plus an argument that the left's obsession with identity politics doesn't match Trump's actual diverse voter base.
5moments
- 45:31Tim argues Trump's reelection would be good for comedians because people will be desperate to laugh at anything forbidden.
- 46:16The left has lost their mind, and Trump may win reelection despite legal troubles because of it.
- 46:44Tim criticizes Democratic messaging focused on "woman, POC" as identity-based stuff that means nothing to regular people.
- 47:00Jordan Peterson's audiences are far more diverse than Democrats assume—much more so than a Brooklyn comedy show.
- 47:23Democrats live in delusion about Trump voters: the majority were white women, Latinos voted around 40%, and he's popular with Black voters now.
- 5 min
The Puerto Rican Trump Voter and the Funeral Home Guy
#Story about his daughter's Puerto Rican grandfather being a proud, vocal Trump voter, followed by an extended story about an old-school Italian funeral home owner giving a discount and a MAGA pin to a deceased Trump supporter.
10moments
- 48:02Tim assumed his daughter's Puerto Rican father would never have voted for Trump, then was stunned to hear him say he voted for him and was happy about it.
- 48:37The father's reasoning: all politicians lie, but at least Trump is entertaining.
- 49:08At the funeral home on 4th Avenue in Brooklyn, Tim and Jasmine asked the owner to negotiate prices for the father's funeral.
- 49:19The funeral home owner immediately clarified that this is Park Slope, not a Puerto Rican funeral home in Sunset Park.
- 49:51The owner had a cappuccino machine sitting next to a body and offered them both cappuccinos.
- 50:08When Jasmine mentioned her father voted for Trump, the funeral home owner's eyes filled with tears and he became very happy.
- 50:32The owner revealed he had a family in the day before—hippy dippies—who complained about Trump being bad for the country.
- 50:54He challenged them to name one thing Trump hasn't done that's amazing for the country, offered them a free funeral, and they paid full price instead.
- 51:21He snuck a little Make America Great Again pin into the casket with the father's body.
- 52:03Despite his inflammatory statements, the owner gave Jasmine a 20% discount on the total funeral cost and came across as charming.
- 4 min
Charismatic Extremists and the Russian Mob's Soulless Eyes
#Riff comparing charismatic dictators and clerics to salesmen, then a shift into a local Brooklyn photographer's mafia-adjacent message and warnings about the coldness of Russian mob guys versus Italian mafia honor codes.
9moments
- 52:28Passion sells seats regardless of whether the cause is good or bad.
- 52:50The fiancée's family are Trump supporters with a Make America hat in the kitchen.
- 53:08Tim's father, an old New Yorker, dismissed Trump as a crook before the election.
- 53:22Learning history as an adult reveals that atrocities have been universal across civilizations and groups.
- 53:45Africans enslaved Africans and Native Americans enslaved other Native Americans before European colonization.
- 54:19Teenagers in Syria don't care about gender-neutral bathrooms when they just want basic facilities.
- 54:42They had an episode featuring an author who wrote a book about the Russian mob and Mark Gagliotti.
- 55:04A local Brooklyn photographer messaged Tim asking to photograph him before he becomes too famous, hinting at mob connections.
- 55:45Russian kids are dangerous and will hurt you, even cutting off fingers over small debts of ten dollars.
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- 4 min
The Man Thrown Off the Boat
#Story about his aunt receiving anonymous cash payments for 15 years after her husband's mafia-related murder, followed by a story of bartending on a Russian mob party boat where a man was thrown overboard into the Hudson and no one cared.
10moments
- 55:55Scandinavians from cold climates have no souls despite beautiful eyes, shaped by centuries of atheism.
- 56:15Real mafia people only hurt you if they have a reason; the wannabes are the dangerous ones.
- 56:59Modern Italian mafia operates through online gambling sites and has relocated to Staten Island.
- 57:20Russians are far more dangerous than the Italian mafia and genuinely should not be crossed.
- 58:04Tim used to bartend on boats and his ex-girlfriend's father was a boat captain.
- 58:38A Russian party boat in the Hudson River where Tim worked as bartender had an unauthorized bartender trying to take over.
- 59:08A fight broke out on the boat, and one of the Russian guys threw another man overboard into the Hudson River at 1 a.m. in March.
