Episode 372 · The Studio Revamp
Bastard Radio | The Tim Dillon Show #372
Dec 2, 2023 · 1:22:19 · 1,100,000 views · 32 segments, 192 moments indexed
Tim reunites with comedians Luis J. Gomez & Nick Mullen to talk about islands, Nick’s hispanic draw, female fans, diversity, walking it off and why some detractors can be good.
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- 1 min
Tim's Travel Spot Debate: Mexico vs Puerto Rico
#The guys discuss whether Tim could have a vacation spot in Mexico versus his usual claim of going to Puerto Rico or Jamaica.
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- Tim suggests finding a regular travel spot in Mexico instead of Jamaica
- Tim asks why Mexico can't work as a travel destination
- 1 min
Getting Sick in Mexico and Best Street Tacos
#Nick explains he only travels for food, praises San Diego and San Antonio Mexican food, and recounts getting sick twice in Mexico, blaming the water.
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- Mexican food is the best food, especially in America
- Tim got sick in Mexico both times he's been there
- Attributes getting sick to the water, not the meat quality
- 1 min
Puerto Rico Sucks: The Fake Frog Tour
#The group debates whether Puerto Rico is a good destination, mocking its lack of wildlife and telling a story about a jungle tour that promises a rare tree frog (coqui) that never actually appears.
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- Tim says Puerto Rico sucks, contradicting Nick's defense of it as a perfect weekend destination.
- Three blocks of Old San Juan downtown is basically all there is to do, plus fighting.
- Puerto Rico claims to be a natural island with no big animals or flora, but Tim questions whether that's how islands actually work.
- The whole thing comes down to shitty animals, particularly a tree frog they build up on all the branding and tour guides.
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- 3 min
Brock Pierce, Puerto Rico Tax Havens, and the Pedophile Bitcoin Theory
#Discussion of Puerto Rico's low tax rate luring rich people like Logan Paul and Peter Schiff, spiraling into the story of Brock Pierce, his child-actor past, alleged ties to a Hollywood pedophile ring documented in "An Open Secret," and a riff on Bitcoin's early adopters being pedophiles and hitmen customers.
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- Tour guide in Puerto Rico jungle shows tourists a tree stump supposedly containing a rare frog, but there's nothing inside—just leaves.
- Puerto Rico's tax havens attract wealthy people like Logan Paul, Jake Paul, and Peter Schiff with 4% tax rates instead of federal taxes.
- Bitcoin entrepreneurs attempted to develop Puerto Rico, including Brock Pierce, a former child actor from Mighty Ducks.
- Pierce became involved in a late-90s scheme with a pedophile who ran a production company that abused young boys and produced child pornography.
- One perpetrator was caught while Brock Pierce apparently avoided serious consequences, becoming known on Twitter for this history.
- Tim clarifies this predates QAnon—it's documented in the "Open Secret" documentary about Hollywood abuse.
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- 5 min
Bitcoin Pedophiles Can't Use Tor Browser
#An extended bit imagining wealthy pedophiles who bought Bitcoin but can't figure out how to use the Tor browser or dark web, calling tech support for help, leading into a tangent comparing Indian versus Filipino customer service quality.
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- Open Secret documentary about Hollywood pedophilia was ignored by everyone in the industry despite being damning.
- Brock Pierce reinvented himself as a Bitcoin guy after being exposed in the documentary.
- Pierce offered $50,000 bounties to unmask people calling him a pedophile on Twitter, implying he had money to have them killed.
- Bitcoin was originally designed for and attracted pedophiles, drug addicts, and people wanting to hire hitmen.
- Secret millionaire pedophiles bought Bitcoin to access child pornography but couldn't figure out how to use Tor browser.
- Tim imagines a pedophile with Bitcoin unable to use Tor calling customer support for help buying child pornography.
- People were irrationally angry at Indian customer service representatives who didn't speak English.
- Filipinos are better at customer service than Indians because they call you by your first name, making you feel like Mickey Mouse.
- Indian customer service reps have improved over time and used to lie about their names, which was a negative cultural trait.
