Episode 87 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Graveyard Shift At A Bread Warehouse
Mar 13, 2018 · 1:14:27 · 19 segments, 125 moments indexed
- 1 min
Show intro music and title announcement for Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump.
2moments
- 0:04Opening credits: Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell
- 0:18Tim welcomes the audience back on Tuesday, March 6, before an incoming snowstorm
- 1 min
Snowstorm Talk and Hating Snow as an Adult
#Tim and Ray discuss the incoming snowstorm, riff on how snow is magical as a kid but disgusting as an adult, comparing it to a dirty urinal.
3moments
- 0:59Tim says he's hoping for no snow and doesn't want any.
- 1:13As a kid you want snow; as an adult you realize it's disgusting and gross.
- 1:24Snow feels like a urinal and you're just walking around in filth.
- 8 min
Cousin Bobby Lopez the EGOT Winner Who Doesn't Care About the Family
#Tim tells an extended story about his distant cousin Bobby Lopez, the EGOT-winning composer (Book of Mormon, Frozen), who is a genius but completely detached from the family; includes the Outback Steakhouse Sydney Sinful Sunday saga with his institutionalized mother, his uncle mentioning the Emmy win in an elevator, and Lopez's cold, self-serious Oscar speech.
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- 1:49Tim believes the logical endpoint of his journey is going hard into Marxism.
- 2:30He jokes that once the show ends, he's joining Antifa and throwing rocks at bankers instead of wasting time on white nationalists.
- 3:26His second or third cousin once removed is Bobby Lopez, an EGOT winner who doesn't look or act like family at all.
- 4:17Bobby wrote the music for Book of Mormon, Avenue Q, and Frozen, and won two EGOTs as the youngest in history.
- 4:36Despite all this success, none of it matters to their relationship—Bobby couldn't care less if the entire Dillon family burned to death.
- 5:38Bobby grew up in a different world, met Tim once as a child actor, and was always distant from the family.
- 6:05Tim took his mother out of the mental institution to get her Sydney Sinful Sunday at Outback, but they don't make it anymore.
- 7:29Uncle Steve shows up with Wendy's double stacks and excitedly tells Tim's mother that Bobby won the EGOT—the most irrelevant thing to tell her.
- 8:42At his EGOT acceptance speech, Bobby told his wife and daughters 'this is not for you,' making clear his accomplishments are his alone.
- 9:11Tim mocks celebrities at the Oscars calling actors by nicknames like 'Timmy' for Chalamet, pretending they're buddies.
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- 7 min
Hosting the Oscars Party at the Cinema Arts Center
#Tim and Ray recount co-hosting a live Oscar-watch party at a Huntington, Long Island indie theater, riffing on the crowd of elderly film buffs, a drunk regular seated with them, real estate sponsors, and their bad reviews of Timothy Chalamet's performance versus the discovered-on-Instagram breakout star of The Florida Project.
12moments
- 9:27Tim warns against calling celebrities by pet names on social media when you don't actually know them, using Harvey Weinstein as a cautionary example.
- 9:51He and Ray co-hosted a live Oscars party at the Cinema Arts Center in Huntington, Long Island, providing banter during commercial breaks.
- 10:23Long Island audiences mostly watch action movies like The Rock films rather than independent cinema, with explosions being the main draw.
- 11:05A local realtor at the event pitched the cinema as a community asset to help sell houses, claiming it's about more than just listing properties.
- 11:44The realtor was essentially selling the idea that homeowners could sneak away to watch art films like Call Me By Your Name during the workday.
- 12:14The Oscars party crowd was enthusiastic and raucous rather than the restrained film appreciation you'd find in New York City.
- 12:56An elderly woman who gets drunk at these events every year and annoys people was seated with Tim and Ray by organizers as a solution.
- 13:46Timothy Chalamet's performance in the film was objectively bad, though the audience went wild for him.
- 14:06Young people in this country are treated as heroes simply for existing, even when they lack genuine talent or accomplishment.
- 15:14The crowd loved shallow movies like The Shape of Water because they have nice production design and nostalgic old Hollywood elements that appeal to their sense of loss.
