Interview · moment 14 of 28
The National Security Council 'Billets' and the Whistleblower Who Was Already Flagged
from Steve Bannon Emergency Podcast | The Tim Dillon Show #433 · #433
4 min
Guest
Bannon recounts discovering 292 permanent NSC 'billets' staffed by career deep-staters during Trump's first term, and reveals the Ukraine call whistleblower had been flagged two years earlier as one of the most dangerous deep-state operatives.
- Guest describes asking Mike Flynn for charts of the National Security Council on Trump's first day, revealing 292 'billets' or staffed positions across the agency.
- The NSC positions are filled by 'detailees' from the Pentagon, CIA, DNI, and DHS—the mechanism through which the Deep State maintains continuity across administrations.
- The 'inter-agency process' requires every decision to go through the CIA, State Department, and other agencies, creating a system where the Deep State controls policy regardless of who occupies the White House.
- Traditional CIA leadership comes from an elite credentialed class educated at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, operating with a mentality that they are guardians of the Republic.
- Tim notes that across Bush, Obama, and Trump administrations, foreign policy never fundamentally changes because the neoliberal neocon apparatus—the Deep State—maintains control.
- Colonel Derek Harvey and Army Sergeant Higgins identified and ranked the most dangerous Deep State operatives within the National Security Council who should be removed.
- Eric Ciaramella, identified two years earlier as one of the most dangerous Deep Staters, later became the original whistleblower on the Trump-Ukraine call.
Deep StateNational Security CouncilCIADerek HarveyBarack ObamaMike FlynnDonald TrumpBill ClintonEric CiaramellaH.R. McMasterRonald ReaganGeorge W. Bushinteragency processBernie SandersAlexandria Ocasio-CortezHenry KissingerRichard V. AllenHigginsZbigniew BrzezinskiJared Kushner