Episode 82 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
What Does Your Brother Do In The Navy
Feb 6, 2018 · 1:10:58 · 20 segments, 148 moments indexed
- 1 min
Show opening credits announced.
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- 0:06Show intro with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump
- 3 min
Trump's PBS Interview and the 'Sloppiest False Flag' Theory
#Tim and Ray riff on Trump telling PBS unity will require a 'major event,' joke about a fake terror attack at Mall of America, and spiral into how leaders and elites have historically used crises (Reagan, Rahm Emanuel, the Johnstown Flood caused by Carnegie's carriage road) to grease the wheels of government.
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- 0:29Trump tells PBS it will be hard to unify the country without a major event.
- 0:44The scenario: guys running through the Mall of America in burkas, shooting randomly, not hitting anybody.
- 1:00Trump blames it on North Korea and demands immediate action for unification.
- 1:17This theme of needing crisis for unification has been consistent throughout history.
- 1:32Rahm Emanuel's famous line: never let a good crisis go to waste.
- 1:51Tim brings up the Johnstown flood, where a wealthy man allegedly weakened a dam to benefit his business interests.
- 2:14Leaders genuinely seem to need tragedy to get things done.
- 2:38Libertarians argue gridlock in Congress is good because government can't waste money, but then leaders just blow something up anyway.
- 3:12Even when government appears paralyzed, there's still colossal waste and pork that costs trillions regardless.
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- 2 min
9/11 vs. Boston Bombing: Which Tragedies 'Work'
#They debate whether a 9/11-scale tragedy would galvanize the country the same way today, discuss the iconic 'This is War' photo, and compare how 9/11 led to two wars and endless War on Terror expansion while the Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook produced comparatively little political mobilization.
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- 3:40Tim describes the visceral impact of 9/11 imagery—people jumping from buildings, destroyed monuments—that made the event feel different from other tragedies.
- 3:57Someone wrote 'This is war' on a dusty car after 9/11, presumably Giuliani, which Tim finds absurd given the chaos people were running from.
- 4:44The Boston bombing had fishy elements, but 9/11 was the only attack that actually got things done—two wars and a color-coded threat system.
- 5:23Tim notes that 9/11 led to starting ISIS and ongoing interventions in Yemen and Somalia, calling it 'a lot of bang for your buck.'
- 5:50Death and atrocity aside, 9/11 delivered massive geopolitical results compared to other domestic attacks.
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- 3 min
Government Conspiracies, MKUltra, and Boston Bombing Skepticism
#Riffing on whether elements of the government would stage or allow atrocities, referencing MKUltra and Tuskegee, then turning to skepticism about the FBI's Boston Bombing investigation and a supposed second person of interest.
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- 6:00Tim compares an all-you-can-eat buffet to the military-industrial complex: pay one price, all-inclusive.
- 6:25Tim stipulates the government has done horrific things: MKUltra, Tuskegee—documented history. The question is whether they developed a conscience in the last twenty years.
- 6:54Imagining government torturers suddenly growing a conscience while dropping drone strikes and torturing innocent Arab men overseas.
- 7:05The Boston bombing killed a few people and caused some maiming—compare that to what a conspiracy would theoretically accomplish for the government.
- 7:29The FBI announced a second person of interest in the Boston bombing, but Tim notes they've had enough time to be clearer about it.
- 7:51When reading news about investigations, the actual language matters: they hinted at possible other persons of interest, not definite ones.
- 8:07Investigations operate under constraints where nothing can be confirmed until full autopsies with toxicology reports come back, which takes time.
- 2 min
SWAT Teams, the Vegas Shooting Response, and the Nunes Memo Fight
#They discuss why law enforcement isn't built to stop mass shooters quickly, joke about SWAT teams shooting dogs, then pivot into the partisan fight over releasing the Nunes FBI memo.
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- 8:48Tim argues you can easily shoot 60 people firing at that frequency in a country with easy firearm access and inadequate mental health care.
- 9:18The assumption that SWAT teams are always ready to respond to snipers is a movie fantasy, not reality.
- 9:40SWAT teams around the country shoot a lot of dogs for unclear reasons.
- 10:05People ask why Vegas PD won't release footage, but they never release anything anyway.
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- 3 min
The Mueller Investigation and Paul Ryan's Memo Comments
#Speculation about whether Mueller actually has damning evidence on Trump, Paul Ryan's cryptic comments trying to separate the memo from the Russia probe, and whether Mueller is trying to flip witnesses.
