Episode 244 · The Ben Avery Era
#244 - Dobrik's Death Count | The Tim Dillon Show
Mar 21, 2021 · 1:13:01 · 474,000 views · 17 segments, 126 moments indexed
Tim Dillon is in the studio once again to discuss David Dobrik's dance with the devil, a realtor with a brain injury, and people who refer to their apartment complex as "having everything you could need".
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- 4 min
David Dobrik's Massacre and Non-Apology
#Tim opens with an absurdist bit claiming YouTuber David Dobrik shot and killed eight people (mostly Asian) at a massage parlor, prompting Dollar Shave Club to drop him; he then "analyzes" Dobrik's real apology video as if it addresses the fake murders while ignoring an actual news story about a Vlog Squad rape allegation.
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- David Dobrik, a major YouTuber, recently shot up a massage parlor in Atlanta and killed eight people, most of them Asian.
- Dollar Shave Club has ended their relationship with David Dobrik in response to the shootings.
- Tim notes the incongruity: Dobrik is usually known for giving away Lamborghinis and telling people he loves them, making this shooting completely out of character.
- Dobrik released a three-minute apology video addressing the killings.
- Tim explains the shooting may not have been racially motivated but rather stemmed from Dobrik's sex addiction and religious anger at sex workers.
- Dobrik killed six Asian people and two white people in the massage parlor shooting.
- Tim understands why advertisers would drop someone after they shot eight people, though he generally dislikes brands dropping talent.
- 2 min
Google Searches for 'David Dobrik Murders Asians in Atlanta'
#Continuing the bit, Tim has his producer Google whether Dobrik actually committed the Atlanta massacre, gets confused when nothing comes up, and wonders if it's a cover-up, before pivoting to musing whether Dobrik is bad enough yet to come on his show.
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- David Dobrik apologizes for shooting eight people, unclear if before or after arrest.
- Tim defends separating the art from the artist—Dobrik's murder shouldn't diminish his TikToks and vines.
- Dobrik claims consent is super important to him, whether shooting with friends or strangers.
- Tim interprets the apology as an admission the shooting wasn't consensual, unlike his other pranks.
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- 7 min
Gay Exorcism Dates and Austin Real Estate Agents with Brain Injuries
#Tim recounts a date with a Texas man whose mother performed an exorcism on him for being gay, then segues into complaining about looking at houses in Austin, describing realtors as brain-damaged, autoimmune-disorder-having, sloth-like creatures, and joking about pretending Ben's wife exists so people don't think they're gay.
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- Tim describes a David Dobrik prank that supposedly involved shooting eight people in a spa with real bullets instead of fake ones.
- Tim wants Dobrik to explain a video about killing people and whether he's grown as a content creator.
- A woman accused someone named Seth in Dobrik's vlog squad of rape in 2018 during a group sex video.
- Tim questions why sexual assault allegations are overshadowing what he believes was Dobrik actually shooting people in Atlanta.
- Google results attribute the Atlanta murders to someone else, leading Tim to suspect Dobrik's PR team found a patsy.
- Tim suggests Dobrik might come on the show in a few weeks and hopes he can still pursue his dream of hosting a Tonight Show despite the allegations.
- Tim went on a date in Texas with a man who said his mother performed an exorcism on him when he came out as gay.
- The date's response to the exorcism was casual indifference because he was high at the time.
- Another man Tim met said his father took him on a drive and told him he'd burn in hell after coming out as gay.
- Everyone Tim has dated in Texas has wild coming-out stories involving parental rejection or religious punishment.
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- 11 min
Dan Carney's Apartment and 'Everything You Need' Culture
#Tim rants at length about his friend Dan Carney's soulless new apartment complex, mocking the phrase "you got everything you need" as basic consumerist culture, and contrasts it with wanting to live around eccentric, damaged, colorful characters instead.
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- Tim's father deflected from his coming out by asking about a missing hundred-dollar bill meant for the cleaning lady.
- Tim argues Austin real estate is overvalued, with ten offers on every house including algorithmic bids from non-human buyers.
- Half-time realtors trying to get licensed while working other jobs—bagging groceries or nannying—represent the state of real estate agents in Austin.
- Tim observes that many realtors appear to have traumatic brain injuries or autoimmune disorders and collapse into couches.
- When showing properties, Tim mentions Ben's wife to avoid appearing gay, then tells realtors he still sucks Dick as a negotiation tactic.
- Dan Carney got an apartment in a complex where salespeople say you have everything you need—a phrase Tim despises as basic consumerism.