- 16:13Guillermo del Toro has made incompetently bad movies that audiences still eat up because they're attracted to the flashy aesthetic.
- 16:36The Florida Project was easily the best film of the year but got snubbed entirely except for Willem Dafoe's nomination.
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- 7 min
Rich Kid Actors, Miles Teller's Lawsuit, and Jerking Off to Call Me By Your Name
#Tim contrasts privileged, groomed child actors like Chalamet with the Florida Project's Instagram-discovered lead, tells the story of Miles Teller suing a driver after a car accident scarred his face and got him cast, and goes on a tangent about jerking off to the pasta scene in Call Me By Your Name because Armie Hammer and Chalamet don't do it for him.
10moments
- 16:42Director discovered an actress on Instagram and taught her to act, while rich kids like Timothée Chalamet have been groomed since childhood by acting coaches and wealthy parents.
- 17:35Tim walked through Beverly Hills with a friend despite having no sidewalks, sweating while passing mansions and receiving dirty looks from residents.
- 18:33Walking around wealthy neighborhoods as a fat sweaty person is like putting an ice cream cone in the Mona Lisa—it's performance art for Maoists.
- 19:41Rich actor kids are groomed from young ages, fed oat milk, sent to acting coaches, and expected to be impressive—but Tim is more impressed by actresses discovered selling vapes on Instagram.
- 20:49Miles Teller got in a car accident, got scarring that made him suitable for acting roles, then sued the other driver and ruined his life despite making millions.
- 21:43Tim tried to jerk off to Call Me By Your Name but couldn't because Timothée Chalamet looks like a mouse and too perfect, like jerking off to a simulation.
- 21:59He ended up jerking off to the pasta scene instead—a chilled summer pasta with lemon, tomatoes, and capers is objectively better than the actors.
- 22:37Bria Vineyard discovered on Instagram for the Florida Project, phenomenal performance as someone who'd never acted before, yet isn't nominated for the Academy Awards.
- 23:00Hollywood wants Gwyneth Paltrow types, not real people discovered on social media, because they don't like class-based identity politics and having actual poor people succeed.
- 23:27Discussion of fried Oreo-flavored vape, questioning how the fry flavor comes through in a vape when a fried Oreo just tastes burnt.
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- 1 min
Sean's Fried Oreo Vape and the Ice Cream Meltdown Story
#A brief tangent about vape flavors like Fried Oreo leads into Ray recounting a fair outing where Tim (or someone) melted down demanding vanilla fudge ice cream.
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- 23:53Tim attended a festival with a potato sack ride, fried Oreo, and open mic.
- 24:05At the ice cream stand, Tim rejected the mocha chip and demanded vanilla fudge like a three-year-old having a meltdown.
- 24:21Sean tried to hand Tim his melted coffee ice cream, but Tim refused it repeatedly.
- 24:34Radio stations bring Tim and Sean into schools thinking they'll be good influences on the kids.
- 3 min
Recapping the Oscar Party Fallout: Booing and the Rich Kid's Netflix Message
#They wrap up the Oscar party story with the crowd booing them when they lingered too long during commercial breaks, then Tim reads a rich private-school acquaintance's Facebook message congratulating him on a fake 'Netflix series' and asking for career advice for a friend.
8moments
- 24:43Tim explains the Oscar party organizers feared he and his co-host would discuss Johnny Depp's legal situation.
- 25:04Tim suspects the woman was reacting to their physical presence in ill-fitting hoodies rather than hearing what they actually said.
- 25:20Breaking the formal illusion of an awards show by grabbing mics while guests were dressed up and posing for photos.
- 25:35During the first commercial break, a woman running the event and her chubby son were present, and the son made fat jokes.
- 25:58Tim notes the kid told people to 'live your healthiest life' while joking about his own weight, and the crowd loved it.
- 26:19Tim describes saying just two sentences before the Oscar coverage returned, causing audience confusion.
- 26:43The event organizer rushed over asking if they were going to talk through the entire commercial break.
