Episode 88 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Freedom Fingers
Mar 20, 2018 · 59:33 · 19 segments, 116 moments indexed
- 1 min
Show opens with music and Tim Dillon introducing himself and Ray Kump.
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- 0:17Tim welcomes Ray Kump to the show
- 1 min
Tim urges listeners to subscribe to GaS Digital Network before prices rise, comparing waiting to a painful surprise, which segues into a riff about straight guys doing gay porn.
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- 0:40Subscribe to GaS Digital or the price is going up and you'll get screwed without lube in a few months.
- 1:04Tim compares the pain in porn to how it actually works, launching into a tangent about straight guys in gay porn.
- 1:23Discussion of poppers and what they do to the body during sex.
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- 3 min
Owen from Sean Cody and the Pat Tillman Fragging Theory
#Tim tells the story of a gay porn actor named Owen who lost his legs in Iraq, which leads into a long tangent with Ray about Pat Tillman's death, the term "fragging," and the movie Jacob's Ladder and its "the ladder" drug experiments on soldiers.
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- 1:38Owen from Sean Cody was a straight gay-for-pay performer who lost both legs in Iraq and ended up in a wheelchair.
- 2:02Pat Tillman's friendly fire death gets covered up, and the conversation shifts to the term 'fragging' and its origins.
- 2:16Fragging means someone shoots you on purpose—it comes from Vietnam when grunts would eliminate bad officers.
- 2:39West Point lieutenants cycling in as white collar assholes would put troops at risk trying to look good.
- 2:57Soldiers would stand back and throw a fragmentation grenade at officers on patrol because it happened so often there's a term for it.
- 3:07Jacob's Ladder premise is believable: the military drafted soft guys and gave them drugs to make them hyper-aggressive enough to fight.
- 3:40Tim Robbins and Tony Iello starred in Jacob's Ladder, where the military experimented on soldiers with a drug called the Ladder.
- 3:56Tim doesn't need documents to believe the military gave troops speed and coke—some things are just credible without proof.
- 1 min
Nixon Spitting and Prince Harry's Fake Combat
#A riff imagining Nixon spitting on a supporter at a campaign stop, then back to Tillman theories, then a bit about Prince Harry's staged-seeming military service.
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- 4:44Tim imagines Nixon spitting on someone at a campaign stop, creating a famous museum-worthy photograph that would have cost him the election.
- 5:18Prince Harry got fragged—shot by his own unit—because the troops didn't want him returning to the US to talk about an unpopular war.
- 2 min
Bit: Sending Ray Kump to Bomb the 9/11 Memorial
#A improvised sketch where a military officer sends the Prince Harry-style Ray Kump character on an absurd suicide mission at the 9/11 memorial, complete with fake orders to shout "Allahu Akbar."
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- 5:50Tim recalls Pat Tillman dying from friendly fire and the military covering it up.
- 6:02Theory that Tillman was kept from coming home because he'd become disillusioned about the war.
- 6:23Tim wonders why the military would put a valuable player like Tillman in actual combat.
- 6:33Prince Harry was given fake combat missions with actors in turbans, according to Tim.
- 6:55Tim and Ray Kump bit: military officers assigning Kump to bomb the 9/11 memorial.
- 7:19Officers brief Kump on his mission: plant a bag at the memorial and yell when it starts smoking.
- 7:36Kump instructed to yell "Allahu Akbar" to unify the country's response.
- 3 min
Austin Package Bombings and Podcast Legal Trouble
#Tim segues into the real Austin bombings targeting Black families and churches, debates whether to call the perpetrators terrorists, then pivots to explain why a previous episode was pulled from the network for legal reasons after he discussed a sponsored/legal project.
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- 7:52Tim discusses bombs going off in Austin, likely tied to white supremacists targeting black families and churches.
- 8:39News outlets calling the bombers terrorists now, but Tim criticizes them for initially releasing stories denying any terror link.
- 9:02Debate over whether school shooters should be classified as terrorists, with Tim arguing the bombings fit the terrorism profile.
- 9:30Last episode has been removed from iTunes and Gas Digital Network due to legal reasons stemming from paperwork Tim signed about a past acting role.
- 10:16Tim explains the paperwork contained ambiguous lines that could be interpreted in court as prohibiting him from discussing the matter on a podcast.
