Episode 246 · The Ben Avery Era
#246 - I Love The CIA (with Whitney Webb) | The Tim Dillon Show
with Whitney Webb
Apr 4, 2021 · 1:18:37 · 546,000 views · 23 segments, 155 moments indexed
Tim is invited over to a big tech company guy's house in Austin, Texas, plans a performance at a bitcoin conference in Miami, and has on muckraking journalist Whitney Webb to discuss their excitement about the Pope's plans for God's…
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- 2 min
Playing Pickleball With a Tech Billionaire in Austin
#Tim recounts an awkward engagement with a big Austin tech figure, meeting through a mutual friend, a sparse hummus-and-strawberry lunch, and being invited to play pickleball, a hybrid of tennis and ping pong.
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- Tim and the show just returned from meeting a tech billionaire in Austin through a mutual guide.
- The billionaire didn't seem to know who Tim was or what he did when they arrived.
- The promised lunch turned out to be just hummus and a strawberry, typical of what successful tech people eat.
- Tim and Ben were supposed to play together but were told as beginners they should play with the other people instead.
- Ben turned out to be terrible at pickleball and kept illegally entering the kitchen area during play.
- Tim and Ben showed up in jeans because they didn't know it was raining and didn't realize what they were walking into.
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- 3 min
Ben's Humiliating Pickleball Performance
#Tim and Ben argue over how the pickleball match actually went, with Tim insisting he served brilliantly and won more games while mocking Ben for cheating by encroaching on the kitchen and running around wildly in front of the rich hosts.
9moments
- Tim played tennis as a kid and felt he was doing pretty well at pickleball.
- Ben was aggressively trying to hit the ball in front of other players and failing miserably at it.
- Tim charged the net a couple of times and found it embarrassing.
- Tim claims he does what he does well, while Ben likes to pretend he does everything well.
- After serving, Tim believes he should be done for the point rather than running around the court like a psychopath.
- Rich successful people were judging them while Tim was performing well and Ben was running around the court embarrassingly.
- Tim felt bad for Ben and was embarrassed for him during the whole spectacle.
- Ben claims the instructor told him he was going to be very good at pickleball.
- Tim disputes that one or two good moments constitute a review of Ben's entire performance for the day.
- 7 min
Declaring Total Love for Big Tech and Big Pharma
#In a sarcastic monologue, Tim insists he's never influenced by anyone while praising Palantir, the CIA, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, and pharmaceutical companies, joking about wanting more vaccine doses and being fine with surveillance.
12moments
- Tim declares Palantir a great company because they have all people's information in one place.
- He expresses affection for the CIA, calling them efficient and mysterious, and suggests people stop dwelling on their past mistakes.
- Tim says he has no problem with surveillance of phone calls, emails, or knowing what medications people take.
- Jeff Bezos is a great guy, and Tim wants things delivered by drone.
- Mark Zuckerberg gets a bad rap but is actually a sweet boy who created something wacky.
- Jack Dorsey created a platform that makes Tim feel better about the world and meaningful dialogue.
- Tim loves people in tech and thinks society should get off their back.
- He appreciates that tech billionaires don't have expressions on their faces, finding it refreshing and modern.
- People should be given a list of words they can say, which will be shorter than those they cannot.
- Tim wants to get the vaccine six or seven times, clarifying he hasn't been co-opted by meeting successful people.
- He's realizing how lucky he is that an industry is taking care of everyone.
- Tim has no problem with people pooping in the street and considers himself a humanitarian for that position.
Central Intelligence AgencyJack DorseyJeff BezosMark ZuckerbergPalantirPatreonEric Schmidt
- 1 min
A mock sponsorship read for the National Security Agency, joking that they keep Americans safe by gathering information in undisclosed ways.
2moments
- Tim does a fake NSA sponsorship read, claiming the agency's priority is keeping Americans safe through unspecified information-gathering methods.
- The NSA doesn't care how they get the information, only what they do with it based on their own judgment.
- 2 min
Fake Moderna and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Apology Ad
#SponsorBill and Melinda Gates Foundation (fake)A satirical dual sponsor read for Moderna and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, with Tim mock-apologizing for past criticism of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and for bringing up Epstein connections.
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- Moderna vaccine ad: two shots, digital proof of vaccination for entry to events.
- Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation apology: Tim admits he's said untrue things about Bill and calls himself a stupid pig.
- Tim directs listeners to the Gates Foundation website for accurate information and apologizes for inappropriate statements.
- 2 min
A satirical dual sponsor read for Moderna and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, with Tim mock-apologizing for past criticism of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and for bringing up Epstein connections.
3moments
- Moderna vaccine ad: two shots, digital proof of vaccination for entry to events.
- Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation apology: Tim admits he's said untrue things about Bill and calls himself a stupid pig.
- Tim directs listeners to the Gates Foundation website for accurate information and apologizes for inappropriate statements.
- 3 min
Fake Apology to Big Pharma and Chelsea Handler Praise
#Continuing the bit, Tim declares he's been "dead wrong" about pharma, joking about kids being put on adderall and lithium as a lifelong pipeline, and praises Chelsea Handler's documentaries.
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- Tim does a fake apology to Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett for calling them frauds and linking them to Epstein.
- He admits he's a fat opportunist who invents connections between unrelated people.
- Tim announces Gates and Buffett as sponsors of his new show where he'll be vaccinated on stage.
- His core beliefs and values have always been a deep love of the intelligence community and big pharma.
- People are lucky to start Adderall at three, move to puberty blockers at nine, then lithium at twelve, and stay on medication cocktails until death.
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- 5 min
Elizabeth Holmes Love Confession and Fear of Retaliation
#Tim declares his love for Elizabeth Holmes, jokes that his phone stopped working since leaving the tech host's house, and riffs with Ben about whether they'll be invited back or assassinated for questioning Bill Gates.
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- Tim recants his previous criticism of the pharmaceutical industry, declaring he's been "dead wrong" about everything he's said before today.
- Tim endorses Chelsea Handler's documentaries about Black people and says he believes in her mission.
- Since leaving someone's house, Tim's cell phone stopped working and his car makes a weird sound, though he doesn't think it's related.
- Tim estimates a 50% chance they'll be invited back to whoever they just visited.
- Tim uses the opportunity to declare his love for Elizabeth Holmes, saying she made "one mistake."
- His co-host points out Tim is nervous and thinks they're going to kill him over the visit.
- Tim worries they might kill his co-host instead, but notes he did all the ads he was supposed to do so there shouldn't be an issue.
- Tim apologizes for questioning Bill Gates's plan to shoot a missile of dust at the sun, saying Gates should shoot missiles at whatever he wants.
- Tim insists to his audience that he has integrity.
- 5 min
A real ad for the Bitcoin 2021 conference in Miami featuring Jack Dorsey, Chamath, Tony Hawk, and Michael Saylor, during which Tim and Ben admit they have no idea what they're actually supposed to do at the event.
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- Bitcoin 2021 Conference ad reads: Jack Dorsey, Chamath, Tony Hawk, and Michael Saylor announced as headliners in Miami June 4-5.
- Tim admits nobody at the conference has told him what he's actually supposed to do—they've emailed nine times with no response.
- Program includes bitcoin-powered arcade games, art gallery, Tony Hawk skating a half pipe, and an after party Tim might be opening.
- Tim questions whether he's getting paid beyond the appearance fee and whether the promo code actually benefits him.
- Tim wonders aloud if they'll be podcasting inside a half pipe while Tony Hawk is actively skating in it.
- This event will be more entertaining than a typical comedy festival precisely because nobody knows what's going to happen.
- Discussion of wearing dogecoin merchandise to a bitcoin-focused conference, despite the event supposedly being bitcoin-exclusive.
- Proposal to have Gary Vee as a guest on the live podcast at the conference, offering to pay him to appear.
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- 10 min
Fantasy Booking Bizarre Guests for the Bitcoin Conference
#Tim and Ben brainstorm absurd potential guests for the bitcoin conference including GaryVee coaching a recovering heroin addict, Alex Jones storming the stage, Roseanne, Chamath explaining bitcoin to her, and various podcast-world names.
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- Tim wants to bring Gary Vee to the Bitcoin Conference to instruct his recovering heroin addict friend Ryan on how to build a brand.
- Suggestion to book Little Xan as a guest, with Tim dead serious about needing someone to appear.
- Tim accuses his producer of lying about pickleball and blowing high-profile things while wearing Clarks instead of tennis shoes.