- 59:29The party organizer refused to stop the boat or call the coast guard, saying the thrown man would swim home and the party should continue.
- 59:57The incident never made the news because it was internal to the Russian community and the victim probably wasn't a U.S. citizen.
- 1:00:11Nobody cared about what happened to the man thrown off the boat—even the boat captain accepted it as necessary.
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- 2 min
Growing Up Near Mafia Royalty on Long Island
#Stories about real mafia figures from his hometown (the Sopranos inspiration Vinny Ocean Palermo, Goodfellas connections) and a childhood memory of an old mob boss serving him ribs and mocking his father.
6moments
- 1:00:29Tim grew up on Long Island near Vinny Palermo, the real-life mobster The Sopranos is based on.
- 1:00:50Goodfellas figures like Henry Hill and Paulie also lived in Island Park, and Tim's father played music at mob-run clubs.
- 1:01:10At a mansion in East Quogue, Tim's father instructed him to eat whatever was served without complaint.
- 1:01:26An old mobster in a velour suit asked Tim if he liked cheeseburgers, and Tim said he preferred ribs.
- 1:01:44The mobster had someone bring out an entire cooler of ribs and threw them on the barbecue because Tim knew what he wanted.
- 1:02:06Tim realized the mobster respected his directness and contrasted it with his father's weakness, questioning whether he could respect his dad again.
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- 7 min
The Old-Money Families Who Actually Run the World
#Long discussion about generational wealth families like the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers, their emotional coldness and secrecy, referencing HBO's Succession, and how the ultra-wealthy view celebrity culture as beneath them.
11moments
- 1:02:42Tim contrasts Irish Catholic families who lead with emotion against old-money families who operate through calculation and restraint.
- 1:03:25As a child at his uncle's restaurant, Tim's father casually pointed out people living in townhouses by Central Park and said they run the world.
- 1:03:50Old-money families don't lead with emotion and don't marry strictly for love, which is part of why they maintain power across generations.
- 1:04:17These families don't care about being famous and operate comfortably in the shadows, unlike celebrities whose lives dominate tabloids and media.
- 1:04:54Wealthy families push their children into politics, then leverage their public-sector positions to benefit private-sector interests.
- 1:05:22Tim argues that HBO's Succession accurately depicts how old-money families operate in ways that seem alien to normal people.
- 1:05:40F. Scott Fitzgerald's quote captures the difference: the rich are soft where ordinary people are hard, and cynical where others are trusting.
- 1:06:32These families regard celebrities as beneath them—they would never want their children to become actors or marry into entertainment.
- 1:07:50According to someone Tim knows on the inside, these families are actually boring and dull in person, which is precisely how they stay rich and powerful.
- 1:08:48Old-money elites view ordinary people as ants and are comfortable making non-democratic deals to get things done without obstruction.
- 1:09:18Tim dated a wealthy woman briefly, but her family didn't approve and she refused to visit Queens, treating poor neighborhoods as abstract concepts rather than real places.
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- 3 min
Wrap-up plugging History Hyenas podcast, Comedy Central, tour dates, and rate/review requests, ending with plans to do a joint episode on the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers.
8moments
- 1:10:03Find the show on SoundCloud, Patreon (Bay Ridge Boys), and Instagram (@history_hyenas).
- 1:10:16The special is available on Comedy Central, cc.com, and the Comedy Central app.
- 1:10:26Tim has upcoming tour dates: LA for February, Boston, Mohegan Sun, and more in spring at Timndylandcomedy.com.
- 1:10:42Guests agree to come back and do the podcast, planning to start having regular guests.
- 1:10:54They book an episode about wealthy historical figures, settling on the Vanderbilts and Rockefeller for discussion.
- 1:11:13Focus will be on Gilded Age New York City millionaires: JP Morgan, the Vanderbilts, Rockefeller, and their immense power.
- 1:11:43Cornelius Vanderbilt started as a street fighter at the docks where people bet on his matches before buying ships and dominating railroads.
- 1:12:03Rockefeller was also a gangster—his father abandoned the family, and when the government tried breaking up Standard Oil as a monopoly, Rockefeller and his associates laughed it off.
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