Episode 183 · The Ben Avery Era
#183 - Tim Does The Tonight Show | The Tim Dillon Show
Jan 19, 2020 · 1:16:10 · 175,000 views · 17 segments, 138 moments indexed
Tim recaps his experience at Infowars in Austin, TX.
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An opening jingle/bit voiced as a talking trash can character urging people to put their trash in the can, playing as cold open music/sketch before the show proper starts.
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- Tim introduces himself as Timmy the Trashcan and expresses his love of trash
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Live From Austin, Fresh Off Infowars
#Tim explains they're recording without video due to the new Austin studio still being built and recounts just walking out of an hour appearance on Infowars with Alex Jones, describing Ben's childlike excitement at being inside the building.
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- Tim announces the show is live from Austin, Texas, but clarifies there's no video because a studio is being built.
- Just left Infowars after doing an hour with Alex Jones—Ben's childhood dream and "Disney world."
- Ben wandered around Infowars like a kid at Magic Kingdom, looking for coffee and getting pitched on fish oil pills.
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Ben and Tim reflect on how surreal it was to go from watching Infowars on a laptop to being interviewed by Alex Jones himself, comparing it to watching Rogan's rise, and discussing how future generations will look back on this media era.
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- Tim and Alex Jones got along famously when they met in Austin through Joe Rogan.
- Meeting Alex Jones in person after watching him for years felt surreal but not shocking—Tim had seen his face so many times.
- Tim reflects on how future generations will look back on this era the way we look back on 2009, trying to understand what was actually happening with Trump, Alex Jones's banned news network, and Joe Rogan's podcast.
- Tim started listening to Alex Jones in the late 1990s on Genesis Communications Network, back when he was railing against NAFTA as a populist.
- Tim remembers watching Alex Jones's Bohemian Grove documentary and coming back to him periodically over the years.
- Tim calls Alex Jones the most entertaining person on the planet and refuses to back off from that, describing him as transfixing to watch.
- As a performer with decades of experience—since age six—Tim identifies Alex Jones as a master performer when he's at his best.
- Tim got really deep into Alex Jones when he was getting banned from platforms.
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Ben traces his history of listening to Alex Jones back to the late '90s pre-9/11 radio days on GCN, through the Loose Change documentary era, his shift into MAGA populism, the platforming/deplatforming saga, and the horrific harassment of Sandy Hook families that followed.
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- Tim recalls Alex Jones around 2010 as a guy showing up to 9/11 events with a bullhorn, promoting loose change and talking about Bush and the Carlyle Group.
- Conservatives actually hated Alex Jones back then; he was loathed by both right and left, liked only by a very small group.
- Questioning 9/11 has become more acceptable now, especially after Epstein and similar revelations.
- When Obama got elected, Alex became more of a right-wing populist by necessity, since he was anti-establishment no matter who was in power.
- Everything changed when Alex became a Trump fan; he went from being outside the establishment to openly supporting and having Trump on his show.
- People started seeing Alex differently after he picked Trump's side and became a cheerleader for him instead of remaining purely anti-establishment.
- The Sandy Hook fallout began; Tim acknowledges not watching at the time and only knowing the repercussions, where families suffered unforgivable and criminal things.
- Big Tech essentially unpersoned Alex—removing all his social media, restricting his bank accounts, and cutting off his ability to earn income, all overnight without warning.
- Tim got into Alex Jones through Patrice O'Neal, Hicks, and Stanhope, discovering a 2005 interview about the Bilderbergs and Bohemian Grove when exploring comedians who questioned everything.
- Tim always saw Alex as an entertainer and funny guy rather than a politician; he stopped paying attention and didn't learn about Sandy Hook until the repercussions started coming down.
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Tim explains why he didn't spring Alex Jones on Ben as a total surprise, they discuss Alex's ability to speak extemporaneously for long stretches (and how that gets him in trouble), and they recall a webcam guy in the green room hyping up a Richmond Virginia 'free speech rally.'
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- Tim explains he considered surprising Alex by flying him to Cap City without warning, but decided against it.
- The reason he didn't blindside Alex: he wanted the appearance to be a genuine gift, not an unfair ambush on live television.
- Tim describes Alex Jones as a moderate in his own world, someone who believes in pedophile cults and lizard people rather than white ethnostates.
- Alex Jones is such an entertaining broadcaster that he can speak extemporaneously for hours, which is exactly how he gets into trouble.
- When you're riffing off the dome in the conspiracy space talking about things that may or may not be true, getting in trouble is inevitable.
- In the green room they watched a webcam broadcaster cover the Richmond Virginia free speech rally, discussing potential violence from antifa and armed militia groups.