- Roseanne as a potential guest, with Tim asking if they can fly her to the Bitcoin Conference from Hawaii.
- Tim's fantasy booking: getting Chamath to explain Bitcoin to Roseanne, creating a fusion of two completely different worlds.
- Whitney Webb announced as an upcoming guest to discuss getting thrown off Patreon and vaccine passports.
- Tim pitches sneaking Alex Jones into the conference through the back door like the Kool-Aid man, then realizes he just publicly revealed the plan.
- Discussion of why they can't bring on Ghislaine Maxwell as a guest, acknowledging the line you can't cross with a human trafficker.
- Tim proposes Eric Weinstein as the perfect guest for the Bitcoin Conference.
- Tim jokes about hosting the conference, talking about trans people and puberty blockers for three hours while attendees demand they discuss Bitcoin instead.
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- 4 min
An ad read for Sheath Underwear spirals into a dark, absurd fabricated backstory about the founder murdering his family and working with Afghan warlords and Guantanamo guards before inventing comfortable underwear.
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- Robert Patron, Sheath Underwear founder, served multiple tours in Iraq before committing murder.
- Tim describes the founder killing his wife and two children, then starting an underwear company.
- Tim frames familicide as common behavior among heroes, pivoting to the product's comfort.
- The founder learned about proper underwear support from Afghan warlords who were sexually abusing children.
- U.S. military supported pedophile opium farmers as warlords because they'd supposedly build democracy.
- Guards at Guantanamo Bay struggled with sweat during interrogations and realized they needed better underwear support.
- The founder developed the concept after shooting Benazir Bhutto in the face in Karachi, Pakistan.
- When he rejected an Afghan warlord's offer of a child, they suggested he invent underwear instead.
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- 1 min
Tim introduces returning guest Whitney Webb, calling her the tech community's favorite reporter, from an undisclosed location.
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- Tim welcomes Whitney Webb back as the tech community's favorite reporter.
- Tim asks Whitney about what happened with Patreon.
- 4 min
Whitney explains how Patreon threatened to suspend her account over an off-platform article on her website criticizing the AstraZeneca vaccine's developer's ties to a eugenics-linked institute, despite not citing factual errors.
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- Tim notes this Patreon suspension happened while Whitney Webb was moving countries after six years in Chile.
- Patreon sent Webb a suspension notice over medical misinformation but left the examples blank in the initial email.
- When Webb asked for specifics, Patreon provided links to articles on her personal website that were never posted on Patreon, some not even written by her.
- Webb refused to delete the articles and was suspended because Patreon claimed their community guidelines apply to her personal website.
- Other independent journalists including James Corbett and Ryan Christiana were also censored under the same policy, all for articles critical of vaccines.
- Webb's flagged article was about the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, specifically examining the developers' history of shady safety trials.
- One vaccine developer is connected to the Galton Institute, the renamed British Eugenics Society that kept its eugenics name until 1989.
- The Galton Institute was named after Francis Galton, who invented eugenics and promoted improving racial stock in the West.
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- 5 min
Whitney details Patreon's admission that her article wasn't factually wrong but may have discouraged 'preventative countermeasures,' and she and Tim discuss the broader pattern of media and tech gatekeeping.
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- Patreon never specified what was factually inaccurate in the removal notice, just suspended him without examples.
- He created a backup funding system through Patreon last year after seeing the writing on the wall, which saved him from complete shutdown.
- His alternatives are RockFin for his podcast and Unlimited Hangout's website, where he set up a Patreon-equivalent subscription system.
- Tim argues that Patreon censoring people for off-platform activities—articles on websites—is strange and insidious.
- Financial censorship through platform removal attacks content creators' ability to work professionally.
- Patreon's actual argument: the articles discourage people from getting vaccinated, even if they're not factually wrong.
- In follow-up emails, Patreon admitted they didn't find misinformation but objected to how the audience might react to the information.
- Tim points out that the same institutions pushing censorship promoted the Iraq War and secret torture prisons.
- Tech companies have replaced broadcast networks as the entities controlling what information people access.
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- 5 min
Whitney explains the Vaccine Credential Initiative involving Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce, and Mitre, describing plans for a combined vaccine record, digital wallet, and biometric ID, referencing Naomi Wolf's warnings.
