Episode 109 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era

The Middle Of The End

Aug 16, 2018 · 1:15:11 · 20 segments, 145 moments indexed

Tonight's Schedule20 segments · 145 moments
  1. 0:001 min

    Cold Open / Music Intro

    #Station Break

    Show opening music and title announcement introducing Tim Dillon and Ray Kump.

    2moments
    • 0:08Show opening: Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump
    • 0:22Tim welcomes audience back to New York City with Ray Kump as co-host
  2. 0:223 min

    Chicago's Al's Cheeseburger and Ray Kump's Podcast Absence

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    Tim recaps his Chicago trip, plugging Zany's, the Burr Cast, Adam Carolla, and Doug Loves Movies appearances, then raves at length about a legendary cheeseburger at Al Shevall, debating steamed buns, dumbwaiters, and diner mechanics with Ray.

    5moments
    • 1:28Al's in Chicago serves the best cheeseburger Tim's ever had.
    • 1:40Steaming the buns is crucial—without it on a fish filet, you ruin the whole thing.
    • 1:54Al Shavall is a gastropub-style bar with dark wood and a three-to-four-hour wait.
    • 2:42If you really want something, get rid of your friends—go alone and skip the wait entirely.
    • 3:08A party of six shouldn't slow down someone getting the best burger in the country.

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  3. 3:403 min

    Go Alone: The Philosophy of Solo Dining and Teenage Weed Circles

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    Tim argues everyone should ditch their friends and go everywhere alone, riffs on roving packs of Bushwick bros, then drifts into nostalgic stories about smoking weed as a teenager in big groups versus small ones, and his friend's mom's Boone's Farm wine trick.

    8moments
    • 3:51Tim ate the best burger he's ever had at a Chicago restaurant — Dijonaise sauce, American cheese, thick-cut bacon, and an egg on a perfect bun.
    • 4:42Going alone to do anything you want is essential; having to travel in huge groups is a red flag for a person.
    • 5:06He sat at the bar alone and struck up a conversation with another solo diner, which was nice.
    • 5:17Roving packs of eight to ten young white men in Brooklyn and Williamsburg are a new phenomenon that Tim never experienced at that age.
    • 5:48At 13 or 14, Tim walked around in big groups, got weed, and realized everybody wanted to smoke it all at once.
    • 6:15With eight people and one or two blunts in a cipher, each person only gets to smoke twice before it's gone.
    • 6:29Tim's opposite problem when younger: too few people passing a bowl in a car on Long Island meant he was smoking way too much, too frequently.
    • 6:47Tim used to go into a heart attack space from smoking and now can't smoke at all without getting a panic attack.

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  4. 6:596 min

    Colin Jost, Comedy Envy, and the French Revolution That Isn't Coming

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    Tim defends Colin Jost against online hatred over the Popular Movie Oscar comments, then expands into a long rant about failed comedians and entertainers who resent successful people, arguing the resentment is pure envy dressed up as social justice.

    13moments
    • 7:01Tim explains how he wrecked his life with cocaine and other substances for many years.
    • 7:31Parents used to tell you how to do drugs correctly, but that doesn't exist anymore because of Nancy Reagan.
    • 7:58Tim expresses constant shock at the sheer volume of demons in the entertainment business who hate more successful people.
    • 8:36Colin Jost is one of the kindest and most generous people Tim has met, and paid him extra money when hosting at Caroline's.
    • 9:02People attack Colin Jost for being Harvard-educated, white, and wealthy, but Tim argues they're just mad about his career and relationship with Scarlett Johansson.
    • 9:48This is not the French Revolution—the wealthy and Harvard people are going to win because they control every industry.
    • 10:24Tim dismisses the idea that angry people can accomplish anything, asking what a fat person from Portland throwing an egg at Time Warner Center would actually do.
    • 10:42Tim wishes he didn't like comedy because of the vile people he has to surround himself with in the entertainment industry.
    • 11:18People who half-hate Tim know he does the job and they don't, which is what they fear about him.
    • 11:49Blaming the system for lack of achievement gives people an excuse to not do anything with their lives.
    • 12:02Tim questions who forced anyone to become a comedian—nobody's parents recommended going to open mics to talk about their genitals.
    • 12:38If people were motivated by anything other than resentment and self-interest, they'd criticize comedians the way comedy should be held accountable in society.
    • 13:07You can only criticize privilege if you're not the failed version of someone else trying to achieve the same thing.

