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FBI Infiltrators, Ice, and the Case for Better Targets

from 155 - Death By Chocolate · #155

6 min

He argues violent activists are fetishizing controlled chaos rather than fighting real targets like ICE, floats the theory that FBI COINTELPRO-style agents stir up movements to discredit them, and mocks milkshake-throwers for not doing real charity work instead.

In this bit8 moments
  • Tasha Kuan is a gay Asian writer for Kula who wrote things Tim doesn't agree with, but Tim defends his right to be wrong.
  • The accusation that Kuan gave a list of journalists to a neo-Nazi group is serious, but Tim says he hasn't looked into it and doesn't want details.
  • Tim opposes street violence against people you disagree with, regardless of whether it's justified by your side.
  • The escalation from milkshake attacks to actual violence isn't funny like Syria's chemical weapons attacks aren't funny—there's no irony in real kids dying.
  • FBI agents have infiltrated every serious anti-government movement in the last 50 years, from COINTELPRO to the Black Panthers, stirring the pot and fomenting chaos.
  • If protesters actually cared about detained kids, they'd give milkshakes to the children in cages instead of wasting them on journalists they dislike.
  • Some protesters fetishize violence because they have meaningless lives and this controlled street conflict makes them feel part of a revolutionary struggle.
  • These people think they're revolutionaries taking an Uber to the revolution, but nobody actually cares about their civil war fantasy.
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FBITashaSyriaBlack PanthersAdam WaffenVenezuela

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