- 1 min
New Studio and the WeWork Phone Booth People
#They note this is a new NYC studio in a former WeWork building, observing bizarre entrepreneurial tenants working out of tiny phone-booth-like offices.
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- The new studio is in a building that used to be a WeWork, with shady landlords renting out monthly spaces.
- People in the building work out of tiny phone booths like old-timey reporters on a wire, just trying to start businesses.
- 2 min
Starting a Scam Social Media Marketing Company (ianalyst.com)
#Tim tells the story of helping a friend start a social media marketing scam company out of a WeWork-style space, ripping off businesses for years with no real expertise, using an unpaid NYU intern, under the name ianalyst.com.
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- Tim admires startup entrepreneurs who choose to work in offices by the Freedom Tower for inspiration rather than from home.
- Old women working alone in those phone booth pods, piled with papers, are experiencing menopause and life change.
- Tim helped a friend launch a social media marketing company out of a WeWork-type space in the East Village years ago.
- The company's business plan was to sell social media marketing packages to businesses despite Tim and his partner not knowing how to use social media.
- They called up businesses and ripped them off, starting the company without any actual expertise in what they were selling.
- The operation relied on an unpaid NYU intern named Merck, an autistic kid with terrible skin, to handle all the accounts while having no clue what he was doing.
- Tim's scam company successfully ripped people off for two or three years.
- Tim attempts to verify whether ianalyst.com is still operating online.
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- 1 min
Checking If ianalyst.com Still Exists
#They pull up the old scam company's website live and joke about incoming lawsuits from Brock Pierce and the company itself.
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- Tim notes the show faces multiple lawsuits from various parties including Brock Pierce and people at ianalyst.
- 3 min
Steve Hofstetter: The Godfather of Self-Produced Comedy and Heckler Videos
#A long riff on Steve Hofstetter inventing the self-promotion/heckler-video business model in comedy, his laughing devil comedy club contest that Tim once won, and how MySpace-era comedians (Hofstetter, Yannis) pioneered social media comedy before it was cool.
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- Tim wanted to make a documentary about Steve Hofstetter, the original heckler-video guy who invented the self-produced comedy business model 20 years ago.
- Self-producing comedy shows used to make you look like a hack, but Hofstetter was the most influential person in comedy because every trend sucks before it gets cool.
- Hofstetter invented self-produced, self-promoted content and the heckler-video format, which people initially mocked as obviously staged.
- The TikTok audience became more amenable to heckler content, changing how people consumed and responded to the format.
- Despite inventing the entire model, Hofstetter has 800,000 YouTube subscribers and his special from a year ago got only 235,000 views.
- Hofstetter was ahead of the curve putting content on YouTube way before other comedians, doing it shamelessly with bringer contests at his clubs.
- 2 min
Comedy Career Ups and Downs: Yannis, Chris D, and Fear of Decline
#Discussion of how comedy careers rise and fall in cycles, citing Yannis's YouTube-to-half-hour trajectory and Chris D's career swings through Guy Code and Gas Digital.
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- Tim explains the stakes of a comedy competition where showing up solo meant facing brand new comics with no built-in support.
- Winning an audience vote led to being passed at the club and immediately pushed into another round of competition the following week.
- MySpace comedy pages were a real networking tool in the early era; comedians like Steve Trevino and Yannis used them to add anyone with a comedian page.
- The business is full of people who dipped a toe into comedy before there was money in it, and many would have been huge if they'd stuck with it.
- Yannis had moments of momentum on YouTube but then shifted to doing half-hour specials and other conventional work.
- Comedy careers are peaks and valleys; Yannis went up, came down, and is now killing it again.
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- 1 min
Fire Everyone and Outsource to AI
#A bit about firing everyone in sight at your company, hiring Filipinos or AI instead, that morphs into plugging Nick Mullen's and Louis J Gomez's new comedy specials.
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- Tim's advice to Lou: fire every person you see walking into your institution, as if playing a video game where anyone in your line of sight must be terminated.
- Hire a team of Filipinos or Indians instead, and outsource a lot of the job to AI.