    Colin JostZany'sScarlett JohanssonNancy Reagan

  5. 13:133 min

    Dean Cain's Net Worth and Zany's Drunken Crowds

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    Tim jokes about wanting Dean Cain's post-Superman career and net worth, then describes the volatile, whiskey-fueled energy of performing for a drunk Midwest crowd at Zany's in Chicago.

    7moments
    • 13:18Tim describes how insecure people get one compliment about their stage performance and spend a decade chasing acceptance from Hollywood figures they claim to despise.
    • 13:55Tim refuses to argue with entertainers online because they're not real and constantly shift positions—citing how Bob Mueller went from whistleblower prosecutor to Republic-saving hero depending on the trending narrative.
    • 14:32Tim suggests Dean Cain has had an amazing career and says he would trade net worth with him, then asks someone to look up Dean Cain's actual net worth.
    • 15:06Dean Cain's net worth comes back at six million dollars, and Tim acknowledges it's a respectable number.
    • 15:24Tim recalls performing at Zany's in Chicago and notes the Midwest crowds are genuinely drunk with a distinct energy—whiskey in the air, sweat, animal spirits, angry but having fun.
    • 15:41Drunken crowds want comedians to turn on a dime, shifting tone and subject instantly to keep them engaged.
    • 15:58Tim describes the dynamic as keeping a room of drunk people at bay only through the force of your humor, preventing them from completely coming apart.

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  6. 16:056 min

    Chicago Food Tour: Cake Shakes, Deep Dish, and Portillo's Mayo Cake

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    An extended riff on Midwestern eating culture — the meat-and-potatoes mining-town origins of Chicago food, Portillo's beef dip and mayonnaise chocolate cake blended into a milkshake, and a long debate with Ray over their respective favorite milkshakes (Carvel vanilla crunchy vs. 31 Below).

    11moments
    • 16:13Tim compares comedy to waving meat at a junkyard dog—if you drop the steak, the audience attacks.
    • 16:54Every food in Chicago is designed to try to kill somebody.
    • 17:28Chicago's heavy food originated from miners and factory workers needing hearty meals in brutal winters, but nobody changed their diet when the mines closed.
    • 18:08Portillo's beef dip sandwich is so rich you finish it thinking you're going to die.
    • 18:19Portillo's chocolate cake contains mayonnaise as a secret ingredient, mixed in so you'd never know unless they told you.
    • 18:58The mayo cake glistens in an uncomfortable way that actually confirms the mayonnaise is in there.
    • 19:23Tim describes Portillo's most popular item: pulverizing a slice of mayo chocolate cake into a chocolate shake.
    • 19:51Drinking the mayo cake shake means you're essentially drinking mayonnaise.
    • 20:54Tim's favorite milkshake is vanilla from Carvel with chocolate syrup and crunchy cookie swirl.
    • 22:13Tim can't get past the idea of hunks of actual cake going down his throat while drinking the cake shake.
    • 22:32After the cake shakes, Chicago's deep dish pizza awaits.

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  7. 22:346 min

    Giordano's Deep Dish and Chicago Dogs vs. Local Delis

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    Tim details the absurd 45-minute wait and appetizer binge required to eat Giordano's stuffed deep dish pizza, compares it to a Chicago dog, and argues against fetishizing low-end regional food like pizza and deli sandwiches.