- The broadcaster admits on air they have none of the facts so far but have to keep talking about it regardless, then signs off.
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- 6 min
Tim reads a parody/joke ad copy written 'in his voice' for a Bachelor companion podcast called Another Bachelor Podcast, riffing on the hosts (Nick, Dylan, Pat), suicide jokes, tick-tock stars, and mocking the writers of the copy.
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- Tim reads a Bachelor podcast ad written by fans, claiming he's a comic genius and they are not.
- Season 24 of The Bachelor is more important than the impeachment trial, according to the ad copy.
- Another Bachelor Podcast features Nick with schizophrenic parents, Dylan who's Jewish, and Pat, an older man.
- The ad read actually moved the numbers and improved Pat's mental health after his podcasting buddies saved him from the bathtub.
- Rich Jewish women talking about their anatomy dominate podcasting, whether it's Girls Gotta Eat or similar shows.
- Tim encourages the three hosts, saying Nick could find a nice lady and move to the valley.
- Tim would appear on the hosts' Below Deck podcast because the show fascinates him despite not caring about the plot or characters.
- He's been performing since age six and shouldn't even be in the same room as these podcasters, but he'll do it anyway.
- Tim wants Theo to have him back on instead of booking TikTok stars like Chase Hudson and Charlie D'Amelio.
- TikTok is missing fat Irish guys who think immigration is a legitimate issue, but racist aunts will eventually fill that void.
- Tim closes by telling listeners to give these kids a chance and watch The Bachelor podcast every week.
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Tim and Ben describe the eerie, cold, high-security atmosphere of the Infowars studio, comparing the terrified editors and workers to the 'get on the floor, little piggies' hot dog scene from Succession.
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- Tim thrives when things aren't planned and he has to improvise with whatever comes his way.
- There's a dark energy in the Infowars building, though Alex himself isn't the source of it—the workers are.
- Tim couldn't do what the workers do day in and day out, constantly talking about politics no matter the side.
- The workers are afraid of Alex because he lets them have it every now and then, and they saw a glimpse of it.
- When there are no guests in the building, it's probably like the Succession scene where Brian Cox makes people crawl on the floor for hot dogs.
- That dark energy probably happens about ten minutes after Tim and Ben leave if people don't behave the right way.
- Tim and Ben got lost trying to find the prison planet room while being given a tour.
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They discuss the scale of Alex's operation and audience compared to mainstream news, his shift from anti-establishment figure to Trump cheerleader, his conspiracy beliefs about Soros and the Illuminati, and Alex repeatedly calling Ben 'Ed McMahon' on air.
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- Walking into Alex Jones's green room, which felt weirdly like a government building.
- Alex Jones is one guy who has built a following that dwarfs mainstream media news outlets.
- There's a dark energy in the studio—everyone talks about being in a war and on the edge of something terrible.
- Two little kids eating Chick-fil-A in the break room, which could have been hilarious if they'd gone on air ranting about MK-ULTRA.
- Alex Jones doesn't really get comedy but he's the funniest guy ever.
- Alex claimed Michelle Wolf bragged about killing her baby and made her feel strong, forcing Tim to fact-check him mid-interview.
- Alex insisted off-air that there's no such thing as copyright and people can play whatever they want.
- Tim agrees Alex isn't wrong that a small group of elites controls the world, but the network's focus has become explicitly political rather than conspiratorial.
- Trump is a statement that the system isn't working, emerging after decades of government corruption that sold out the middle class.
- Alex kept calling Tim Ed McMahon because he wasn't talking much during the show.
- Between every break, Tim and his co-host turned to each other asking how much fun this was—it was a thrill of a lifetime.
- Tim admits he's had more fun doing other things, but loved this experience.
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Tim wonders if Donald Trump might be watching the segment, they debate whether they can legally clip and post parts of the Infowars appearance, and land on releasing a Dropbox link via Patreon instead.
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- Tim describes Trump, Rogan, and Jones as media operations centered around one person that rival huge networks in influence.
- Wondering aloud if Donald Trump watched the interview live during the broadcast.
- Tim suspects somebody may have shown Trump the Megan McCain sketch, though he's not certain it happened.
- One big laugh during the show made Tim feel victorious, but he won't spoil which moment.
- Plan to clip the interview and distribute it via Dropbox link on Patreon to avoid YouTube strikes.
- Tim notes that having Jones on a channel is different from clipping his show and posting clips elsewhere.
- Decision: no clips anywhere except Dropbox for paying Patreon members at $5 a month.
- George Carlin quote about a big club should open the show—paying $5 a month gets you in.