- 9 min
Online Censorship, Alex Jones, and David Hogg
#A long discussion with Ray about tech platform censorship, whether companies like Google/YouTube/Facebook should be held to journalistic standards, whether Alex Jones should be allowed to speculate about Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg, and the ethics of free speech versus defamation of private citizens.
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- 11:00Tim argues that certain powerful entities you don't fight back against because they have operations designed to squash you.
- 11:30Ray and Tim discuss online censorship by Facebook, Google, and YouTube as a major issue affecting demonetization and content removal.
- 12:44Tim defends a Scottish comedian prosecuted for making his dog do a Nazi salute, saying he's not representing a hate group.
- 13:43Ray argues that tech platforms dominating political discourse should be held to journalistic standards rather than just profit motives.
- 15:04Tim points out these companies deliberately killed competitors to become the only player, so they can't claim they passively ended up in this position.
- 15:38Tim asks Shannon to look up David Hogg's age before continuing a point about whether Alex Jones should be allowed to spread conspiracy theories about Parkland shooting survivors.
- 16:41Tim describes a Facebook friend who unfriended all the Jews and regularly messages him to discuss conspiracy theories and who he thinks are federal informants.
- 17:46The Facebook friend claims Adam Waffen is a white supremacist group infiltrated by Satanists, supposedly a German term for nuclear weapons.
- 18:37Tim says his default position is yes, Alex Jones should be allowed to float conspiracy theories, but acknowledges there's something attractive about angry men wanting to be heard.
- 19:28Tim argues that just because someone enters the public sphere doesn't automatically make them a public figure deserving of unlimited targeting, and suggests looking at slander law.
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- 4 min
Conspiracy Culture, Trump, and the Deep State
#Tim and Ray discuss how conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and Sandy Hook get lumped together, whether Alex Jones is a CIA shill, and whether Trump is being compared to historical strongmen and the entrenched "deep state."
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- 20:46Tim asks whether Alex Jones is a CIA plant meant to poison the well and discredit legitimate information.
- 21:33The net effect of Alex Jones and figures like him who claim to expose the deep state but accomplish nothing.
- 22:07Tim compares Trump to Hitler as an outsider who claims to oppose the establishment, then notes what both of them actually produced: a deeper state.
- 22:29Trump as a world leader who appears hopelessly corrupt from the start and would be the number one pick for someone destined to become a tyrant.
- 22:58Alan Dulles, the first CIA Director and architect of America's deep state, compared to Trump as a hypothetical dictator who lacked the competence to actually build one.
- 23:33Tim argues you need nonsense—not Alex Jones specifically, but something like him—even though he dislikes how that sounds.
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Why Society Needs Nonsense Like Alex Jones
#Continuing the free speech debate, Tim argues the public needs the ability to discern nonsense rather than have it censored, criticizes Alex Jones for shilling survival products and silver spray, and jokes about Denny's quality.
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- 23:49Public needs to be able to discern bullshit from truth on any level
- 24:14Tim explains what actually makes him mad about Alex Jones and his orbit
- 24:32Alex Jones and his crew are full of shit, peddling garbage mixed with product sales
- 24:48Jones talks about Hillary's reptile head while commercials shill colloidal silver and survival gear
- 25:16Denny's doesn't advertise on Alex Jones but is phenomenal for the money
- 25:27Tim tried chicken fingers for the first time
- 25:44Problem with the show: nothing to say because Tim gets threatened with lawsuits whenever he does something interesting
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Trying Chicken Fingers for the First Time (and a Dead Coworker's Tribute Video)
#Tim recounts trying chicken fingers for the first time as an adult, researching their history on Wikipedia, and the surreal experience of editing a tribute video for a deceased coworker whose defining trait was loving chicken fingers, plus his Mr. Met bit.
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- 26:20Tim read Wikipedia about chicken fingers after trying them for the first time, discovering they didn't become ubiquitous until the 1990s.
- 27:01His boss at work died, and Tim was asked to cut a tribute video that started as a get-well message.
- 27:25During the tribute video, 15 people mentioned that all the dead coworker ever ate was chicken fingers.
- 28:10The munchies guys made a five-minute segment showing how to make chicken fingers the way the deceased coworker liked them, with crispy outside, juicy inside, and honey mustard.
- 28:30The dead coworker was the only person who liked Tim's idea for a show with Mr. Met going to Black Lives Matter rallies to talk about race.
- 29:19Tim tried chicken fingers for the first time and also got disco fries, which he immediately dismisses as trash food compared to the chicken fingers.