    9moments
    • 22:38Chicagoans debate deep-dish pizza places like Giordano's versus Fatty Del Vecchio's as if they're different, when they're all the same greasy pie.
    • 23:27Chicago deep-dish takes 45 minutes to bake, and customers fill the wait by eating appetizers—garlic bread, mozzarella sticks—consuming the pizza's ingredients before the pizza arrives.
    • 24:21Tim had two slices of deep-dish at a Chicago pizzeria with a local opener and felt sick; the pizza's so massive you can't order a small or eat it alone.
    • 25:26Chicago dogs are just New York street dogs on a poppy seed bun with tomatoes and peppers—not particularly distinctive.
    • 26:11Tim refuses to fetishize low-end food; pizza is good in many places and varies widely, so people should stop getting emotional about which city has the best.
    • 26:46A Sporkful podcast guy who used to work at WNYC reached out to do a food episode, then told Tim upfront that WNYC doesn't matter anymore.
    • 27:31At WNYC, everyone's obsessed with identity politics instead of actual food; they pulled the food guy for discussing meatballs and pickle-in-tartar-sauce while the staff was dealing with real issues.
    • 27:53Tim agreed to do the podcast at Arty's South Shore Fish, a fresh fish market in Island Park where he grew up.
    • 28:17Tim's talent agent at WMA quit without being replaced, so he asked for a new one; they barely send him auditions and suggest he could play mechanics or work greasy-food gigs.

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  8. 28:583 min

    The Sporkful Podcast Disaster at Artie's South Shore Fish

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    Tim recounts a chaotic food podcast recording with a host from The Sporkful, including a fake new talent agent call, a closed restaurant, and the host demanding he 're-do' natural reactions for the mic.

    5moments
    • 29:05A guy pulls up to the closed restaurant and immediately asks Tim to start recording instead of accepting the closure.
    • 29:48Tim objects to doing a podcast scene again, saying it's not a reality show with a production crew.
    • 30:09The Sporkful host keeps asking Tim to describe the scene while Tim loses patience over the simple fact that the restaurant is closed.
    • 30:56Tim clarifies he likes the guy but questions the concept of keeping microphones on while eating to let listeners hear them chew clams.
    • 31:29Tim acknowledges that audiences want to experience the meal through the host, though in practice it feels wacky.
  9. 31:426 min

    Gas Digital Interns and Long Island Seafood with Mic Etiquette

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    Tim continues the food podcast story at the backup seafood restaurant, riffs on the young Gas Digital staff wasting their prime years, jokes about his old movie's foam-sword pizza sponsorship, and complains about the host keeping mics on during dinner.

    12moments
    • 32:46Gas Digital interns are in the most important years of their lives while their peers intern at Goldman Sachs, and Tim hopes the network succeeds for them.
    • 33:21The intern wouldn't turn off his microphone before sitting down at the restaurant, keeping it on like he owned the place.
    • 33:49Long Island has a general vibe where people ask 'what are you, a fucking cop?' and don't want mics in their face.
    • 34:15Tim tried doing a full podcast with Mike Racine that didn't work, though people love the older episodes.
    • 34:42Stop asking for people to bring things back—the new Arrested Development on Netflix is garbage, but the original is still his favorite show.
    • 35:01Tim called his talent agent asking why he wasn't considered for Love Simon, a movie about a good-looking gay guy falling in love with a Black Jewish kid.
    • 35:27Guy Berman joked back that nobody would believe they had been to Europe after Tim pitched a remake with both of them.
    • 35:50Ray Kump is doing more Instagram content and bought a green screen to shoot one-minute rant videos.
    • 36:22Nick Mullen found a 90s Twin Towers background image and sent it to Ray for the green screen setup.
    • 36:56Tim is lost with social media strategy and genuinely doesn't know how to navigate it properly.
    • 37:06People are messaging Tim with unsolicited content ideas and documentary proposals he doesn't want.
    • 37:20Someone pitched a documentary called 'Charles Feel: The Untold Story' claiming to tell the real truth.

    Ray KumpGaS DigitalArrested DevelopmentGuy BranumMike RacineMullenLove Simon

  10. 37:291 min

    Talent Agent Woes and the Love, Simon Snub

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    Tim complains about his ineffective new talent agent, jokes about being passed over for gay romantic lead roles like Love, Simon, and riffs with Guy Branham about a hypothetical remake pitch.

