Interview · moment 16 of 17
Loving Complicated, Diverse, Damaged People
from The Gift · #97
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2 minGuest
Michelle explains her attraction to people with complex, painful backstories over homogenous corporate-style diversity, tying back to her fondness for Oscar the selfish cat.
- 57:06Tim defines diversity as including complexity, choices, and brains—not just color.
- 57:20Corporate diversity wants marginalized people in homogenous form: same age, same cities, same opinions on every issue.
- 57:52What draws Tim to people is interesting, potentially painful backgrounds and the complexity that comes with them.
- 58:33Guest's Instagram handle is NYLAPOP, where she posts pictures of Oscar more than other content.
- 59:01Tim explains why he appreciates Oscar: the dog doesn't care about anybody and hangs out without demanding attention.