- Tim does bit voices of AI assistants delivering Wendy's and pizza orders to Zach, playing out the outsourcing scenario.
- Nick Mullen has a new special out on YouTube, available on the Adam Friedland Show channel.
- 4 min
Why Women Don't Come to Comedy Shows
#Tim laments that his comedy crowd is mostly single male losers in oversized hoodies, riffing on how women travel in packs and buy fewer tickets, wishing crowds had more women.
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- Tim mentions Lois J. Gomez has a special on YouTube and discusses how people sometimes tag him thinking he's Luis Guzmán instead.
- Nick Mullen's comedy special 'Year of the Dragon' is on the Adam Friedland Show channel.
- Tim didn't want to do a special but there's a lot of money to be made right now in stand-up comedy, especially at the theater level.
- Women attending shows is crucial for success; comics doing well have tapped into the female audience, and it's the opposite of Tim's strategy.
- Women travel in packs, making them valuable for ticket sales since each woman brings friends, whereas Tim's male fans come alone.
- Tim's audience is mostly single dudes dressed in oversized hoodies who have no friends and take up entire tables despite being one person buying one ticket.
- Tim compares comedy clubs to Southwest Airlines—they should implement seating policies for people in oversized clothing before Lewis C.K.'s show.
- He tells his crowd if they just got friends, he could start selling out shows instead of asking people in the basement to pay cash.
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- 3 min
Selling Sunset, the Hamas War, and Comedy's Racial Fanbases
#Tim jokes about comparing the Israel-Hamas war to a hot real estate show, then the trio discuss which comedians have racially/culturally specific fanbases, including a bit about Latino fans and softspoken Hispanic superfans.
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- Tim says relating to Selling Sunset requires being cute and in shape, but he's connected it to the Israel-Hamas war instead.
- The Hamas War is now hotter than Selling Sunset as a real estate show.
- Women attending Tim's shows are damaged, or alternatively have male neural pathways that make them successful.
- Tim notices a surprising number of soft-spoken Hispanic guys attend his shows.
- These Hispanic attendees lack an accessible culture beyond the audio installation section of Best Buy and PlayStation 5.
- Different comedians are supported by different racial groups—Tim isn't supported by gay people, and his co-host isn't really supported by Puerto Ricans.
- Tim claims Latinos are easily tricked and stupid, prompting his co-host to refuse to sit through the hate speech.
- Black families encountered randomly in comedy clubs love Tim's material because they have real problems and won't be offended by language.
- Proposal to market Tim's next tour specifically to black families with real problems.
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- 4 min
An Ex-Gay Border Patrol Sitcom Pitch and Kilts at the Border
#Tim riffs on pitching a CBS sitcom about an ex-gay border patrol agent living next to a Mexican family, followed by a true story about seeing a border patrol officer wearing a kilt at McDonald's.
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- Tim pitches a CBS sitcom about an ex-gay Border Patrol agent married to a woman, with a Mexican family moving in next door.
- Tim saw a Border Patrol officer at the border wearing a kilt over the rest of his uniform, which he views as theater and mockery of the agency.
- Crowd work clips are blowing up online, but Tim says he doesn't care about the money-making potential of stand-up anymore and would quit if it stopped making sense financially.
- Tim would make more money helping set up a show than he makes doing stand-up in small clubs, especially when touring Europe.
- Dave Smith, Zack, Robbie Benson, and Tim brought a whole crew to Lima, Peru for shows, and Tim questions what agent would sign off on that terrible idea.
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- 5 min
Crowd Work Clips, TikTok's Future, and Standup Economics
#Discussion of viral crowd-work clips, whether TikTok will be banned, the fading novelty of platforms like Vine, and how standup only makes financial sense at a certain level, reminiscing about the days of $1,500-a-weekend club gigs.
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- Tim thinks standup's current popularity is a fad partly driven by pandemic pent-up demand, and he predicts TikTok will be illegal within three months.
- The absurdity of TikTok's moderation: you can post paraplegic people in front of trains, but the app only gets shut down when it goes after Israel.
- A viral TikTok video of a Black woman saying Osama bin Laden made valid points in his letter became a right-wing talking point, though it was really just one funny clip.
