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Hollywood, Brennan, and Obama's CIA Capture

from Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou) · #136

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They cover the CIA's Office of Public Affairs shaping films like Argo and Zero Dark Thirty, John Brennan's partisan closeness to Obama, and how the agency 'hooks' inexperienced presidents with sensitive intelligence access.

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  • 1:31:13CIA has a dedicated office within public affairs solely to manage relationships with Hollywood studios, just as J. Edgar Hoover did with the FBI in the 1950s.
  • 1:31:49Tim brings up Argo and Zero Dark Thirty as examples of CIA-influenced films.
  • 1:32:00Tim recounts seeing Ben Affleck walk past his office door without security while working at the CIA.
  • 1:33:10The guest explains Saudi Arabia played a more instrumental role in 9/11 than previously acknowledged, and raises questions about why the CIA didn't share intelligence on Al-Midar and Al-Hazmi with the FBI.
  • 1:33:53Tim points out the intense hatred between CIA and FBI prevented information sharing, leading to 3,000 American deaths.
  • 1:34:47The CIA and FBI didn't have access to each other's databases, forcing individual officers to decide whether to share critical intelligence.
  • 1:36:15Tim asks whether John Brennan was a good director and notes his extremely close relationship with Obama.
  • 1:36:49The guest calls John Brennan one of the worst CIA directors in modern history, describing him as intensely partisan and too close to the president.
  • 1:37:30Judge Webster is cited as the model CIA director—someone with credibility and willingness to challenge presidents.
  • 1:38:25The CIA prefers inexperienced presidents because they can seduce them with highly classified information, which is exactly what happened with Obama.
  • 1:39:30John Brennan was the only intelligence official who joined Obama's 2008 campaign instead of Hillary's, positioning himself perfectly for power.
  • 1:40:34The guest describes the threat matrix as one of the biggest bullshit documents, where unvetted reports from random people claiming to have nuclear bombs get sent directly to the president.
  • 1:41:27Tim suggests CIA fear-mongering may be driven by military contractors like DynCorp and Blackwater who profit from perpetual war.
  • 1:42:02The guest agrees the U.S. has entered a permanent war-based economy where Washington insiders have grown rich on the war on terror.
  • 1:42:36Tim points to J. Edgar Hoover as the master of increasing budgets even after major FBI failures, a tactic the CIA continues today.
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John BrennanCIABarack ObamaFBIGeorge W. BushJudge WebsterSaudi ArabiaJ. Edgar HooverDynCorpBlackwaterAllen DullesHillary ClintonDonald TrumpLeon PanettaGuantanamo BayZero Dark ThirtyArgoDavid PetraeusAl MidarAl HazmiBen Affleck

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