Episode 441 · The Studio Revamp
Candace Owens Emergency Podcast | The Tim Dillon Show #441
with Candace Owens
Apr 26, 2025 · 1:13:52 · 2,100,000 views · 20 segments, 142 moments indexed
Tim sits down with Candace Owens to discuss the curious case of Brigitte Macron, Candace’s fight to free Harvey Weinstein, the impending War in Iran, and much more.
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- 1 min
Cold Open: Pitching Candace and Tim, a Morning Show for America
#Tim jokes that America needs a new morning show like Regis and Kathy Lee, and pitches himself and Candace Owens as the hosts, deferring to her bigger platform.
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- Tim pitches a new morning show for America called Candace and Tim, replacing the old format of Regis and Kathie Lee or Kelly and Michael.
- Candace leads the show due to better follower counts and exposure, with Tim tagging along and acknowledging he plays his position.
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- 3 min
Tim tells Candace about a French hotel employee excitedly discussing her Candace Owens Expose documentary, leading into how Macron's legal threats escalated the project into a full investigation into Brigitte Macron.
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- Tim meets a French concierge at the Beverly Hills Hotel who recognizes him and reveals he's been watching the Candace Owens expose
- The Macron documentary has become Tim's most international project, with reach he never predicted
- Macron's cease-and-desist letter to Nashville is what escalated the project from one episode to a full series
- Tim knew about Macron's marriage but the legal threat motivated extensive additional research and documentation
- 3 min
Candace explains how she offered to drop the documentary series if the Macrons would answer a simple yes-or-no question about Brigitte's birth sex, which they refused to do, and discusses the actual malice legal standard protecting her reporting.
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- Tim explains the strategy: offer to stop the series if Rajit simply answers yes or no about being born female.
- Refusing to answer on record would have exposed them to liability by proving actual malice under libel law.
- Tim's broader point: we know almost nothing about the people running our lives, and that's the real problem.
- Trump's popularity stemmed partly from the fact that people knew him for 30 years—love him or hate him, he wasn't a mystery.
- When journalists try to research the backstories of powerful people, they get attacked for it.
- Emanuel has become exposed in ways that were previously contained to French journalists and insiders.
- Left-wing journalists tried to write feminist pieces promoting Rajit, then fell down a hole when the person didn't exist.
- Imagine if Ivanka Trump's yearbooks got locked down and you couldn't confirm her childhood—that would be a red flag.
- It should be trivially easy to fact-check that somebody existed and find photos from school or hospitals where they were born.
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- 3 min
Candace argues that public figures like Macron and Obama are elevated with little scrutiny of their backstories, and that French journalists who tried to write flattering pieces on Brigitte instead found she seemingly didn't exist, triggering yearbook lockdowns and Elysée Palace pressure.
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- Tim identifies the core problem: a 40-year-old woman with a 14-year-old boy, already 'weird' and 'a huge problem' from the start.
- The press marketed her as an irresistible Claudia Schiffer–level model, but the actual photos show nothing of the sort.
- Seeing the real images makes it obvious the entire narrative is a lie, and raises the question of why the press fabricated her appearance at all.
- The age gap was officially sold as 48 and 15, then adjusted to 40 and 14, but was actually 48 and 14—confusion the press apparently created intentionally.
- No boy at that school would have been interested in her based on the actual photos, which destroys the credibility of the entire 'seduction' narrative.
- Journalists who investigated the story in France faced defamation suits, relocation, and arbitrary tax prosecutions—a pattern of retaliation against anyone examining it.
- The coordinated legal attacks on investigators make no sense if the story is untrue or has 'no legs'—the aggression itself suggests something powerful is being protected.
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- 4 min
Candace lays out her theory that Macron is a Manchurian-candidate-style asset, describing how he allegedly failed his elite program admissions three times, had rigged top marks that students revolted over, and was propped up at Rothschild bank despite colleagues thinking he was an idiot.
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- Tim questions why a country's president would send a letter to a pregnant woman in Nashville, Tennessee, unless terrified of something.
