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The Old-Money Families Who Actually Run the World
from Bay Ridge Boys · #133
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7 minLong discussion about generational wealth families like the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers, their emotional coldness and secrecy, referencing HBO's Succession, and how the ultra-wealthy view celebrity culture as beneath them.
- 1:02:42Tim contrasts Irish Catholic families who lead with emotion against old-money families who operate through calculation and restraint.
- 1:03:25As a child at his uncle's restaurant, Tim's father casually pointed out people living in townhouses by Central Park and said they run the world.
- 1:03:50Old-money families don't lead with emotion and don't marry strictly for love, which is part of why they maintain power across generations.
- 1:04:17These families don't care about being famous and operate comfortably in the shadows, unlike celebrities whose lives dominate tabloids and media.
- 1:04:54Wealthy families push their children into politics, then leverage their public-sector positions to benefit private-sector interests.
- 1:05:22Tim argues that HBO's Succession accurately depicts how old-money families operate in ways that seem alien to normal people.
- 1:05:40F. Scott Fitzgerald's quote captures the difference: the rich are soft where ordinary people are hard, and cynical where others are trusting.
- 1:06:32These families regard celebrities as beneath them—they would never want their children to become actors or marry into entertainment.
- 1:07:50According to someone Tim knows on the inside, these families are actually boring and dull in person, which is precisely how they stay rich and powerful.
- 1:08:48Old-money elites view ordinary people as ants and are comfortable making non-democratic deals to get things done without obstruction.
- 1:09:18Tim dated a wealthy woman briefly, but her family didn't approve and she refused to visit Queens, treating poor neighborhoods as abstract concepts rather than real places.
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