    3moments
    • 37:30Tim describes needing help from people who know him, acknowledging he's raw talent that needs to be massaged by someone who figures things out.
    • 37:43On the cab ride to the studio, Tim rode with an Israeli man and started asking about Israel.
    • 37:58Tim says he loves Mossad, then immediately hedges and says he's not sure he wants to officially say that on air.

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  11. 38:032 min

    Ray's Instagram Push and Social Media Confusion

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    Ray plugs his growing Instagram presence and new green screen setup with a Twin Towers background gag; Tim admits total confusion about how to work social media and jokingly begs for help while mocking spam DMs.

    4moments
    • 38:08Mossad's track record: capturing Adolf Eichmann from Argentina by kidnapping him during a night operation, drugging him, disguising him as flight crew.
    • 39:07Tim describes the mechanics of the Eichmann extraction—Mossad operatives posed as a cargo flight crew, tracked his routine, and ambushed him in the street.
    • 39:41After the capture, Israel gave Eichmann a show trial before hanging him, contrasting with how the U.S. handled similar situations.
    • 40:02Paul Bremer in Iraq exemplified American imperial messaging—claiming not to colonize while sending a suited white guy to run the country.

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  12. 40:137 min

    Mossad, Eichmann, and America's Clumsy Regime-Change Playbook

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    Prompted by a cab conversation about Israel, Tim details the Mossad's operation to capture Adolf Eichmann in Argentina, contrasts it with America's bumbling interventions (Paul Bremer in Iraq, Kermit Roosevelt in Iran), and cites Chomsky on Israeli lobbying power versus Russian interference claims.

    10moments
    • 40:26America's regime-change model relies on buying off generals and circus strongmen, which always fails
    • 41:01Noam Chomsky argued the Israeli lobby has more influence over U.S. politics than Russia does
    • 41:44Chris Hedges and other anti-war figures have spent decades warning about escalating global instability
    • 42:27America will embrace fascism as unemployment rises and conditions deteriorate
    • 43:00QAnon believers think a Trump insider is leaking coded messages that need to be deciphered by fans
    • 43:41QAnon followers believe Guantanamo Bay stays open so Trump can imprison Obama and Hillary for human trafficking
    • 44:02The fact that people take Alex Jones seriously signals the end of something, whether collapse comes in 50 years or sooner
    • 44:42Across the political spectrum, people operate outside logic with conspiracy theories they can't reason through
    • 45:06Technology's impact on human cognition over the past decade is fundamentally unknowable and unprecedented
    • 46:09Tim believes the CIA and NSA committed documented atrocities, though the full extent remains unclear

    Alex JonesQAnonChris HedgesNoam ChomskyBarack ObamaHillary ClintonDonald Trump

  13. 46:497 min

    QAnon, Alex Jones, and the Collapse of Shared Reality

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    Tim lays out his views on conspiracy theories — skepticism of QAnon's 'storm' mythology, support for Alex Jones having a platform despite disagreeing with him, and a broader argument that modern technology has destroyed people's ability to reason, illustrated by tracking down old drug-using acquaintances now posting QAnon content.

    11moments
    • 46:51Tim looks up old drug-using acquaintances from his childhood and finds them deep into QAnon conspiracies with Trump and American flag profile pictures.
    • 47:54The former housemates are obsessed with QAnon drops, waiting for "the storm" that never arrives.
    • 48:21Tim knows the actual history of these people—drug users living in rooms—making it impossible for them to be nostalgic for a better past they never had.
    • 48:35People who believe in an idyllic 1950s vision ignore the reality: cops beating people, inflation, propaganda.
    • 49:03Nostalgia for youth isn't about the era; it's just about being young, which everyone was once.
    • 49:33Modern systems—education, employment, credit—create a flattening of individuality; you don't encounter real characters anymore because they can't survive now.
    • 50:11Being a drifter or hobo has become harder and more dangerous; cops are more aggressive now, and everyone's on the grid with cameras everywhere.
    • 50:36Tim contrasts writing bad checks in diners to the insanity of people getting mortgages they can't afford by lying about their income to banks.
    • 51:22A mortgage applicant can claim projected future income with nothing backing it and face no fraud consequences if they can't pay and the bank forecloses.
    • 52:24Tim performs a predatory mortgage refinancing pitch, complete with irrelevant small talk about local stabbing deaths and offers to split Percocets.
    • 53:36Tim tells a younger friend cryptic, depressing messages in LA about the world only getting worse, framing reality as fundamentally collapsing.