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- 10:24Democrats oppose releasing the memo because they fear it will expose them.
- 10:49Tim on the immaturity of the country arguing over which version of the memo people are allowed to see.
- 11:10Republicans apparently believe the memo will reveal Obama and Hillary conspiring with bin Laden against Trump.
- 11:25Paul Ryan warned against lumping the memo in with the Mueller investigation, suggesting he knows something.
- 11:53Tim's skepticism about Mueller having real evidence, given how long the investigation has dragged on.
- 12:18Someone sent him a message at 3:45 a.m. asking him and Ray to investigate nursing home abuse.
- 12:57Mueller likely already knows who he's going after, similar to how The Wire showed cops knowing guilt upfront.
- 13:12Mueller's strategy probably involves flipping people to get a smoking gun.
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- 5 min
FBI Civil War, Clinton Corruption, and Trump's Unprecedented Candor
#Long rant on whether the FBI/CIA viewed Trump as illegitimate from day one, comparisons to Clinton Foundation corruption, and Trump's strange honesty moments like the 'we do a lot of killing too' Putin response, plus JFK files declassification being a nothingburger.
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- 13:53Tim clarifies this isn't a defense of Trump or exoneration of his administration, but says nothing would shock him given the people they've had on the show.
- 14:38The narrative that the FBI New York office were Trump loyalists who reopened the Clinton case contradicts the idea they were in his corner.
- 15:06Tim suggests intelligence agencies viewed Trump as illegitimate from day one, possibly because they couldn't control him the way they do other presidents.
- 15:43The Clintons are dirty, the Clinton Foundation is a slush fund, and Hillary took money from foreign leaders buying access to the Secretary of State.
- 16:23Trump possesses a competence in getting away with things that sets him apart from the Clintons, who play ball with the system.
- 16:41No president has called out intelligence organizations the way Trump has, except maybe Kennedy with his secrecy speech or Eisenhower on the military-industrial complex.
- 17:00When asked about Putin and killings in Russia, Trump said "we do a lot of killing too"—one of the few non-cringe things he's said.
- 17:25Trump declassified Kennedy documents that nobody wanted, which turned out to be nothing burgers because they're incredibly complex.
- 17:45The FBI has essentially functioned like the Stasi, deciding outcomes and killing people, with a possible civil war playing out within the organization.
- 18:02Tim mentions reading an article about Hezbollah and cocaine trafficking involving the FBI.
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Cocaine Trafficking, Hezbollah, and Institutionalized Criminality
#Tim discusses an article about Hezbollah and cocaine trafficking, his own documentary work on the secret cocaine route, Noreen Gosh's line about human trafficking needing government cooperation, and the idea that drug money, the FBI, and the CIA are unchanging constants in geopolitics.
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- 18:10Tim on how little we understand about how the world actually works
- 18:23Even thinkers like Jordan Peterson ignore the institutionalized criminality infected through every system
- 19:08Every year we learn about new powerful people involved in cocaine trafficking
- 19:21The narco economy requires Western demand; powerful governments know where the cocaine is but don't stop it
- 19:58Documentary reporters visit cocaine plants with faces blurred, but the traffickers will get killed anyway
- 20:34Noreen Gosh's point: human trafficking as a $2 billion industry doesn't flourish without government cooperation
- 20:59Any large criminal industry—drugs, sex trafficking—requires some level of government complicity
- 21:31Peeling back media narratives reveals constants: the FBI, CIA, drug money are not variables but permanent fixtures
- 22:02Tim identifies the true unchanging constants as Pentagon funding, drug trafficking, and child exploitation
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War Economy and the 'Big Given' in Political Arguments
#Tim describes arguing with someone who dismissed war economy criticism by saying America isn't Sweden, and uses it to illustrate how people smuggle huge assumptions into arguments about foreign policy.
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- 22:15Tim describes arguments where people accept a "big given" — unstated premises they won't question.
- 22:39Everyone agrees the U.S. drops bombs on innocent people worldwide, but there's a conversational way of moving past that admission.
- 23:00Tim's absurdist take: if we're destabilizing countries and creating refugees, at least we shouldn't misgender them in the process.