- French palace lawyers are panicked and calling his lawyers demanding the series be taken down; they threatened legal action after Joe Rogan mentioned it.
- Tim tells his lawyer: if they call again about taking it down, he's making a season two on Netflix.
- Discussion of MK-Ultra and intelligence agency mind control programs designed to create programmable slaves and assassins.
- Emanuel Macron presented to the public as a virtuoso Mozart-level genius when he's actually a mind-controlled candidate.
- Macron failed to get into the elite banking program three times, then magically was accepted and graduated top of his class.
- Students at the program revolted for the first time in its history, knowing Macron was an idiot and his test scores were fabricated; the school canceled the results.
- At Rothschild's Bank, Macron became the youngest managing partner despite being so incompetent he didn't know what EBITDA meant.
- The Wall Street Journal confirmed Macron's incompetence; Rothschild protected him and created a fake resume to make him appear genius.
- Macron's entire intellectual credibility is fabricated to deceive the public.
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- 6 min
They joke about Zelensky and other leaders being cast like actors, riff on Putin telling Tucker Carlson he deals with the CIA rather than presidents, and Candace argues the Macron age-gap grooming story was made even more bizarre by the alleged trans cover-up.
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- Zelensky is obviously just a literal president in a show—they're all in drama classes.
- Tim recalls Putin telling Tucker Carlson he doesn't deal with the U.S. presidency, only the CIA.
- If you're going to install a Manchurian candidate, why add the extra complication of transitioning a family member who allegedly molested him as a child?
- Brigitte Macron was born Jean-Michel Trogneux, possibly the missing uncle of Emmanuel Macron.
- Despite claiming no definitive conclusion, the guest says efforts to remove their YouTube series confirm they've stumbled on the truth.
- If authorities can sell the public on this story, what else could they sell people on?
- The CIA operates like a gang—they kill people, use blackmail and assassination, but Americans find this unbelievable about their own government while accepting it about Russia.
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- 1 min
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- Tim explains why he won't go to France, citing lack of free speech and the government's arbitrary power to arrest people.
- Tim compares France to gang territory after receiving a 100-page letter from the government, saying he won't voluntarily walk into that situation.
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- 2 min
Tim asks if Candace is banned from France; she says she's effectively banned herself given journalist arrests there, and they dissect the implausible age-gap courtship story between 40-year-old Brigitte and 14-year-old Macron and how the press's description of Brigitte's looks didn't match photos.
5moments
- Tim outlines the Macron-Brigitte age gap: he's 14, she's 40, and a teacher at his school.
- Why would a 40-year-old woman find a gangly 14-year-old boy attractive when women typically prefer men their age or older?
- Tim calls the relationship a crime and emphasizes there's no such thing as a hot 14-year-old boy—they're in a weird phase.
- The Me Too movement supposedly addressed power dynamics like this, yet the teacher-student relationship between Brigitte and Macron went unexamined.
- The timeline of when they actually began their relationship gets fuzzy, with allegations that she was married at the time.
- 4 min
Candace lays out why she believes Harvey Weinstein was wrongfully convicted, focusing on inconsistencies in accusers' post-assault behavior (continued affairs, requests for favors) and comparing the case to a kangaroo court where character assassination replaced evidence.
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- Tim concludes Harvey Weinstein was wrongfully convicted and hung on the #MeToo movement.
- Despite believing himself immune to media narratives, Tim initially assumed Weinstein was guilty based on the sheer number of accusers.
- The conviction actually rested on testimony from only three women, not the 130 accusations widely reported.
- One accuser maintained a four-year affair with Weinstein, emailed him requesting Paris trips after the alleged assault, and brought her mother to meet him.
- Tim argues the accusers are attempting to absolve themselves of consensual relationships by retroactively reframing them as rape.
- If someone had genuinely been assaulted, they would logically avoid being alone with the alleged perpetrator in hotel rooms again.