- Tim argues for deleting all social media, then pivots to wanting a complete reset where everyone starts at zero followers.
- His proposal: ban TikTok because it's Chinese and dangerous, though he admits his own follower count is embarrassingly low anyway.
- Defining what he's actually good at across platforms: podcasting, Instagram for the swipe-up feature, but acknowledging he's 38 and these things don't make sense to him anymore.
- Vine was an 8-second video platform with no real purpose that created brief stars, some of whom killed themselves when it shut down.
- Show business has always been brutal: 15 minutes of fame, sexual abuse from producers, the government taking 65% of earnings, foreclosure, and suicide.
- The goal used to be simple: make $1,500 a weekend on the road alone, and that was the top of the mountain.
- 1 min
The Nightmare Red Roof Inn Story
#Louis and Tim recall staying at a filthy, falling-apart Red Roof Inn with exposed wires and a price list for stolen items, and nearly getting into a fight over a lost reservation.
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- Tim remembers when he started comedy, imagining he could make $50,000 a year performing at clubs like the Funny Bone.
- His first Red Roof Inn stay involved a strip club and a conflict with the desk clerk over a pre-reserved suite.
- The motel staff claimed they had no record of the reservation despite Tim having pre-booked it.
- The Red Roof posted prices for items guests were likely to steal—microwave, picture frame—as warnings rather than actual charges.
- The hallway smelled like mold and the shower curtain was falling apart, with Tim confirming it was at least six or seven years ago.
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- 2 min
Tim transitions into a sponsored read for Keeps, an online hair loss treatment subscription service, describing its personalized plans and discreet delivery.
2moments
- Tim reflects on how well his friends are doing, with varying degrees of success
- Tim mentions he's happy to have hair and notes many friends wish they had hair too
- 1 min
Which Friends Are Actually Doing Well Now
#Reflecting on which old comedy friends have succeeded versus stalled, acknowledging that success doesn't follow a clean formula.
3moments
- Tim on why he can't help people who are struggling: there's nothing you can actually do for them.
- You can only look back at success after the fact and identify the factors—you can't just isolate those things and replicate them.
- Many of Tim's friends are doing better than they were before, though he won't name names.
- 3 min
White Guys Are Back: Diversity Hires and the Cat-Sweater Rapist Archetype
#A riff on how white male comedians were once told they weren't getting booked due to diversity hiring, evolving into a bit about the archetype of the falsely progressive "cat sweater" guy who was secretly predatory.
6moments
- White guys are back in the industry and no longer have an excuse for not succeeding.
- Writers' rooms would hire diverse staff but then add a white guy with darker sensibilities to provide offensive material as a form of diversity itself.
- The type of white guy who wouldn't get hired was the overly nice feminist who secretly wanted to rape everyone in the room.
- Tim describes the UCB cat-sweater-wearing aggressive feminist rapist archetype that was everywhere ten years ago.
- These guys always had names like Brandon or David or some variation with multiple first names.
- Tim recalls one of the shortest ill-fated podcasts from the boom called Rape Dicks, where he and Lou Gomez investigated open mic rape claims in comedy.
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- 5 min
Rape Dicks: The Old Podcast Investigating Comedy Rape Claims
#Tim and Louis recall their short-lived podcast "Rape Dicks," where they investigated open-mic rape allegations in the NYC comedy scene, including the Ray Comp/Margaret Rey Facebook feud and a deep dive into a comic accused by two women, culminating in a bizarre prank call to the accused.
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- Tim recalls investigating one of the most famous rape allegations in New York comedy and finding it got weird and cool.
- Ray Comps and Margaret Ree accusation spiral where they canceled each other out over who touched whom first.
- Facebook post claiming Mo Fafbo was a rapist, leading Tim to remember the guy ran a very woke Brooklyn comedy space.
- Mo Fafbo and the accuser ended up arguing about who raped whom, turning the entire thing into a laughing stock.
- The Glazer investigation uncovered a nonbinary person in the mix and they interviewed his roommate for a podcast.