- 27:01A rich kid messages Tim on Facebook about something related to wealth.
- 8 min
The Rich Kid's Comedy Advice Request and Asking Him for Five Grand Instead
#Tim reads through the full absurd message from a wealthy Blackstone-employed acquaintance asking how to break into comedy for his rich friend, and riffs on his plan to respond by asking to borrow $5,000, mocking how rich kids never invest in their own projects and misunderstand how show business actually works.
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- 27:23Tim receives a message from a wealthy former classmate from Holy Trinity High School asking for comedy advice.
- 27:50The kid left finance to pursue comedy and is 'diving straight down' into the business.
- 28:25He wants to know how to transition from open mics to featured spots and write a pilot for a web series.
- 28:59Tim responds by asking to borrow five thousand dollars, claiming he's struggling despite appearances.
- 30:01Rich kids never invest in their own projects—they want the blueprint instead of building it themselves.
- 31:05Tim explains that traditional success models don't apply in comedy; it's a fun house where normal rules break.
- 31:42There's plenty of room for well-educated wealthy guys in comedy writing rooms, so why is he doing open mics?
- 32:08Most people who quit their jobs for creative pursuits shouldn't be doing it—only about one percent should.
- 33:13Tim respects the honesty more if someone admits their corporate job is meaningless rather than pretending art is the goal.
- 34:20This business is the Wild West; the thing that breaks you might come from something you do that feels completely insignificant.
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- 5 min
You Have to Suffer for Five Years: Bobby Lopez vs. the Rich Kid
#Tim expands into a rant about how most people asking for comedy advice need to grind in poverty and obscurity for years with no guarantee of success, contrasting genuine grinders like Bobby Lopez with dilettante rich kids doing improv for identity, and riffing on offensive-comedy fans who want him to do slurs and Chinese impressions.
10moments
- 35:30You need to spend five to seven years in soul-crushing poverty with no tangible accomplishments before comedy matters.
- 35:52The things you do early on—new five minutes at bars—nobody cares; you can't talk about it at Thanksgiving.
- 36:33Tim's friends push him to be edgy and say offensive things, but he doesn't feel like he has anything that extreme to say.
- 37:06Some comics just want him to do racial impressions or say slurs, and they'll claim he sold out when his special drops without that material.
- 37:45Bobby Lopez is a guy who committed to writing musicals from childhood and actually did it, making him fundamentally different from most people.
- 38:21Bobby's a genius, but Tim doesn't know if this particular kid is even funny or has any real talent.
- 38:41People at open mics often have no sense of humor, but Tim has met genuinely hilarious people working blue-collar jobs.
- 39:09Comedy has become a pageant and identity marker rather than something people pursue because they're actually funny.
- 39:31Tim's new response to anyone asking for advice: "Please send me some money and I'll tell you what it's all about."
- 39:47The problem with being established as a clown is that people don't believe you're serious, so you can't con them anymore.
- 1 min
Jane Mayer Won't Come on the Show (and the Bread Incident)
#Quick riff on journalist Jane Mayer refusing to appear on the show, and the callback to Tim once drunkenly stealing bread from her table at a restaurant.
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- 40:16Tim insists he took bread from a table he believed was communal.
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- 13 min
The Steele Dossier, Russian Collusion, and the Deep State Debate
#Tim walks through Jane Mayer's New Yorker article on Christopher Steele and the Trump-Russia dossier, covering Steele's MI6 background, the golden shower allegation, Devin Nunes' memo, John Brennan's claims, the Comey letter, and Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos in the Mueller investigation, debating whether Trump's team colluded with Russia and whether Trump himself knew.
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- 40:58The Steele dossier was paid for by the DNC through Fusion GPS, a firm run by retired intelligence operatives.
- 41:52Tim explains Steele was an ex-MI6 spy who ran the Russia desk and had lived and worked in the Soviet Union.
- 42:48The dossier allegedly claimed Trump had prostitutes perform a golden shower on a bed Obama had stayed in.
- 44:00Devin Nunes released a memo saying the Steele dossier was bullshit, paid for by the DNC, with no real evidence underneath.