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- Public health measures based on coercion lend themselves to vaccine hesitancy.
- Multiple countries suspended AstraZeneca for certain age groups due to safety concerns that didn't appear in trials.
- Journalists often wait months until it's safe to report stories that have already been written about elsewhere.
- The real hot issue now is vaccine passports, not just vaccination itself.
- Vaccine passports were never intended to stop with just vaccine records—they're designed to be much more expansive.
- A public-private partnership including Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce, and MITRE created the vaccine credential initiative framework months before the public push for passports.
- The framework developer at Microsoft describes scenarios where you'd need to show a vaccine passport to rent a car in the future.
- Bill Gates' vaccine alliance partnered with Mastercard to combine digital payment with vaccine cards, currently piloting in Africa.
- These vaccine passports are intended to combine a digitized vaccine record, digital wallet, and biometric ID all in one system.
- Tim questions why Mastercard would need any of your financial information for a vaccine passport.
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- 3 min
Whitney explains Mastercard's partnership with Gavi for biometric vaccine-linked digital IDs in Africa and reveals the Council for Inclusive Capitalism headed nominally by the Pope, featuring epstein-linked billionaires reimagining capitalism.
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- Mastercard and Gavi partnership uses biometric ID tied to vaccine registry and electronic health records as a unified access system.
- The Council for Inclusive Capitalism, officially headed by the Pope, includes Mastercard, Visa, and major global corporations.
- Council members include figures tied to Jeffrey Epstein and the Mega Group, people capitalism has already worked extremely well for.
- Stakeholder capitalism promoted by the Pope-led council and World Economic Forum calls for global public-private partnerships as the model of governance.
- Public-private partnership is a historical term that has another name: fascism—one entity with monopoly on force and production that cannot be challenged.
- Chris Hedges describes the corporate state as the most powerful force in the world: mega corporations fused with the national security state.
- Tim expresses bemusement at a council supposedly led by the Pope to reimagine capitalism.
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- 2 min
An ad for North Bands custom rings made from materials like meteorite and Damascus steel, with Tim riffing about how cool it would be to own a meteorite ring.
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- North Bands makes unique men's and women's rings from meteorite, whiskey barrel, elk antler, damascus steel, and other materials.
- Tim says having a meteorite ring would genuinely improve your life and the conversation around it.
- Telling someone your ring is made of damascus steel is the ultimate flex.
- Getting someone a deer antler ring is a legitimately cool gift, especially for an uncle.
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- 1 min
An ad read for Duke Cannon's Dry Ice cooling antiperspirant aimed at guys who sweat heavily.
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- Tim pitches Duke Cannon Dry Ice antiperspirant as relief for guys who run uncomfortably hot in Las Vegas summer heat.
- The menthol formula gives the sensation of standing under an air conditioner cranked to high, not a heat lamp on broil.
- Activated charcoal combats sweat and odor with the highest level of protection available, so shirts last longer in the heat.
- Promo code DILLON gets 10% off at dukecanon.com, plus free shipping on orders over twenty dollars.
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- 3 min
Whitney explains how UK polling firm Ipsos Mori has conflicts of interest tied to Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum, arguing that polls showing public support for vaccine passports are manipulated.
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- Vaccine passports will start with basic health information and expand to include medications, mental health history, and other sensitive data.
- Officials are already planning to tie vaccine passports to biometric identity systems like facial recognition before they've even rolled out the initial version.
- Tim argues there will be significant resistance to vaccine passport implementation despite what mainstream narratives suggest.
- UK polling companies claiming vast majority support for vaccine passports have conflicts of interest—Ipsos Mori's CEO sits on the World Economic Forum and received nearly three million pounds from Bill Gates.
- Polling data has been manipulated in the past to manufacture consent, as demonstrated by the 2016 election when all major polls incorrectly predicted Hillary would win.
- The effort to manipulate public opinion aims not just to get people to accept vaccine passports but to make dissenters feel like a minority.
- Most people Tim talks to express private unease about vaccine passports and are questioning them privately, but won't do so publicly.
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- 5 min
Whitney discusses Biden's science czar nominee Eric Lander's documented meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, then pivots to skepticism about new sex trafficking charges against Ghislaine Maxwell and concerns prosecutors won't go too deep to avoid implicating themselves.