- 29:50Chicken fingers, in Tim's newly formed opinion, are one of the juiciest and most delicious things he's ever eaten, and he regrets not trying them sooner.
- 30:25Adam counters that he's been eating chicken fingers his entire life in various preparations: with buffalo sauce, barbecue, Jack Daniel sauce, honey mustard, ranch, in wraps, sandwiches, BLTs, and on Cajun pastas.
- 30:44Tim insists he hasn't deprived himself of much and didn't understand what world Adam was living in, given his own extensive chicken finger consumption history.
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- 3 min
Shannon reads news about the neo-Nazi terrorist group Atomwaffen Division linked to killings in Florida, Virginia, and California, and Tim and Ray riff on the group's website, ideology, and media sympathetic coverage of white supremacists.
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- 31:35Atomwaffen Division is a German neo-Nazi terror group, supposedly Satanist.
- 31:51Tim notes they're against hierarchical structures of organized religion.
- 32:16The group was founded in 2013 with main operations in Florida and members across multiple states.
- 32:30Neo-Nazi group linked to five killings across Florida, Virginia, and California in recent weeks.
- 32:45Atomwaffen means atomic weapons in German; celebrates Hitler and Manson, promotes violence and race war rhetoric.
- 33:17Tim asks why German terrorists are operating in America instead of fixing their own country.
- 34:04Nazism is fundamentally about people wanting to be dominated, submissive to authoritarian father figures.
- 34:30Media sympathetically portrays these terrorists as misguided boys rather than calling them what they are: murderers.
- 34:44Tim argues the solution is direct action—bulldoze, shoot, and kill actual terrorists instead of soft coverage.
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- 4 min
Debate continues about how domestic terrorism should be handled compared to Islamic terrorism abroad, watching a news clip of an Austin police officer discussing the FedEx bombing package, and riffing on Richard Jewell comparisons.
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- 34:55Tim rejects sympathetic media profiles of domestic terrorists, arguing the press shouldn't explore their grievances.
- 35:43When extremists wave swastika flags and issue threats, they forfeit the right to nuanced analysis—treat them like ISIS.
- 36:27The FBI consistently sides with far-right groups, often with infiltrators whose loyalties remain unclear.
- 36:53Free speech exists in tension with preventing defamation campaigns that label school shooting survivors as crisis actors.
- 37:34People spreading conspiracy theories about mass shootings aren't sophisticated thinkers—nobody actually needs to orchestrate false flags to control the population.
- 38:28These militia members aren't freedom fighters; random Americans dropped into Yemen would be dead in seconds, yet these guys order ranch at buffets.
- 38:45Tim explains his preference for restaurant ranch over bottled ranch, noting subtle differences in sweetness and concentration.
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- 5 min
Ranch Dressing, Midwest Salads, and Seasonal Eating Habits
#A tangent about Midwest salad bars drenched in ranch, followed by Tim describing his seasonal eating patterns cycling through Italian, sushi, Moroccan, and halal food.
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- 39:04Midwest salads are iceberg lettuce, onion, tomato, cheddar, croutons, bacon bits, and ranch by default.
- 39:36Tim describes his seasonal eating habits: heavy Italian food in winter, then shifting to fish, sushi, and adventurous cuisines like Moroccan and halal in warmer months.
- 40:15Nothing beats creamy pasta or tomato sauce when it's cold and frigid outside.
- 40:51Austin bombings — Tim discusses the suspicious package found at a FedEx location.
- 42:19Tim argues if the bombing is connected to white supremacist or neo-Nazi groups, law enforcement should aggressively pursue them, comparing domestic terrorism doctrine to what the U.S. applies overseas.
- 43:34If America applied its counterterrorism approach from Afghanistan and Iraq domestically, people would accept it, so why claim we still have freedom to object.
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- 2 min
Tim reads a Vodafone sponsorship mention tied to Formula 1 racing, then pitches an absurd sketch idea about two gay husbands with fat kids trying to buy a compact car.
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- 43:54Tim is performing at the Vodafone Festival in Ireland this summer.
- 44:06Debate over whether Tim could physically fit inside a McLaren street car.
- 44:36Sketch idea: two gay husbands with three fat kids trying to buy a compact car, filming themselves struggling to fit the children in and out.
- 45:02Question about which character would be the top in the sketch.
- 45:16Tim doubts any brand would sponsor the sketch, saying no one would touch it.