- 44:35Democrats counter that US intelligence verified many details in the report through independent sources and back-channel communications.
- 45:06Intelligence work typically achieves 70-80% accuracy at best, meaning Steele got some details wrong but others right.
- 46:05The Russia collusion theory is used as proof the deep state invented anti-Trump narratives to weaponize intelligence.
- 46:32Obama and John Kerry supposedly didn't act on the dossier due to an amendment preventing a sitting president from influencing elections.
- 47:26Evidence increasingly suggests Trump campaign members were conducting back-channel negotiations with Russia, possibly without Trump knowing.
- 50:20Scott Young, a London oligarch connected to Russian money, died falling from a penthouse in what may have been murder over hidden divorce assets.
- 53:19Tim argues that dealing with the mob means never getting your money back—they will kill you instead of paying up.
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- 4 min
Scott Young's Death and the Russian Oligarch Money-Laundering Theory
#Tim recounts the mysterious death of Bravo's Ladies of London figure Scott Young, who allegedly used Russian mob connections to hide $400 million in a divorce before dying after falling from his penthouse, tying it to Boris Berezovsky and London's Russian oligarch scene.
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- 53:54Boris Berezovsky was a Russian oligarch and Putin critic who moved to London and hung out with ex-oligarchs.
- 54:14Tim suspects Scott Young got involved with this clique of wealthy, dangerous people.
- 54:41Tim calls Russian oligarchs hard motherfuckers but notes Trump's foreign policy team were incompetent buffoons dealing with them.
- 55:12Paul Manafort was involved with very dirty people and probably has reasons for not flipping beyond integrity.
- 55:44Tim argues the FBI isn't keeping witnesses safe—they could kill Manafort and it would disappear from the news.
- 56:04When Russia killed Litvinenko with polonium, they were sending a message; a car accident could happen to Manafort just as easily.
- 56:28Tim announces he stands with Mother Russia and wants them to stop being brutal to gays so he can be a Stalinist.
- 57:00After the Cold War, the U.S. let Russia collapse economically and allowed a power vacuum where generals sold nuclear warhead fuel on the black market.
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- 1 min
Post-Soviet Chaos and How Putin Rose From the Wreckage
#Tim briefly argues that the economic collapse and power vacuum after the Soviet Union's fall, with generals selling off nuclear material, set the stage for Putin's rise.
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- 57:19Post-Soviet oligarchs got rich selling surplus tanks and cruise missiles from the wreckage of the Soviet arsenal.
- 1 min
Tim and Ray open a care package from a listener named Sean containing a mug, chocolate-covered espresso beans, and Amazon gift cards, thanking him on air.
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- 57:42Tim opens Sean's fan gift package with a mug and struggles to pronounce the sender's name.
- 58:07Tim notes that Sean also included a letter, establishing this as the standard for fan gifts.
- 3 min
Caller Question: Sean's Sales Job Dilemma
#Reading a fan letter from 'Sean,' Tim and Ray give advice about whether he should quit his traveling sales job (which involved a stint working graveyard shift at a bread warehouse) and take care of his health, given his company relocating him repeatedly between Chicago and Minneapolis.
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- 58:10Tim acknowledges the caller as the number one fan.
- 58:43Sean is on a five-year work contract and has been relocated from Minneapolis to Chicago and now back to Minneapolis.
- 59:15The last 14 months have been spent in a car and home office, with Sean listening to Tim Dillon's podcast repeatedly.
- 59:33Tim clarifies that Sean is a traveling salesman asking whether to get a new job or move back and continue sales.
- 59:52Tim advises getting a new job and shares his experience working the graveyard shift at a bread warehouse, losing his mind after a few months.
- 1:00:18Ray suggests the decision depends on Sean's prospects but warns against running himself ragged in sales work.
- 1:00:35Ray emphasizes taking care of health as important, joking it probably means getting a hooker while investigating a new job.