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  14. 54:051 min

    Ray from Premier Equities: A Mock Mortgage Refinance Call

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    A comedic bit where Tim voices a sleazy Long Island mortgage broker character cold-calling a homeowner about refinancing, riffing on rashes, Percocet, and disability.

    3moments
    • 54:08Tim on generational poverty and the family system: there's no one guiding us, no map to teach kids how to make it better.
    • 54:21You can't rebuild integrity in society when moral decay steeps into the culture.
    • 54:32People don't care about truth on either side — the left ridicules conspiracy theories that don't fit their narrative, the right embellishes ones that do.

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  15. 54:477 min

    Nobody Cares About Truth: The Death of Rational Discourse

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    Tim expands into a bleak assessment that neither side of the political spectrum actually cares about truth, using dubious conspiracy stories (a poisoned 9/11 witness, a Buffalo plane crash) and comparing conspiracy fandom to being into obscure punk bands, before questioning whether this is the beginning or middle of societal collapse.

    11moments
    • 55:09Tim argues that the real story of the Federal Reserve is more interesting and bureaucratic than secret society conspiracy narratives.
    • 55:28All the information about systemic corruption and inequality is already publicly available in congressional records and paper trails.
    • 56:04When people reveal the truth, they don't get killed—they're ignored because nobody actually cares.
    • 56:35Tim discusses a story about someone who supposedly met 9/11 hijackers before the attacks and suspects his family was poisoned.
    • 57:25Conspiracy theorists throw multiple implausible stories at the wall to see what sticks, like a band of friends desperate to seem punk in eighth grade.
    • 57:53People want conspiracy knowledge so they have something to discuss at dinner parties and seem ahead of the curve.
    • 58:20Tim believes nobody on either side actually cares about the truth, making the whole endeavor depressing and pointless.
    • 59:06We're in the middle of the end, not the beginning, with economic and media trends deteriorating over the past 20 years.
    • 59:51The economy isn't stable regardless of which president is in office; the system is fundamentally vulnerable.
    • 1:01:38Tim speculates that space exploration exists because the U.S. defense budget has maxed out destroying targets on Earth.
    • 1:01:53The arc of expanding military spending requires conquering new territory off-planet to justify continued escalation.

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  16. 1:01:595 min

    Space Force as the Next Great Grift

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    Tim connects economic fragility (China/Russia dumping treasury bonds) to a prediction that Space Force will become the next massive defense-contractor fraud, joking about sleeper cells on the sun and QAnon's space colonization theories, then laments that conspiracy theorizing has become mainstream and boring.

    10moments
    • 1:02:03Tim predicts false flags are coming, claiming they'll be amateurish with green people in suits running around.
    • 1:02:25Raytheon and similar companies got bored selling terrestrial missiles and wanted to pivot to space.
    • 1:02:35Tim imagines a future Trump Jr. administration claiming sleeper cells exist in the sun to justify shooting missiles at it.
    • 1:02:48The Space Force represents the next phase of total outright fraud because no one can effectively challenge its spending.
    • 1:03:06When billions are wasted on Space Force, defense contractors just claim the work is classified and great.
    • 1:03:22Defense contractors can show pictures of anything from movies and people wouldn't know if it's real or from the moon.
    • 1:03:32QAnon probably advocates for Space Force because he's convinced pedophiles are running Jupiter under Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
    • 1:03:52Tim used to enjoy discussing conspiracies but now finds it difficult because true believers won't engage with skepticism.
    • 1:05:24The country works because most people don't have strong political opinions; forcing everyone into politics creates radical groups.
    • 1:05:56People form opinions from Twitter posts and funny videos rather than reading books and doing actual research.