- Convicting Weinstein on a general vibe rather than specific provable allegations sets a dangerous legal precedent.
- Tim had publicly stated this position on Twitter before the appellate court reversed Weinstein's conviction.
- 3 min
Candace describes Weinstein's conviction being overturned on appeal, her phone calls with him from prison, and the toll on his children who are told their father is a rapist rather than simply a flawed man.
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- Harvey Weinstein's conviction was overturned in New York, with appellate judges calling it a kangaroo court where character assassination was allowed.
- Tim speaks regularly with Weinstein and says he called to thank him for shedding light on the case, experiencing genuine hope for the first time in years.
- Tim tells Weinstein that he lost the public war, not the legal one—that staying silent per his lawyers' advice was part of his imprisonment.
- Weinstein's children are growing up being told their father is a rapist rather than a flawed or immoral man, which Tim finds troubling.
- Weinstein has denied being a rapist from the beginning, admits to affairs and infidelity, and paid some women off because he was cheating on his wife.
- The emails between Weinstein and his accusers defy common sense—years of friendly communication after alleged assault, with women asking him for tickets and career help.
- The Kevin Spacey documentary featured accusers who were inappropriate-adjacent but then went to his apartment, yet later claimed he ruined their lives.
- Weinstein isn't being defended as a moral paragon, but the revisionist history and Monday-morning quarterbacking deserve scrutiny.
- 7 min
Candace argues Ryan Reynolds orchestrated a coordinated smear campaign against Justin Baldoni on Blake Lively's behalf, calling Reynolds secretly vicious and Lively untalented and mean, while praising Baldoni's excessive niceness as his downfall; brief detour into Taylor Swift rumors and a personal feud with Red Mango frozen yogurt.
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- Tim likens the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni situation to a Depp-Heard sequel, but says it was much worse.
- Ryan Reynolds is a psychopath who used his Deadpool persona to mask his true nature until he decided to destroy Justin Baldoni.
- Tim describes the coordinated effort to destroy Baldoni's life and Blake Lively's admission that she wanted to control the movie.
- His one film credit was Joker 2, which he calls the worst movie ever, and he won't pretend otherwise.
- Being outside Hollywood gives him detachment to see that this was a calculated campaign to destroy Baldoni's life and put him in the hospital.
- Baldoni never fought back because he was told by people not to say anything, following the nice-guy routine of someone who actually believes in the causes he advocates for.
- Tim went through Baldoni's Instagram and suffered PTSD from how relentlessly nice he was to everyone.
- Blake Lively has been victimizing people while pretending to be a victim for years, and her friendship with Taylor Swift is telling.
- Taylor Swift and her mother have allegedly left threatening messages on other pop stars' phones, though everyone knows about it.
- Blake Lively has never had to work for anything, isn't talented, and arrived to the Me Too movement too late to make it credible.
- Brian Friedman revealed the text messages between Blake and Ryan, which Tim calls terrifying evidence of how they operate.
- It's shocking that Ryan Reynolds is allowed to just exist as a person in normal life after what he did.
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- 4 min
Tim and Candace discuss the psychological fascination with how elaborate hoaxes get sold to the public, comparing the Macron and Weinstein/Baldoni stories to true crime, and how even Candace fell for the Weinstein narrative initially.
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- What can you get people to believe? What can you pass yourself off as?
- Tim is impressed by the elaborate hoax and production value, even with gaping holes in the story.
- The Ryan Reynolds New York Times lawsuit scheme—pretending to have a different case to get someone's cell phone—reads like a true crime story.
- Tim's natural interest in psychology draws him to how easily people can be socially engineered and manipulated.
- Even Tim fell for the Harvey Weinstein case, which scared him about his own susceptibility to manipulation.
- Intelligent, successful people educated at the best schools can be completely lost when asked to process information outside their world.
- The longer you stay in school, the dumber you become—common sense gets lost chasing degrees and certifications.
- Andrew Tate on street smarts: if someone on the block is pushing hard for you to eat a free cheeseburger, you instinctively know something's wrong.