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- Biden's administration elevates the White House Office of Science and Technology to cabinet-level position for the first time.
- Eric Lander, who leads the Broad Institute, was photographed meeting with Jeffrey Epstein and has funding ties to him despite denying it.
- Tim worries mainstream media hasn't covered Lander's Epstein connection and suspects he won't be questioned about it at his confirmation hearing.
- Skepticism about the expanded Ghislaine Maxwell charges because the deeper you look into Epstein, the more clear it becomes they can't let her actually go to trial.
- The FBI and national security intelligence communities knew what Epstein was doing and were involved with him to an extent that needs public understanding.
- Epstein victims and observers have expressed skepticism about recent claims against Maxwell, particularly about threats to feed her to alligators.
- Some people fabricate Epstein encounters to profit from the scandal, making up behaviors he would never have done according to people who knew him.
- The latest charges against Maxwell came because her lawyers were positioned to potentially get the whole case dropped, which would have been scandalous for prosecutors.
- In the original indictment against Maxwell, prosecutors admitted she sexually assaulted the victims but didn't charge her with sexual assault at that time.
- Prosecutors apparently saved the sexual assault charges for later and are now filing them as expanded charges against Maxwell.
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- 4 min
Whitney talks about her forthcoming book on Epstein, her move from Chile to the US, fears that internet archives like the Wayback Machine will be scrubbed before Maxwell's trial, and plugs Rokfin and Unlimited Hangout.
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- Whitney worries about censorship of Epstein-related information as the trial approaches, including potential alterations to the Wayback Machine.
- Her book is scheduled to release just days before the trial, though she may need to delay it due to recent moves and childcare issues from the Chile situation.
- Tim promotes her work on Rockfin and Unlimited Hangout, noting she's written the best reporting on Epstein and other difficult territory.
- Removing someone from a platform for factual reporting—however uncomfortable—that doesn't distort facts amounts to penalizing the conclusions the audience might draw, approaching thought crime.
- Tim argues that censoring criticism of vaccine products sends a message: criticize big pharma and you'll be censored, setting a precedent for suppressing critique of other industries.
- Bernie Madoff became the lone wolf scapegoat for the financial industry, allowing the larger system to escape scrutiny, the same way the Sackler family now serves as the isolated target for pharma sins.
- Criticism of anyone in pharma beyond the Sacklers gets you labeled a hysteric, anti-vaxxer, or lunatic, which isolates the problem and protects the rest of the industry from accountability.
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- 2 min
They discuss how criticism of pharma is treated as lunacy, comparing the Sackler family scapegoating to Bernie Madoff, and noting Donald Rumsfeld's history running Gilead before becoming Secretary of Defense.
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- Tim discusses people facing criticism for questioning puberty blockers prescribed to children identifying as trans.
- When Adderall and Ritalin came out, there were legitimate questions about medicating children at all.
- America is heavily medicated, but anxiety and depression often stem from situational, dietary, or hormonal causes rather than deficiencies requiring pills.
- The pharmaceutical industry's power is barely understood compared to constant scrutiny of the national security state or oil and gas.
- Donald Rumsfeld went from heading Gilead, a major pharmaceutical company, to becoming Secretary of Defense under George W. Bush—a revolving door between the Pentagon and pharma.
- Tim notes the odd overlap of being a pharmaceutical CEO and then Secretary of Defense.
- Tim jokes about the pope who resigned possibly becoming CEO of AstraZeneca as the next revolving-door move.
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Tim wraps up the interview joking about a resigned pope becoming a pharma CEO and Maxwell someday running a pharmaceutical company, then thanks Whitney and plugs her outlets one more time.
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- Whitney Webb discusses her podcast and video content on Unlimited Hangout, covering Orwellian developments that don't receive mainstream coverage.
- Tim invites Whitney back to cover the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, joking about a potential exclusive courtroom broadcast.
- Whitney explains there won't be cameras in the courtroom and Maxwell has appeared via Zoom for litigation so far.
- Tim predicts Maxwell will be out in a few years running a pharmaceutical company, with her sister Isabelle heading up World Economic Forum technology initiatives.
- Tim thanks Whitney Webb and directs listeners to support her work on Unlimited Hangout and Rockfin.
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