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- 4 min
Establishment Liberals, Refugees, and Blowback from Endless War
#Riff on how establishment liberals perform outrage over gender issues while supporting foreign wars, how neoliberalism and Obamacare reflect corporate capture, and how refugee resettlement is blowback from two decades of U.S. intervention in Syria, Yemen, Darfur and Africa.
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- 23:26Establishment liberals will respectably do a little genocide, nicely.
- 23:41Supposedly revolutionary people are obsessed with Beyoncé and the Real Housewives.
- 24:32Neoliberalism's ideology of unending war and economic systems like Obamacare trap people in corporate interests.
- 25:13The foreign policy obsession with projecting power on a global chessboard doesn't resonate with regular people struggling to afford basic needs.
- 25:40As time passes from 9/11, people are beginning to understand blowback from endless wars.
- 26:05France, Britain, and the U.S. have engaged in extensive military intervention across the Middle East and Africa.
- 26:19The U.S. finances Saudi Arabia's bombing campaign in Yemen while running 90 military operations a day across Africa.
- 26:38Tim questions how anyone decides who qualifies as a terrorist when conducting 90 operations daily.
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How the U.S. Decides Who's a Terrorist
#Dark joke about the arbitrary criteria for labeling someone a terrorist overseas, and frustration that people only start caring about foreign policy consequences once refugees show up in their own neighborhoods.
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- 26:54Tim mocks the vague questionnaire used to determine if someone is a terrorist—asking a tribal leader what he thinks about the US and Jewish people, then declaring him a terrorist based on the answers.
- 27:23Tim expresses annoyance that people suddenly care about refugee kids but weren't politically engaged enough to hold Bush or Obama accountable for their foreign policies.
- 27:57He criticizes Americans who ignored decades of US military action abroad but get angry when Black kids from Sudan move into their neighborhood.
- 28:24The republic was supposed to be founded on resisting government overreach, not taking the easy way out—yet society defaults to passivity instead of cerebral resistance.
- 5 min
Point Nemo and the Great Southern Ocean
#Tim goes down a YouTube rabbit hole about Point Nemo, the most remote point in the ocean, its status as a satellite graveyard, and the enormous swells of the Great Southern Ocean, while Ray teases him about seeming suicidal.
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- 28:46Tim received a mysterious text about an ocean no one goes to.
- 29:17Point Nemo is the furthest point from land on Earth—closer to people in the space station than to any human on the surface.
- 29:51The Great Southern Ocean has buoys there and is the only ocean completely unobstructed by land around the entire 360 degrees of the planet.
- 30:23Waves in the Great Southern Ocean never break because there's no land to obstruct them, so the swells just keep going.
- 31:17Point Nemo is a graveyard for satellites that re-enter orbit and drop into the area where nobody's around.
- 31:37The only wildlife at Point Nemo is penguins and occasional glaciers; there's not much life there at all.
- 31:55The Great Southern Ocean produces 50 to 60 foot swells, with some recordings of 120 foot waves.
- 32:50Yacht racers frequently die attempting to traverse these waters through Point Nemo in global races.
- 33:05Tim compares the calling of sailing alone on a boat for 120 days to the weirdness of stand-up comedy.
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- 6 min
The Corinthian Yacht Club, Sailing, and Travel Regrets
#Talk of an old-money Long Island yacht club, admiration for old-school sailors who traveled without engines, and Tim admitting he regrets not traveling more when he was young and chasing film projects in Deer Park.
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- 33:18The Corinthian Yacht Club in Santa Rina is where old money lives—Billy Joel and Rupert Murdoch types on Long Island.
- 34:04There is something genuinely cool about sailing, especially for someone like his friend Bud who sailed all over to places like Bimini without needing engines.
- 34:37Tim regrets not traveling when he was younger because he was focused on trying to get movies made.
- 34:48He was shooting features in Deer Park, testing cameras to decide whether to purchase them.
- 35:11Part of him thinks not traveling saved him from ending up in a Taiwanese prison with coke he'd bought as an idiot.
- 35:24When you're sober and older, traveling just isn't as fun as it was when you were young, high, and twenty.
- 35:58If you're appreciating architecture, you're not having fun—you're trying to get laid and meet people.
- 36:21Tim's version of being open at twenty: gender non-binary, willing to do anything with anyone, even some blue-haired heroin addict in Ireland.
- 37:04He knows Long Island goons who've never set foot on another landmass outside the United States, which is instructive—people should travel and absorb culture while young and free from jobs or relationships.