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Tim delivers a sponsor read for Manscaped's Perfect Package 2.0 grooming kit, joking about trimming your balls in a Pizza Hut booth and using the promo code TIM for 20% off and free shipping.
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- Manscaped precision tools are specifically for pubic hair grooming, not to be confused with face trimmers.
- The Lawn Mower 2.0 has skin-safe technology that won't nick or snag, and it's waterproof for shower use.
- Perfect Package 2.0 comes with a razor, crop preserver, anti-chafing deodorant, moisturizer, and crop reviver to prevent sweating and sticking.
- Tim emphasizes the product works for anyone who needs to shave their genitals, regardless of gender or sex.
- The trimmer is easy to use and safe even while intoxicated, driving, or operating heavy machinery.
- It's discreet enough to use in public without drawing attention or causing accidents at places like Wendy's.
- You can trim yourself quietly in a dark Pizza Hut booth, since there are typically only two or three occupied booths anyway.
- Promo code TIM gets 20% off and free shipping at manscaped.com.
- Tim argues this is a necessary product for men and is better than the Norelco Body Groom.
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They discuss the secretive hiring process and scared editors at Infowars, Alex's protege Rex driving around Austin in an armored tank shouting through a bullhorn, and speculate about whether Alex will ever retire.
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- Tim visited Infowars and found the editors terrified and caffeinated, barely willing to make eye contact.
- Infowars employees are afraid of being caught fraternizing instead of working, suggesting extreme workplace discipline.
- Hiring at Infowars involves a secretive process where new employees are told upfront the job comes with serious baggage and downside risks.
- Rex Jones, Alex's protégé, was recently in an armored tank with Alex Jones shouting conspiracy claims through a bullhorn.
- Alex Jones and Rex Jones live-streamed from the tank on Periscope and Twitter because they're banned from every other platform.
- Tim's visit to Infowars went surprisingly well and he was pleasantly surprised by how it turned out.
- Tim believes Alex Jones will likely just keep going until he drops rather than ever retiring.
- Alex Jones appears to have stopped drinking and lost weight, seeming more sober and put-together recently.
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Tim jokes he could get hired at Infowars talking about fluoride in the water, then pivots to which major shows he'd still want to do (Stern) versus wouldn't (Rush, Fallon), noting his own beef with Fallon and belief that Ellen DeGeneres is a CIA asset.
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- Tim says he could never spend every day just talking about politics, whether for Fox, CNN, or Infowars, because he wants to make people laugh.
- The thought crosses his mind at Jones's studio that he could get a show there, maybe talking about fluoride in the water.
- Comics have gone full SJW, putting out more content canvassing for Bernie Sanders than being funny, and Tim notes he could've ended up anywhere.
- Being on Alex Jones's show was never something Tim thought would happen in his wildest dreams, but now it has.
- Tim wonders if the Jones interview will be heavily edited, joking that it might just show them nodding and giving thumbs up.
- Howard Stern is the only major platform left that Tim genuinely wants to do, since he's never had interest in late-night stand-up shows.
- Tim would do Stern and won't do Rush Limbaugh because Rush should be completely alone doing his thing.
- His guest suggests he should do mainstream stuff like Fallon now that he's done Infowars and Jones loves their comedy.
- Tim has a pinned tweet saying he thinks Fallon bit someone, which he's joked about, and he suspects Seth Meyers and Fallon will never have him on.
- Tim has tweeted that Ellen DeGeneres is in the CIA and makes an argument that there's evidence for her being an asset.
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Tim notes the oddity that the only person to interview a witness connected to Stephen Paddock (Las Vegas shooter) was Ellen DeGeneres instead of a hard news outlet, calling it suspicious.
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- The sole witness to Stephen Paddock was sent to Ellen DeGeneres instead of a news organization, which struck Tim as suspicious.
- The witness was supposed to appear on Hannity but cancelled, making Ellen the only major media figure he agreed to see.
- Tim expresses frustration about not being asked to do major TV projects and his desire to create real comedy instead of safe, mediocre material.
- Alex Jones repeatedly called Tim "Ed McMahon" during their appearance together and randomly started talking about Caddyshack.
- Tim doesn't think people care much about his appearance with Alex Jones and says they've already set audience expectations for controversial content.
- Tim credits Alex Jones for infiltrating Bohemian Grove and filming the ceremony, calling it something nobody else had the courage to do.
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Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, and Pizzagate Credibility
#Tim gives an extended riff on the Bohemian Grove owl-worship ritual Alex Jones exposed, compares it to Skull and Bones fraternity bonding among future elites, and argues Pizzagate lacks the victim evidence that makes Epstein and the Franklin scandal credible.