- Tim rants against cheap apartment buildings next to TJ Maxx designed to keep people contained with minimal amenities while claiming they have everything.
- Life requires culture, tragedy, and character—people faking deaths, in cults, with brain injuries—not just a gym, pool, and Whole Foods.
- Tim considered buying the apartment building where Steve Bing jumped out the window so he could kill himself from the same unit and create a cursed legacy.
- New apartment complexes are devoid of character compared to older buildings where Tim has lived around people with real stories and trauma.
- Tim requires living around people with traumatic brain injuries and invented autoimmune disorders—glazed-eyed middle-aged women claiming lupus—not sanitized complexes.
- Tim rejects the Carney complex lifestyle despite being happy for Dan's success, insisting life must contain messiness and dysfunction.
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- 4 min
Tim addresses Patreon complaints about owing a backlogged Rothschild-tier episode, announces a bit about visiting Omaha for the Franklin Scandal, and jokes about a fan named Young Don ("the sauce god") demanding content while showing off his abs.
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- Katie Herzog is the only lesbian left in America and people hate her for it, Tim says.
- Jesse Singal wrote that maybe seven-year-olds shouldn't have gender-reconstructive surgery and got labeled a Nazi.
- Tim announces a two-hour Rothschilds-tier Patreon video episode coming for members owed backlog content.
- Ben is coming to Omaha, Nebraska for a special episode outside the Franklin Credit Union building.
- Tim and Ray Comp covered the Franklin scandal as journalists, planning to visit locations from the case.
- Harold Anderson, the Omaha World Herald publisher and alleged CIA operative, had a barn associated with the scandal.
- Tim debates whether to put out a call for Franklin scandal witnesses in Omaha, worrying about trolls.
- They might drive to Iowa to interview Noreen Gosch, though wondering if there's anything new after fifty years.
- If Johnny Gosch is alive and doing stand-up comedy now, Tim says he should go back to being raped.
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Defending David Dobrik and Austin Comedy Crowds
#Tim wraps up the fake Dobrik saga by declaring support for him despite the invented murders, then complains about soft, sparsely-filled Austin comedy audiences due to COVID restrictions before introducing his guests.
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- Living in young professional complexes becomes awkward when you bring up MK Ultra and everyone stares blankly.
- Young Don, a talented cartoonist, is allegedly leading an insurrection on the Patreon demanding three hours of content.
- Tim describes Young Don as probably the coolest fan of the show, though disputes claims he's particularly jacked.
- Most cartoonists Tim met at Nickelodeon were overweight pedophiles whose only sexual attractions were to cereal.
- Tim supports David Dobrik despite Dobrik shooting people, claiming he seems like someone who will make it right.
- Dobrik lost his partnership with Dollar Shave Club after shooting six Asian people and two white people.
- Some Austin comedy audiences have been soft, though suburban venues draw dedicated crowds from 45 minutes away.
- Austin shows have disappointed Tim in the early slots, with sparse attendance in a theater that seats 1200.
- Removing audience members to reduce capacity has killed theater energy and provides no actual COVID protection anyway.
- 1 min
A straightforward sponsor read for BlueChew, the chewable erectile dysfunction medication service, including promo code and signup details.
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- BlueChew is an online service delivering Viagra and Cialis active ingredients in chewable format at a fraction of the cost.
- Tim pitches the service: no doctor's office visits, no awkward conversations, no pharmacy lines, ships discreetly to your door.
- BlueChew tablets are chewable, made in the USA, and ship direct at a cheaper price than pharmacy alternatives.
- 1 min
A sponsor read for Keeps, the hair loss prevention service, covering stats on male pattern baldness and how the virtual doctor consultation service works.
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- Tim reads Keeps hair loss ad: two out of three men experience hair loss by 35, over 50 million Americans suffer from male pattern baldness.
- 4 min
Tim introduces Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal of Blocked and Reported, who explain the years-long campaign accusing Jesse of stalking and harassing trans women online despite no evidence, including sock puppet accounts, Nicole Cliffe and Jude Doyle's claims, and Brianna Wu's unproven 'receipts' tweet.
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- Substack is a platform for writers to fund journalistic endeavors through fan bases.
- Jesse and Katie both wrote articles about detransitioners and faced backlash for it.
- In Katie's case, people burned stacks of the paper and put up stickers calling her a Nazi sympathizer around Seattle.
