Interview · moment 12 of 28
The 'From the River to the Sea' Controversy
from Bonus Episode: Abby Martin
4 min
Guest
Abby explains the ADL retroactively recharacterized the phrase as genocidal incitement after October 7th despite previously calling it a common protest chant, arguing it actually means freedom from occupation.
- Palestinians offered every concession in the 1990s — it was Israel that rejected the two-state solution, not the other way around.
- Tim finds it baffling that anyone would wage a 50-year war over land when they could just accept an alternative and move on.
- The West Bank conflict is rooted in biblical and religious prophecy claims on both sides of the dispute.
- In conversations with hundreds of Palestinians, not a single one said they couldn't live in the region — all wanted peace and didn't want settlers on their villages.
- Street interviews with Israelis in Jerusalem showed almost every person was explicitly genocidal, saying things like 'kill them all' and 'wipe them off the Earth.'
- Israeli leaders openly call for wiping Palestinians off the face of the Earth and expelling them all, not coexisting peacefully.
- The situation now feels hopeless — people on both sides no longer see each other as human beings and hate each other.
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