- 45:29Retail is dying in America and stores are in big trouble, with Amazon taking over.
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- 3 min
The Death of Retail and Working at a Camera Store
#Tim laments the death of retail stores like Best Buy, recalls his old job giving expert advice at a small camera store, and debates the merits of keeping mega-retailers alive versus mom and pop shops.
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- 45:48Tim questions the purpose of going to Best Buy staffed by clueless people in khakis.
- 46:12He used to work at a small camera store where he gave expert technical advice on expensive purchases.
- 46:47Tim argues that big-box stores like Best Buy and Target killed the mom-and-pop camera shops by hiring unhelpful employees.
- 47:11Supporting Best Buy and Target means keeping alive mega retailers that treat employees poorly while specialty expertise vanishes.
- 47:22Costco's pizza gets brought up as actually good, unlike the mediocre chain-store alternative.
- 47:45Tim imagines a Costco commercial: a man on a couch ignoring his wife's gestures, unwilling to remove his headphones to eat pizza, saying it's "good enough."
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Bagel Bites Pizza Sketch and Eating Brains with Andrew Zimmern
#A riffed fake commercial for Bagel Bites pizza, followed by a story about eating brains at Ali's Kabob Cafe on Steinway Street and comparing it to Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods.
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- 48:32Tim went to Queens to eat brain and tried it as an adventurous eater.
- 48:50Andrew Zimmern from Bizarre Foods was on the show to cook brains.
- 49:05Zimmern recommended Ali's Kabob Cafe on Steinway Street for brain dishes.
- 49:25Zimmern claimed the brain tasted like thousands of years of culinary experience.
- 49:41Tim hated the brain despite working in a morgue and not being squeamish.
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Chicken Finger Sauce Tiers and Missing John Kiriakou
#Tim ranks advanced chicken finger preparations like Friendly's honey barbecue melt, compares the food obsession to a gay sexual awakening bit, then explains why guest John Kiriakou couldn't come on to discuss the new CIA nominee Gina Haspel.
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- 50:28Chicken fingers ranked by sauce tier, from basic fried to Friendly's honey barbecue super melt.
- 51:24Tim explains the appeal of a plain chicken finger versus sauced versions, and discusses buffalo fingers with blue cheese dip.
- 51:41Tim compares discovering good chicken fingers to a sexual awakening, then makes an analogy about how gay people celebrate coming out.
- 52:22Chicken fingers are reliable road food, but frozen versions and hipster versions often disappoint compared to expectations.
- 52:49John Kiriakou cancelled appearing to discuss the new CIA nominee because he has to help his kids with homework.
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Panko Breading and the Ideal Mozzarella Stick Size
#A detailed rant about disliking panko and corn flake breading, the correct size for a mozzarella stick, and how good chicken fingers make you forget about torture and war.
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- 53:38Tim hates Panko breading for its granular, gravelly texture.
- 54:02Tim wants old-school breaded mozzarella sticks, not big planks or Panko versions.
- 54:12Long Island diner mozzarella sticks are his preferred style over flat versions from chains like TGI Friday's.
- 54:33Discovering indulgent comfort foods like good chicken fingers distracts people from geopolitical horrors and CIA torture programs.
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- 5 min
Tim and Ray plug upcoming shows including Artichoke Comedy, Willow Creek Winery, and Magooby's Joke House in Maryland, remind listeners to subscribe and rate the show, and sign off.
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- 55:03Raymond has a new website and projects in the works, including a pilot.
- 55:14Tim and Raymond are performing at Artichoke Comedy on Thursday and at a winery show in Jersey on Saturday.
- 55:44Tim has to miss a tribute to his dead boss to do the winery show.
- 55:58Tim argues that Raymond is always negative and he's always positive, which is why they work together.
- 56:25Willow Creek Winery is where Tim workshops and gets new material, not a big promotional show.
- 57:20Tim plans to teach people about wine foundations, tannins, and grape-squashing at Willow Creek.
- 58:00Tim is headlining Magooby's Comedy Club in suburban Maryland on the 29th, 30th, and 31st.
- 58:17Tim won't be spending Easter with his family; instead he's having dinner at Gotham Bar and Grill, where they invented tuna tartare.
- 58:41All tour dates are available at TimDillComedy.com, and Tim asks listeners to subscribe to the network for seven dollars a month.
- 59:10Tim warns that any episode they release has a chance of coming down, so listeners should save it if they love it.
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