- Sock puppet accounts started appearing on Twitter trying to manufacture a #MeToo incident against Jesse, including false accusations of sending unsolicited explicit images.
- Bigger-name writers like Nicole Cliff and Jude Doyle amplified the accusations to their platforms without evidence.
- Jude Doyle wrote that Jesse is well-known for stalking trans women, using that exact term.
- Katie and Jesse offered a $60,000 bounty for Brianna Wu to produce actual evidence of the stalking claims.
- The accusations have escalated from calling someone problematic to labeling them a dangerous criminal stalker.
- The narrative frames Jesse as someone who follows people home at night if they disagree with him, moving beyond platform denial to suggesting criminal behavior.
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Katie explains her theory that LGBTQ activist infrastructure pivoted to trans issues after the 2015 gay marriage victory, with Jesse adding that online discourse distorts the image of what average trans people actually want compared to the vocal minority on Twitter.
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- Tim wrote Substack posts documenting how rumors about him have spread over the years.
- The whole point of the rumor campaign is to sow doubt about whether rejection from mainstream outlets is based on merit or the smear.
- Tim describes Jesse's version of stalking—walking up behind someone to tell her why she's wrong, nothing sexual about it.
- Tim jokes about tapping women on the subway correcting their feminism.
- Jude Doyle, formerly on the comedy beat writing articles about jokes he didn't like, is now bothering someone else.
- Tim admits he gets bored of trans stuff because a lot of trans people are products of online culture, which he loathes.
- Jesse's theory: trans issues took over the cultural conversation because of the success of gay marriage in 2015.
- After gay marriage was legalized, organizations and media outlets pivoted from that cause to trans rights instead of shutting down.
- A graph tracking words like gay, lesbian, bisexual, and trans over time shows a dramatic shift in media coverage.
- Ten years ago, activism was mostly about gays and lesbians; now trans issues dominate while gay and lesbian rights are a small part.
- This issue that really affects a very small percentage of the population has become huge in media coverage.
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- 6 min
Tim riffs on comedians falsely claiming bisexuality for audience approval and questions why trans identity claims go unquestioned, leading into a discussion with Katie and Jesse about how ambiguous terms like 'queer' and 'non-binary' let people fake identity for social credit, comparing it to white academics faking minority racial identities.
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- Tim distinguishes between what people see on Twitter and the average trans person who just wants to be left alone and access hormones.
- Digital-native generation relies on online relationships and tribal belonging to gain clout, drawing circles around themselves to declare identity rather than encountering diverse people in the real world.
- Tim argues that if he were trans, he wouldn't want fake trans people in the movement, just like he only wants real comedians doing comedy.
- Men on stage claim bisexuality without actually sleeping with men, gaining audience favor by declaring queer thoughts while remaining fundamentally straight.
- Vague terms like queer and non-binary are easy to adopt without changing behavior, unlike actually faking a different race, which requires visible effort.
- White academics have been caught posing as members of races they don't belong to, which requires perming hair and tanning—harder to fake than just declaring an identity online.
- Younger people have fragile identities and put mental illnesses in their Twitter bios, trying to be original and unique in a pack-mentality, play-by-numbers way.
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The group discusses how digitally-native younger generations build identity and social status through online group membership rather than lived experience, referencing Abigail Shreier's Joe Rogan appearance and Tim's frustration that comedians and audiences overvalue sexual identity as the most interesting thing about a person.
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- Tim examines why people have become fragile and dependent on strangers' online validation for their sense of self.
- Online culture has flattened everybody; younger people are weird in person, don't make eye contact, and can't function at dinner because they're more comfortable online.
- Tim doesn't talk about being gay in his act because it's not interesting—it's not 1987 when people were actually dying.
- He doesn't understand why who you have sex with or your gender identity is supposed to make you an individual; he finds it the least interesting thing about anybody.
- In progressive communities, the opposite trajectory has taken hold: you're supposed to talk about identity constantly and act like online adversity has harmed you horribly.
- When some teenager sends him an Auschwitz meme, he refuses to give that kid power by treating it as a hate crime.
- People are now faking being black or biracial in media and academic culture just to gain identity points, which is weird given how much actual oppression exists in the world.
- Everything has devolved into tribalism and team sports, turning culture and identity into competing factions.
- Pushing back on defamatory claims—like calling someone a stalker—somehow gets you accused of harassment, while the original accusation faces no consequences.
- 1 min
A sponsor read for Lucy nicotine gum and lozenges, describing flavors and the subscription delivery service.