- A comic not really in the scene got thrown out based on a screencap of an anonymous UCB worker claiming he was a rapist.
- Once Tim and Lewis spoke to people who knew the guy, they realized he was genuinely a dark individual.
- Tim concludes everybody involved was lying, but the guy might still be a rapist even if he didn't rape those specific people.
- The roommate said the guy never even brought a girl home during the time the accusation supposedly happened.
- Tim and Lewis called the accused while sitting in a bar doing research, thinking they were the original version of the Serial podcast.
- When Tim and Lewis called to say they were investigating his rape claim, the guy thought it was a cop calling.
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- 3 min
Believe All Women and the Tara Reade Precedent
#A discussion of the #MeToo movement's inconsistencies, using the Tara Reade/Joe Biden allegation as an example of how "believe all women" quietly stopped applying once it targeted a preferred political figure.
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- Me Too movement was a fad that ended after the Tara Reade allegations against Joe Biden.
- Tara Reade was a Biden staffer in the '90s who made rape claims and later defected to Russia.
- Once someone accuses a sacred cow, supporters suddenly clarify that 'believe all women' doesn't actually mean that.
- Tim argues 'believe all women' is psychotic — the craziest person you know is guaranteed to be a woman.
- Nick pushes back that the phrase was meant to direct pressure at institutions like police, not replace investigation.
- The Tara Reade case proves the slogan never required actual nuance, because supporters had no problem with collateral damage.
- Online, 'believe all women' became a blind mob response — someone posts a vague accusation and strangers reply with hashtag support.
- Tim jokes about being taken down and represented by two groups: Selena Gomez and himself as 'rape dicks.'
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- 1 min
Trying to Get Caitlyn Jenner to Skankfest
#Louis recounts Tim's failed attempt to book Caitlyn Jenner for Skankfest, and a story of her showing up to a friend's birthday party in LA alongside Kim Jong-il impersonators and Eli Roth.
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- Tim claims open mic comedy doesn't have more sexual assault than anywhere else, citing his own building's issues.
- Caitlyn Jenner came to a friend's party in Los Angeles.
- Tim called someone saying he wanted to break the internet by bringing Caitlyn Jenner to the event.
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- 2 min
Caitlyn Jenner: Trans Republican and Anti-Trans-Athlete Advocate
#Tim praises Caitlyn Jenner as a symbol of full equality for trans people being criticized by the left, then reads her tweet opposing trans women in women's sports.
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- Tim pitches hanging out with Caitlyn Jenner as hilarious
- She told Tim she taught all her kids to be punctual—Tim notes it's a very dad thing to say
- Tim calls trans Republicans the next step in equality, proven when Twitter kids call her a Nazi but use the right pronouns
- A tweet claiming Jenner stole podium slots from women as a biological male
- Tim argues Jenner is the authority on trans athletics since she's a former gold medalist who transitioned
- Most people logically agree on biological facts but extremists on the left push absurd positions, like gun nuts on the right
- The trans athletes debate mirrors extremist gun advocates who reject any regulation whatsoever
- 2 min
Should the US Field an All-Female Olympic Team of Trans Athletes
#A hypothetical riff about the US strategically using trans athletes to dominate women's Olympic sports, extending into a bit about the best dart player in the world necessarily being a man.
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- Tim argues Caitlyn Jenner should have a gun and head the tobacco and firearms bureau.
- Women swimmers and shot putters invested years becoming elite athletes before facing new competition for scholarships.
- Tim points out that an all-female US Olympic team would lose to other countries fielding biological men.
- If America fields an all-female Olympic team and dominates everybody, that isn't the worst idea.
- Men shouldn't theoretically have an advantage in darts, but the world's best dart player is definitely a guy.
- Tim's sister got fourth-row Eras Tour tickets because her husband is gay and can secure them.
- 2 min
The Eras Tour and Not Getting Taylor Swift's Appeal
#The group considers going to the Eras Tour together, discusses Taylor Swift being mad at the Adam Friedland Show over the Matty Healy controversy, and Tim admits her appeal is lost on him, comparing her to Kelly Ripa and Mario Lopez as people everyone default-loves.