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- 6 min
The Housing Bubble, Greenspan, and Wall Street's Reckless Abandon
#Sparked by a listener's Y2K housing bubble question, Tim and Ray dig into Alan Greenspan's rate cuts after 9/11, the seductive idea of homeownership, Wall Street repackaging that dream into predatory finance, referencing the book All the Devils Are Here and the general collective denial that fueled the 2008 crash.
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- 1:01:10Greenspan was a hack who slashed interest rates after the tech bubble burst, creating a capital influx that fed the housing bubble.
- 1:01:23Tim connects post-9/11 national insecurity to loosened monetary policy driving housing speculation.
- 1:02:10The housing bubble wasn't caused by any one ideology but by a powerful cultural idea—home ownership—that lacked proper guardrails.
- 1:02:54Expanding home ownership to low-income people and minorities is seductive, but for those who can't afford it, a home becomes just another debt anchor.
- 1:03:41Wall Street, an amoral pit of snakes, weaponized the dream of home ownership to extract wealth from those least able to afford it.
- 1:04:11Most people misunderstand the crisis as a few executives in suits scamming everyone, when really everyone was complicit in the illusion.
- 1:04:50The housing bubble was a fervor that swept through the entire system, making it nearly impossible to see you were wrong while it was happening.
- 1:05:18Financial institutions stopped being partnerships where people risked their own money, removing a natural brake on reckless behavior.
- 1:05:45Wall Street used to maintain at least the appearance of social responsibility; now they loot economies with pure reckless abandon and no meaningful hedges.
- 1:06:25Everyone was using complex derivatives like CDOs and CDS without thinking about counterparty risk, because the entire system was completely invested in the same bet.
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- 3 min
Trying to Book Bethany McLean and Anna Arutunian, and Trump Impeachment Odds
#Tim discusses wanting journalist Bethany McLean and Russia writer Anna Arutunian on the show in-studio, praises a past interview with John Kiriakou, and speculates with Ray about whether Trump will actually be removed from office, comparing it to the Watergate timeline.
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- 1:06:58Tim wants Bethany McLean in studio, not on Skype, because that's the only way to do the interview properly.
- 1:07:35Plan to get Anna Arutunian back on the show because she's a writer in Russia and it would be really interesting.
- 1:07:54Tim doubts Trump will be removed from office, comparing the situation to Nixon, whose resignation took years.
- 1:08:32Tim believes Trump should be removed based on his negligent and reckless operating style.
- 1:08:50Tim imagines asking Trump a question at the next election as someone working the graveyard shift at a potato bread warehouse.
- 1:09:11Holding Trump accountable matters for the integrity of the Republic, whatever's left of it.
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- 3 min
Tim pitches hiring him and Ray for weddings, bar mitzvahs and events, then runs through upcoming tour dates including Moontower in Austin, Magooby's, Clusterfest, Mohegan Sun, and the Uncorked Comedy wine festival show at Willow Creek Winery in West Cape May, NJ.
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- 1:09:33Tim pitches hiring him and Ray for weddings, bar mitzvahs, and other events.
- 1:10:03Their trivia performance went well with older audiences, though fish sticks may come up at events.
- 1:10:35Tour dates: Moon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin April 16th-17th, Magoobies in Detroit March 16th-17th and March 29th-31st.
- 1:10:50More dates announced: Clusterfest in San Francisco in June, plus shows in Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Chicago.
- 1:11:19Uncorked comedy show at Willow Creek Winery in West Cape May, New Jersey on Saturday, March 24th.
- 1:12:05The vineyard show will feature wine and cheese, though Tim and Ray are more suited to hard liquor and drug acts.
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- 2 min
Tim plugs the Gas Digital Network subscription, urging listeners to use promo code HELL before prices rise in April, jokes about the episode count, briefly discusses eating espresso beans from Sean's gift, thanks Sean again, and signs off.
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- 1:12:43Gas Digital subscription prices going up in April; use promo code "hell" to get grandfathered into lower rates
- 1:13:02Six dollars a month with promo code, seventy-two dollars for the year with 87 episodes
- 1:13:25Tim compares the subscription value to a doctorate in nothing useful
- 1:13:40Tim discusses eating espresso beans and their caffeine effects