- Experts keep getting it wrong because they're missing the common sense element that comes from experience outside academia.
- A nice expert book and a big bag of money is all it takes to sell an elaborate hoax.
- 6 min
They argue formal education erodes common sense, citing Andrew Tate's street-smarts cheeseburger analogy and Jordan Peterson's newfound sensitivity to name-calling, then joke about internet trolls and Candace's ongoing feud with Red Mango.
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- Tim on how people in politics start out motivated by right things but get bought and absorbed into a cult that prevents them from critiquing what they know is wrong.
- His PR advice for the antisemitism narrative: stop bombing children and see if it decreases.
- Tim argues the vast majority of people view the Gaza situation as terrible and unsustainable, though some have faced more backlash than others for saying it.
- He lists specific names—Harvey Weinstein, Steve Sorrowitz, Justin Balden—and accuses outlets of conflating critique of Israel with being Jewish.
- BLM started with legitimate concerns about police behavior but went so overboard that people stopped caring, like the Simpson braids apology incident.
- Tim mocks people who get upset over being called names online, pointing out he gets called slurs daily on Twitter and just accepts that as how the internet works.
- Jordan Peterson has taken a stance against name-calling, which Tim finds absurd given how the internet actually functions.
- He compares people upset about online harassment to Gaza children, suggesting those who are that rattled should just log off and get fresh air.
- Tim recalls getting into a real war with Red Mango frozen yogurt company that got intense and neither party was at their best.
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- 2 min
Tim reads an ad for Helix mattresses, joking about telling friends and family the mattress in his house is a Helix, and touts the sitewide spring savings discount.
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- Tim explains that people think the internet is real life, then pivots to praising Helix mattresses based on what guests tell him.
- Poor sleep makes people irritable and turns them into bums, so a good mattress matters.
- Tim pushes the spring savings event offer: 20% off sitewide on Helix mattresses.
- 1 min
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- 247 colostrum is presented as nature's original health hack with over 400 bioactive nutrients that fortify gut integrity and strengthen immunity.
- Tim vouches for the product, emphasizing that it fortifies gut health and makes you feel revived, revitalized, renewed, and recharged.
- 7 min
Tim and Candace discuss the likelihood of war with Iran, noting Netanyahu's history of naming target countries on camera, the pattern from 9/11 through Iraq and Afghanistan, and criticism of the CIA/Mossad relationship via Dave Smith's commentary.
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- Tim argues we're marching toward war with Iran, and Netanyahu always gets what he wants.
- Iran's been the boogeyman since childhood, but the pattern of Western intervention in Muslim countries is predictable and well-known.
- Defense department turmoil may involve people actively pushing for war with Iran.
- Netanyahu's public record shows he named Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Iran as targets, and said America can be easily manipulated.
- Israel isn't located in the Middle East, so constant regional conflict is suspicious given the stated strategic interest.
- U.S. support for Israel intensified after JFK's assassination, coinciding with his dispute with Ben-Gurion over nuclear weapons.
- Dave Smith gets attacked for discussing America's unhealthy attachment to Israel and willingness to serve its interests.
- Tim sees CIA and Mossad as fundamentally the same deep state apparatus with overlapping interests.
- Israel needs more bodies for expansion, which is why understanding these dynamics is crucial to critique.
- Many Israelis themselves oppose Netanyahu, calling him corrupt and refusing to expand the country's borders in his wars.
- Jewish Americans face the same conditioning black Americans do—Holocaust education imprints existential victimhood, making emotional reactions to October 7th understandable.
- Post-9/11 America pursued wars that made the country less safe, tortured innocents, killed civilians, and gave up freedoms—a cautionary template for current escalation.
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- 5 min
Candace argues her generation learned from the wealth generated around DC during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars while veterans suffered, vows her sons won't fight in 'your shitty little war,' and recounts Megan McCain holding a years-long grudge over a tweet.