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- Tim calls Taylor Swift a mediocre talent, doubts she's even aware of his opinion.
- Nobody is actually a Mario Lopez fan, yet he's welcomed into every American home anyway.
- Tim preferred Kathie Lee Gifford when she was miserable on air with a cheating husband rather than performing niceness.
- He's suspicious of celebrities whose entire pitch is 'I'm nice and everyone loves me'—those are the most sinister people.
- Ellen DeGeneres proved this point; she built her brand on being America's nice person and it blew up.
- Taylor Swift issued a statement after a fan died from heat stroke at her Brazil concert with the line 'with a shattered heart.'
- Her full statement: 'It is with a shattered heart that I say we lost a fan,' followed by 'I don't know much about her but I knew she was beautiful'—exemplifying the performative sympathy he distrusts.
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Tim reads and mocks Taylor Swift's overly sentimental, handwritten-font Instagram statement after a fan died at her Brazil concert, contrasting it with Travis Scott's lack of response and recounting the deadly 2003 Great White nightclub fire.
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- Taylor Swift's statement about having a 'shattered heart' doesn't pass the smell test to Tim—something about describing real emotion in the fakest way possible.
- Reading Swift's full statement: 'I'm writing these words but it is with a shattered heart that I say we lost a fan earlier tonight before my show.'
- The statement is typed but rendered in a handwritten font, which Tim finds suspicious and bizarre as a choice.
- Comparing Swift's response to Travis Scott's behavior after deaths at his concert, where people actually criticized him for continuing the show.
- The Great White concert fire in Rhode Island: pyrotechnics caused a massive blaze in a tiny venue with only one exit near the merchandise table.
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- 5 min
Wanting Toughness From Taylor Swift and Defending Her Success Anyway
#Tim riffs on wanting more grit and less sentimentality from Taylor Swift, comparing her music to Taco Bell menu variations, while ultimately defending her right to be massively popular despite critics.
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- Tim wants to see toughness from Taylor Swift — life isn't fair, every moment matters, the kind of hardship that comes with actual struggle.
- He imagines her acknowledging the weight of fame: she has to get on stage and perform, not always because she wants to but because she has to.
- The nostalgia angle bothers him — all these 35-year-old women reliving summer camp through her music.
- Taylor Swift has essentially made one song thirty different ways, and that's what the biggest thing ever is in a rotten society.
- Tim defends pop culture accessibility as a hamster wheel people hop on, not because everyone is stupid but because it works.
- The sheer ubiquity of her on social media creates inevitable fatigue — you get tired of it being pushed on you every day.
- Matt Rowe is getting attacked, and now everyone has opinions about comedy and whether he did anything wrong besides make a joke.
- Tim's real point: when a paralyzing force of consensus says something is the greatest thing ever, there should be a few people willing to say wait a minute.
- God bless Taylor Swift and good for her — he's just advocating for the existence of dissent, like people who question In-N-Out's universal acclaim.
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- 1 min
Our Generation Wanted Grunge and Suffering Women, Not Alanis the Musical
#Reflecting on how their generation craved raw, suffering female artists like Alanis Morissette, and Tim's horrified review of seeing the "Jagged Little Pill" musical.
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- Our generation wanted grunge and suffering women, not Alanis Morissette the musical.
- Tim saw the Janis or Alanis Morissette play musical and describes it as the worst thing he's ever seen.
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Marc Maron vs. Matt Rife: Is the Beef Necessary
#Extended discussion of Marc Maron publicly attacking rising comic Matt Rife, comparing it to Maron's old feud with Dane Cook, debating whether "comedy beef" and gatekeeping critics like Sean L. McCarthy ("the Comic's Comic") serve any purpose.
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- Marc Maron going after everyone, comparing Matt Rife to Dane Cook and suggesting anti-woke comics like Bill Maher have to die sooner.
- Tim notes Maron is always nice to him personally even though he thinks Maron hates him.
- The whole thing is bizarre — Matt Rife just sold tickets and makes people happy.
- Having detractors when something grows huge is healthy, like with Taylor Swift.