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  17. 1:06:393 min

    Who Is America's Billy Wayne Ruddick and the 1% Math Bit

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    Tim and Ray discuss Sacha Baron Cohen's Who Is America, focusing on the Billy Wayne Ruddick character's interview with Bernie Sanders, and they play the clip of Ruddick's nonsensical math argument about moving everyone into the 1%.

    8moments
    • 1:07:00Tim brings up Billy Wayne Ruddick's Bernie Sanders interview as an example of how easily politicians fall for absurd premises.
    • 1:07:32Bernie Sanders makes his standard pitch about the top 0.1% owning as much as the bottom 90%.
    • 1:07:46Ruddick proposes moving the entire population into the 1% instead of complaining about wealth inequality.
    • 1:07:56Bernie attempts to explain basic math—that if everyone is in the 1%, it no longer exists by definition.
    • 1:08:20Ruddick insists it's simple math: if you have 1% and move the 9s around, you get 19%, then 100%.
    • 1:08:31Ruddick cites the International Institute of Scientific Truth and Knowledge as proof his equality proposal works.
    • 1:08:49Ruddick's final pitch: keep the 1% wealthy, but move the 99% into that same 1% category.
    • 1:09:03Bernie admits he has no idea what Ruddick is talking about.

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  18. 1:09:171 min

    Michelle Wolf Would've Been a Tour Guide

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    Tim riffs that Sacha Baron Cohen and Michelle Wolf are comic geniuses who would have been terrible if they'd ended up in ordinary jobs like his own tour-guide background.

    3moments
    • 1:09:23Tim describes someone he worked with as a comic genius who would excel at whatever he did.
    • 1:09:35Tim says electing talented comedians into office ruins them.
    • 1:09:55Tim contrasts Wolf's background—she wasn't giving directions to salami sandwiches; she was doing actual things.
  19. 1:10:023 min

    Tour Dates, Bus Tour, and Sign-Off Housekeeping

    #Station Break

    Tim and Ray run through social media handles, upcoming shows in Lexington and Toronto, the New York bus tour ticket alert system, merch, podcast subscriptions, and Ray's guest appearances on other shows.

    7moments
    • 1:10:07Tim urges listeners to follow his Twitter account (TimJDillon) because everyone has more followers and it makes him look bad.
    • 1:10:31Pilot shoot scheduled for end of August; September tour returning to Canada for a festival in Toronto.
    • 1:11:38Sign up for email list on TimDillaComedy.com to get 24-hour alert before tickets go on sale; shows sell out with only about 55 seats available.
    • 1:11:58Ray appeared on Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli, Ryan's Great Podcast (airing Thursday), and Hot Mess Comedy Hour with Andrea Allen and Emily Lubin.
    • 1:12:26Ray's also been on Bertcast, Adam Carolla Show, and Doug Loves Movies—listeners should check those out.
    • 1:12:55Merchandise available including 'Tim Dillon Is Going to Hell' shirt with new designs coming for fall.
    • 1:13:12Planning to paint new pieces; pricing for potential original artwork sales to be determined based on what the market will bear.

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  20. 1:13:162 min

    Tim's Morgue Paintings and the Decomp Taco Bell Craving

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    Tim describes his morbid paintings for sale, then tells a closing story about craving a Taco Bell bean burrito right after his first exposure to a decomposing body at the morgue, comparing the burrito's insides to the corpse.

    3moments
    • 1:13:40Tim describes a morgue painting: a bleeding woman with bugs, featuring a McChicken sandwich falling into a cadaver's hand.
    • 1:14:12Tim reflects on how quickly people adapt to horrible environments, even ones with overwhelming smells.
    • 1:14:26Opening a green bean burrito reveals the same red and brown colors as a decomposing body's interior.

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