Interview · moment 13 of 18
Debating Ray's 'Observer' Personality and the Failed Movie
from No More Life In A Cage · #101
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5 minGuest
Tim and Ray argue about whether Ray is just an 'observer' who criticizes people's motives rather than a doer, which leads Ray to defend himself by bringing up his own unfinished feature film with non-actors and changing weather, and a college short called Truck Stop.
- 51:09Tim argues he's an observer because he picks apart what people do and identifies what's good and what isn't good.
- 51:43Sometimes what people do is just about manifesting something into the world, not necessarily pursuing a hidden angle.
- 52:23The guest suggests Tim struggles to understand people who do things without an immediately identifiable motive.
- 53:02Tim mentions he made a movie almost and describes it as a feature-length outdoor film with non-actors and regular people.
- 53:22The film had way too many characters, the weather kept changing during shooting, and many participants weren't trained actors.
- 54:06Tim explains the movie was about 75 percent done when winter arrived and they couldn't shoot the remaining outdoor fight scenes.
- 54:20Looking back, Tim cringes at the project and admits the script wasn't great, though the guest suggests he should have made ten more films.
- 54:41Tim mentions trying to get his hands on a 1990 NYU student film called Truck Stop that he appeared in.
- 55:00Tim's plan to retrieve the film involves publicly naming the director as a last resort so his fans will pressure the director.
- 55:12Tim jokes that his four fans are all inept and imagines them getting arrested trying to retrieve the movie for him.
- 55:27Tim shouts out Call George and specifies he prefers fake syrup over fresh Vermont syrup.