- Tim suggests they should put Marc Maron in jail, maybe for other reasons.
- The path forward is creating a monoculture with one musician: Taylor Swift.
- Maron calls Matt Rife 'the new it boy of shitty comedy' and accuses him of alienating his female audience.
- Comparing Matt Rife to Dane Cook only works because both were popular, which bothered Maron.
- Comedy means too much to Maron; it's actually a silly job and doesn't need to be taken so seriously.
- It's healthy that someone like Maron goes around saying he doesn't like certain things, but presenting it as checking in with the comedy godfather is absurd.
- The article is by Sean L. McCarthy from the Comics Comic, who came to Tim's show and didn't write about it.
- McCarthy wrote condescending shit about Tim a while ago and deserves to go fuck himself.
- Branding yourself as the Comics Comic is like calling yourself the best comedian and deciding to do journalism instead.
- This whole new thing where everything's a beef is stupid — comics aren't beefing like rappers.
- Nobody cares about comedy beefs anymore because everyone's old now, everyone's 40, everyone's going to the doctor.
- Nobody's in the streets like that anymore.
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- 3 min
No One Cares About Comedy Beefs Anymore
#Tim argues comedians shouldn't need to like each other and that beefs like Anthony Cumia's grudge against him don't matter, while still defending Maron's cantankerous role in the industry.
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- Nobody cares about comedy beefs anymore—people don't have to like everyone they know.
- Tim respects that old comics like Marin don't care and argues you need a cantankerous guy to push back against new trends.
- This isn't even a beef—it's just an old comic doing his bit of hating everything, which has been his thing for 30 years.
- Starting in comedy, Tim always thought of it as 'us and them,' rooting for comics regardless of style or background.
- Watching other comedians blow up—Matt Riff, Shane, Andrew Schultz—is good for comedy overall because rising ticket sales lift everyone.
- Comedy used to bring together people from completely different backgrounds—college graduates, homeless people, old ladies—all just trying to get funny.
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Rooting for Comics Who Blow Up: Matt Rife, Schulz, and Amy Schumer's Israel Takes
#Tim explains he roots for any comic's success regardless of style, then discusses Amy Schumer's outspoken pro-Israel comments and defends her willingness to alienate fans given her wealth and platform.
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- Tim explains the problem with comedians becoming famous: they stop being part of culture and become part of celebrity.
- If you have enough money to say whatever you want, not using that power to upset people defeats the purpose.
- Amy Schumer's Israel tweets seemed intentionally provocative rather than calculated, which Tim respects from a comic.
- The Rogan n-word compilation controversy differs because Rogan doesn't think people should use the word casually.
- Tim believes Rogan genuinely regrets using the word, partly because he doesn't want his kids saying that Planet of the Apes joke.
- Joe Rogan considered how his daughters might repeat offensive material when deciding not to keep making those jokes.
- 3 min
Brief discussion of Joe Rogan's regret over an old compilation clip using a racial slur, followed by closing plugs for Nick Mullen's and Louis J. Gomez's specials, Gas Digital Network shows, upcoming tour dates, and a story about Gas Digital's chaotic early ad-sales meetings.
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- Tim saw the Joe Rogan n-word headline and notes he's already heard the word before at Gas Digital.
- Tim jokes they've solved so many problems in comedy but he's caused more problems for himself and is getting three lawsuits.
- White people colonize islands with pedophiles no matter what, Tim observes about Puerto Rico.
- Nick Mullen's special drops Sunday on the Adam Friedland Show YouTube channel with Abby Martin, possibly premiering with a livestream and studio party.
- Luis J. Gomez runs Gas Digital Network, home to Legion of Skanks, The Real Ass Podcast, and Part of the Problem with Dave Smith.
- Tim's upcoming Meaty Ogre tour hits Lisbon, Portugal with 15 people, which he wonders won't turn a profit.
- Matt and Shane discussed Tim's early Gas Digital days when meetings happened in Ralph's house with random hires like a Staten Island woman named Brenda handling ads.
- Both guests wrap up the show with compliments and plans to see each other soon.
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