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Post-Interview Debrief: 'Best Interview We've Ever Done'
from Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou) · #136
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6 minTim and Ray break down the Kiriakou interview afterward, agreeing it might be their best episode, discussing his earnestness, institutional CIA/FBI rivalry, and wanting the Zero Dark Thirty analyst on the show.
- 2:16:17Tim calls the interview "the best interview we've ever done."
- 2:16:34Guest successfully charmed them despite initial intention to criticize him hard.
- 2:16:53Tim notes how easy it is to win their favor with basic flattery like "good question."
- 2:17:26Guest didn't watch the five-hour Pearl Harbor documentary that Tim and the co-host have seen.
- 2:17:49Tim expresses interest in having a conspiracy theorist author on the show to argue with them.
- 2:18:42Guest is probably only sharing 25% of what he knows, with classification restrictions on the rest.
- 2:19:07Information about Saudi and Israeli princes being killed was new to Tim.
- 2:19:58Guest seems like an earnest guy excited to be in Hollywood who'd probably like to sell a screenplay.
- 2:20:42Tim notes the counterintuitive claim that CIA divisions hated each other rather than cooperating on 9/11.
- 2:21:05Awkward transition from deep intelligence discussion to promoting his comedy tour dates.