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- Tim announces he's never smoked and has no addiction problems, then pivots to pitching nicotine gum to those who do.
- The gum comes in three flavors—wintergreen, cinnamon, pomegranate—and can be chewed or sucked depending on preference.
- The pitch culminates: throw out your cigarettes, dip, and vapes and replace them with Loosey nicotine gum lozenges.
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- 2 min
A sponsor read for Magic Spoon cereal covering new limited-time flavors (cookies and cream, maple waffle), nutritional info, and the promo code discount.
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- Tim pitches Lucy nicotine gum and lozenges with promo code tim
- Magic Spoon cereal: zero grams of sugar, 13-14 grams of protein, keto-friendly and grain-free
- Magic Spoon releasing limited-time flavors: cookies and cream and maple waffle
- Fans can build custom Magic Spoon boxes from cocoa, fruity, frosted, peanut butter, and cinnamon flavors
- Tim asks if he can get cereal for free instead of just promoting it
- 6 min
The conversation turns to how mega-corporations and elite private schools use performative diversity activism and symbolic gestures to distract from exploitative labor practices, untaxed endowments, and inequality, comparing it to a Mad Men blackface disclaimer.
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- Tim on the alliance between mega corporations and woke culture as a cover for exploitation
- Companies want to continue unfair labor practices while performing activism to escape criticism
- If a self-described leftist's rhetoric is indistinguishable from Raytheon's diversity statements, something's wrong
- Symbolic gestures like Mad Men disclaimers don't challenge power in any meaningful way
- Private schools perform diversity trainings while sitting on billion-dollar endowments they could give to public schools
- Instead of addressing inequality, wealthy schools build waterfalls and hire diversity trainers
- Patreon's not kicking Tim off because he brings in too much money
- Tim jokes about threatening to bomb lesbian Subaru drivers and plans to tell them at the next meetup
- Substack's biggest earners—mostly cis white men with reactionary opinions—are making over a million dollars while being shut out of mainstream outlets
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- 5 min
Katie and Jesse discuss the sub stack platform, the migration threats to a rival called Ghost, the money top writers like Andrew Sullivan make, and their shared worry that the real crisis in journalism is the collapse of local news rather than the sub stack controversies.
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- Tim explains the Substack war: independent writers making significant money through newsletters, with prominent figures like Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Sullivan drawing criticism.
- Tim proposes a strategy to de-platform critics by migrating to Ghost, committing to move to any platform that three complainers switch to.
- Andrew Sullivan makes over a million dollars annually on Substack, and the controversy over his advance is overblown given his decades of experience and publishing history.
- Tim worries the real journalism crisis isn't Substack but the collapse of local news—no one covers city halls or police beats anymore, leaving a gap that won't be filled.
- Google, Craigslist, and Facebook decimated local papers over 15 years; critics complaining about Substack aren't addressing the actual threat to institutional journalism.
- Tim declares a low-profile war with the Weinstein brothers and has begun a campaign against the intellectual dark web, claiming he took Lex Fridman from them.
- He jokes that the greatest minds of our time spend all their time talking about trans issues, which he finds boring and wants to move past.
- Katie fielding a question about the drag queen story hour director's child pornography arrest, dismisses anyone who volunteers to read to children as inherently suspect.
- Tim concludes with the absurdist claim that anyone who has a child is automatically a pedophile, no other explanation.
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Tim brings up the news that the head of Drag Queen Story Hour was arrested with child porn, riffs on suspicion of anyone who wants to read to kids, and closes by having Katie and Jesse plug their Blocked and Reported podcast, Jesse's book The Quick Fix, and Katie's Moose Nuggets newsletter.
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- Tim invokes the Second Amendment while suggesting Kim should become a sperm donor.
- Tim looked up Joe Rogan fans on Instagram who offered him their home because of their furniture.
- Tim claims Airbnb has waged a complete campaign to destroy him and he can't get back on the platform.
- Two women on Airbnb called Tim fat and he argues that's ableist while questioning why they're allowed on the platform.
- Katie Herzog plugs her Substack and mentions a book called The Quick Fix about how people fall for bad pop psychology.
- Katie Herzog says she's in a bunker in western Washington and doesn't want people to find her.
- Tim declares himself the looker on the show and says if people weren't looking at him they wouldn't watch.
- Tim recalls a thin high school track runner in California he kept asking about trans issues, convinced it was Katie Herzog.
- Tim tells the runner he had no idea Katie Herzog could afford to live in that neighborhood.