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Saudi Arabia, Seymour Hersh, and the Bin Laden Raid

from Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou) · #136

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10 min

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Kiriakou explains why he trusts Seymour Hersh's reporting over official CIA lines, recounts two Saudi princes linked to Abu Zubaydah's address book dying mysteriously, and discusses a covert Saudi-Israeli radar incident suggesting hidden cooperation against Iran.

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  • 2:02:16U.S. government has been reluctant to be honest with Americans about Saudi Arabia's possible role in 9/11.
  • 2:03:03Seymour Hersh's guest explains the American people haven't been given facts they deserve about Saudi Arabia's formal or informal involvement.
  • 2:03:30When Abu Zubaydah was captured, his address book contained names and cell phone numbers of two Saudi princes, both of whom died mysteriously afterward—one in a car accident, one from thirst in the desert.
  • 2:04:59Tim asks about the conspiracy claim that John Brennan converted to Islam.
  • 2:05:22Seymour Hersh reported sources claiming U.S. troops or Iraqi officers sexually abused children on camera during torture operations, far worse than publicly known Abu Ghraib details.
  • 2:06:40Tim says if the CIA says one thing and Seymour Hersh says the opposite, he trusts Hersh.
  • 2:06:55Hersh published an article suggesting everything known about the Bin Laden raid is wrong, that Pakistan was holding him, and the courier story is false.
  • 2:07:30Every former senior CIA officer condemned Hersh's Bin Laden article, which made the guest believe Hersh had struck a nerve and was onto something.
  • 2:08:12Tim questions whether throwing Bin Laden's body at sea was the actual reason or convenient bullshit, since the government gave no proof of the raid.
  • 2:09:15Saudi Arabia's ground radar mysteriously shut off for two hours, allowing Israeli jets to cross the country to the UAE and return—likely a dry run to test speed to Iran.
  • 2:09:58Behind-the-scenes relationships exist between Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and likely Qatar, all aligned against Iran.
  • 2:10:38Tim's guest dismisses the pipeline argument for Middle East wars because fracking made U.S. oil independence viable.
  • 2:10:58Rare earth minerals used in everything from car bumpers to nuclear missiles are the real concern—the U.S. has almost none, and Afghanistan's abundance may have motivated military intervention.
  • 2:11:36Building and propping up an Afghan government could have been motivated partly by creating stability to allow mining of rare minerals.
Mentioned here

Saudi ArabiaSeymour HershIsraelAbu ZubaydahJohn BrennanAbu GhraibUnited Arab EmiratesJohn KiriyakuIranOsama bin LadenAfghanistanPakistanSyria

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