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- Bohemian Grove ritual with powerful men in robes chanting and sacrificing an effigy of a child at the base of a wooden owl is genuinely odd to discuss.
- Tim describes bringing up Bohemian Grove while eating Taco Bell and high with friends as a conversational move.
- Skull and Bones members messaged Tim after he discussed the society on the podcast, some creating dummy accounts and explaining the fraternity as a bonding mechanism for future leaders.
- Skull and Bones initiates no longer walk off in front of each other anymore at the initiation, which Tim identifies as the actual fun part of the ritual.
- Elite groups like Skull and Bones function as a farm team for future power players who will probably do nefarious things.
- Bohemian Grove is weirder than Skull and Bones because the people are much older and the same ritualistic principle applies at a higher level.
- Tim believes Pizzagate had a kernel of truth but lacks credibility compared to the Franklin scandal because there were no verified victims.
- Occult-themed Instagram accounts are either rich people trying to be edgy because they lack normal experiences, or something more sinister.
- Tim wonders if Hollywood's occult messaging and music videos are overtly cultish and whether they're attempting to brainwash kids.
- Much of the occult aesthetic in entertainment is people trying to be goth and interesting rather than indicative of actual darkness.
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Billy Eilish, Goth Aesthetics, and Hollywood Pedophilia Rumors
#Tim argues that goth/edgy aesthetics from artists like Billy Eilish are mostly compensation for lack of raw vocal talent compared to Ella Fitzgerald, then pivots into dark jokes about a dinner conversation guessing what percentage of Hollywood are pedophiles, and Woody Allen/Indiana Jones references.
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- Tim on Billie Eilish's voice: talented but not mind-blowing, with catchy hooks written by her brother.
- Her lyrics are deliberately edgy—"all the good girls suck Satan's dick"—but the goth aesthetic masks a lack of genuine vocal talent.
- Tim contrasts Eilish with Whitney Houston, arguing modern artists compensate for weak voices through fashion and a manufactured damaged persona.
- Real singers like Ella Fitzgerald and Janis Joplin had actual talent; modern edgy performers are just faking it.
- Woody Allen's movies obsess over relationships with young women, then his real-life behavior makes rewatching them impossible.
- Indiana Jones includes a scene where a young woman tells Indiana he shouldn't have done something to her when she was a girl—why normalize that?
- Once you start analyzing Hollywood for hidden meanings, you end up chasing conspiracy theories like Taylor Swift being in the monarch cult.
- A Hollywood executive casually estimated that about half of people in the industry are pedophiles while cutting into a steak at dinner.
- Tim acknowledges the Golden Globes have only about 60 members; most Californians work at grocery stores, not in show business.
- Yonis's exasperated response to the conversation: "What the fuck is going on?"
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Tim reflects on how far he and Ben have come since watching Infowars together while smoking cigarettes in Ben's garage two years ago, tying it to Ben's two-year sobriety anniversary and joking they'd relapse if Alex invited them back to smoke a rock.
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- Tim and Ben started out just wanting to make themselves laugh and explore areas most people had the good sense to avoid.
- Going on Alex Jones's show was the culmination of that approach—climbing as far as they could into that operation.
- Two years ago they were watching Infowars in a garage smoking cigarettes, laughing at it.
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Tim runs through upcoming tour dates in Chicago, Toronto, New York, Minnesota, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Dallas, and British Columbia, plugs the Patreon, YouTube channels, and social media, then signs off with Ben and an Infowars-style farewell.
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- Tim de la comédie con tour dates announced with upcoming shows across North America.
- Tim, Nick Mullen, and Luis Gomez planning a collaborative show in LA.
- Grand Gerard Theatre in Ontario, Canada on Valentine's Day, February 14th and 15th.
- Caroline's Comedy Club in New York, March 12th through 14th.
- Cap City show date moved from Wednesday to Thursday with tickets honored.
- House of Comedy in Dallas, April 23rd through 25th.
- House of Comedy in New Westminster, British Columbia moved to February 20th for JFL Northwest.
- All tour dates and ticket links available at TimDillonComedy.com.
- Subscribe to the Tim Dillon Show YouTube channel, not Tim's personal channel.
- Subscribe to Tim Dillon Show clips channel for short-form videos.
- Tim, Nick Mullen, and Luis Gomez planning a live podcast and stand-up show at Comedy Store main room.
- Patreon subscribers have access to 145 episode archives and 25 bonus episodes.
- Link custom RSS feed from Patreon to podcast player instead of using the Patreon app for listening.
- RSS feed link provided in Patreon page info and sent via email upon signup.
- Final sign-off from Tim Dillon, Ben Avery, and the show crew.