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Owen from Sean Cody and the Pat Tillman Fragging Theory
from Freedom Fingers · #88
Audio-only archive episode — no video to seek.
3 minTim tells the story of a gay porn actor named Owen who lost his legs in Iraq, which leads into a long tangent with Ray about Pat Tillman's death, the term "fragging," and the movie Jacob's Ladder and its "the ladder" drug experiments on soldiers.
- 1:38Owen from Sean Cody was a straight gay-for-pay performer who lost both legs in Iraq and ended up in a wheelchair.
- 2:02Pat Tillman's friendly fire death gets covered up, and the conversation shifts to the term 'fragging' and its origins.
- 2:16Fragging means someone shoots you on purpose—it comes from Vietnam when grunts would eliminate bad officers.
- 2:39West Point lieutenants cycling in as white collar assholes would put troops at risk trying to look good.
- 2:57Soldiers would stand back and throw a fragmentation grenade at officers on patrol because it happened so often there's a term for it.
- 3:07Jacob's Ladder premise is believable: the military drafted soft guys and gave them drugs to make them hyper-aggressive enough to fight.
- 3:40Tim Robbins and Tony Iello starred in Jacob's Ladder, where the military experimented on soldiers with a drug called the Ladder.
- 3:56Tim doesn't need documents to believe the military gave troops speed and coke—some things are just credible without proof.