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- Tim explains his 'Generation 9/11' philosophy: after major events, slow down before entering new wars and question who actually benefits.
- The Iraq War made no sense—Saudis were on the planes but the U.S. invaded Iraq instead, then Afghanistan, revealing war was predetermined and required public justification.
- War with Iran has already been decided upon; Trump might want diplomacy but neocons in his cabinet are pushing for conflict.
- Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, and one other person stopped the U.S. from attacking Iran, while everyone else wants war because the decision was already made.
- Very few people at the top actually benefit from perpetual war in Ukraine and Israel—it's not ordinary citizens.
- His generation watched friends die in Afghanistan and Iraq while the ten wealthiest counties in America became the suburbs around Washington DC, home to defense contractors.
- Veterans returned with no healthcare, skyrocketing suicide rates, and no housing while people in military-adjacent industries became incredibly wealthy.
- Tim's generation learned this lesson and remains vocal about it despite media attacks on his family, job, and career.
- His sons will not grow up fighting in wars; he speaks the truth as a protective parent without concern for feelings.
- Megan McCain loves war because her family benefits from it—the neocon class got rich while poor southerners' sons died in their wars.
- McCain and Ben Dominic have held a grudge for seven years over one honest tweet he sent during COVID about her attacking Joe Rogan.
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- 2 min
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- Tim explains how Ethos life insurance helps families and describes the streamlined process compared to traditional insurance.
- He got a quote from Ethos and signed up immediately, noting you can customize coverage up to $3 million for as little as $2 a day.
- Tim delivers his serious pitch: if you have anyone you care about or anything of value, you need life insurance so you don't leave people in the lurch.
- Same-day coverage is available without leaving your house, and Ethos was named number one no-medical-exam instant life insurance provider by Business Insider as of March 2025.
- 6 min
Candace and Tim discuss how post-9/11 lies and COVID hypocrisy fractured institutional trust, how the Depp-Heard trial exposed media narrative manipulation, and Candace's own past cognitive dissonance realizing outlets she once trusted were compromised.
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- Tim claims he's a centrist who believes in pedophile cults and lizard people.
- Most people are sleepwalking through life, battered by contradictory information about who's good and bad.
- Media trust fracturing has been necessary, and Johnny Depp trial showed how easily press manufactures villains and victims.
- COVID response destroyed friendships and trust, with people finding out they'd been lied to by experts and media.
- Post-9/11 generation stopped trusting government after weapons of mass destruction and Dick Cheney, similar to how COVID shaped younger people.
- Tim went through phase of realizing Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and Washington Post all serve corporate interests.
- Once you accept you can be wrong and investigate things yourself, you feel more confident and can judge on merits.
- Tim was labeled anti-Black on Wikipedia despite having Candace Owens on podcast in 2020 to platform a marginalized woman of color.
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Candace rejects the idea that podcasters like her, Rogan, and Theo Von are a 'new establishment' compared to institutions and intelligence agencies, credits the 2024 election result to unpopular Democratic policies, and they close by re-pitching the Candace and Tim morning show with Harvey Weinstein as producer.
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- Tim notes the establishment has written hit pieces about him constantly this year because they fear people listening to different viewpoints.
- The anger toward Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn stems from the establishment's need to keep people divided, according to Tim.
- Tim rejects the idea that podcasters are the new establishment, comparing them to 19 intelligence agencies, the federal government, major newspapers, Ivy League schools, and the Council on Foreign Relations.
- The Democratic campaign failed because it pushed unpopular positions on child sex changes and open borders that Americans rejected.
- Tim points out they ran a dead guy, replaced him with an unpopular vice president nobody knew, and she campaigned on joy.
- Tim says he never gets blamed for anything despite having advanced ideas, while media outlets blame everyone else instead.
- Tim argues that in a sane country, he and Candace Owens would have a morning show together.
- Tim jokes the only person they'd need to pitch the morning show to is Harvey Weinstein, once he gets him out of prison.
- Candace Owens says she can be found everywhere on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple before going on maternity leave in a week.
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