Interview · moment 4 of 13
Gavin on Trans Kids, Hormones, and 'Anti-Trans' Labeling
from Episode 153 - Gavin McInnes · #153
8 min
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Gavin lays out his views on being called anti-trans, argues biology and gender are linked, criticizes giving hormones to children, compares trans suicide rates to Holocaust-era Jewish suicides, and discusses gay identity versus trans ideology.
- The label 'anti-trans' gets applied to people who question whether there are 400 genders or who believe biology and gender are linked.
- Gavin points to Desmond the Amazing, a child dancing on a bar while men throw money at him, as child abuse.
- The trans ideology contradicts gay identity: if a gay man is attracted to biological males, someone's gender identity claim doesn't change that reality.
- Tim won't forgive giving hormones to kids, and neither will a lot of people he talks to—that's not anti-trans, it's a position many hold.
- Gavin wrote an article five years ago called 'Transphobia Is Perfectly Natural' about the genuine weirdness of unexpected family transitions at Thanksgiving.
- The core issue: you cannot give children hormones to block puberty because it screws up their development, and Gavin gets in trouble for saying it.
- Transgender suicide rates are extraordinarily high—worse than a grim historical comparison Gavin makes before catching himself.
- Tim makes a Holocaust-dark-joke and immediately notes he can't make jokes like that anymore while already in trouble for the podcast.
- TERFs in Britain are questioning why young lesbians are cutting off their breasts; Gavin suggests teenage girls should try being gay for a while before making permanent decisions.
- Tim asks why very pro-family people aren't having children—redirecting the conversation toward family and reproduction as a different concern.
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