- 38:02People who claim culture because they went to Italy once don't know shit; they just remember the pasta.
- 38:37You can learn about the world without traveling, but Tim travels to shitholes constantly and finds the adventure worthwhile.
- 38:50The idea that at one point in his life he could have been more adventurous.
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- 8 min
The Great Travel Debate: Backpacking Europe vs. Staying Home
#A long back-and-forth argument between Tim and Ray about whether young people should travel and 'get fucked' abroad versus Tim's skepticism of clueless backpacking kids, hitting on white privilege, the ISIS-fighter kid, and Tim's own regrets about never exploring.
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- 39:14Tim on clueless travelers: there's nothing worse than a cunty kid who thinks they know shit because they travel the world.
- 40:37Tim describes David, a finance guy who travels constantly and now wants to move to Tokyo because he's bored with America.
- 41:12Why learn about the Second Punic War when you could just go to Spain and have a nice meal and walk on the beach?
- 42:05Tim admits he's all for traveling but is too busy with work now to do serious months-long trips.
- 42:43Tim gets angry at people who travel and flaunt their experiences.
- 43:27Young charismatic guys can go to Italy, bring Hershey bars, use their accent to seduce women—that's the appeal of youth travel.
- 43:53Tim argues that in your thirties, you've learned enough about the world to appreciate it without acting reckless.
- 44:23In your twenties you have freedom to travel; in your thirties you're either very successful or not successful at all.
- 45:07Being young with energy and openness to new experiences is when you should travel, go have weird moments with Europeans.
- 45:40Tim describes going upstate with friends to a cousin's house, then to the woods with torches, machetes, drinking, chopping wood.
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- 4 min
Chatroom Check-in and the British Fan at the Stand
#Tim and Ray check the live chatroom for international listeners, and Tim tells a story about meeting British fans at the Stand comedy club who praised Ray's economic knowledge.
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- 47:06Tim regrets not traveling when young and having money to do it.
- 47:44Ray's argument that young travelers don't actually learn anything real.
- 48:28Tim's actual advice: being young, hot, on drugs in a foreign country is the point.
- 49:00Argentina travel recommendation with crude observations about local men.
- 49:34British fan at the Stand comedy club approaches Tim to praise the show and recommend Peep Show.
- 50:04The British fan's friend is surprisingly knowledgeable about 17th century economic systems.
- 50:37Tim's impressed by meeting a smart pub regular type who turned out to be brilliant.
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Threats, Carl George from Vermont, and the Dog Incident
#Comedic bit reading out chatroom messages, including a joking exchange with a listener named Carl George about booking a Vermont show that escalates into a joke about threatening someone's dog.
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- 50:55Tim tells chat viewers to get their green cards ready to photograph and upload them.
- 51:51Carl George from Vermont calls in to request Tim headline at the Vermont comedy club.
- 52:02Tim tells Carl George to pressure the comedy club, but warns him not to grab anyone by the throat or use homemade explosives.
- 52:32Carl George jokes it would be terrible if things happened, comparing the situation to Ruby Ridge and Elohim City.
- 52:58Discussion of what Carl George's brother actually does in the Navy and whether submarines still exist.
- 53:17Carl George confirms Tim is very beloved at the Vermont venue but they still won't book him.
- 53:30Tim answers that he has not traveled to any country outside the United States.
- 5 min
Captain Kirk and the Cat-in-the-Blender Legend
#Tim tells a long Long Island childhood drug story about a man called Captain Kirk who supplied weed to teenagers, rumored to have put a cat in a blender/microwave, leading into memories of burnt-out addicts and impoverished households from his youth.
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- 53:43Tim was supposed to go to Cuba as a guest of Castro to prove how the American system didn't work.
- 54:36Captain Kirk was a local character who lived in assisted living and would bring weed to teenagers in town.
- 55:12Everyone pretended Captain Kirk was actually the actor, and he'd talk about getting people to "blast off" on acid and shrooms.
- 55:47The legend was that Captain Kirk put a cat in a blender, and also allegedly in a microwave.
- 56:21Tim debates whether a blender would actually kill a cat depending on the blade sharpness.
- 56:35Tim tracks down people he did drugs with in 1999 on social media and notes they're still doing drugs hard into middle age.
- 56:59One kid's mother in her 50s or 60s would smoke weed and drink while working at a grocery store.
- 57:17Description of the living conditions at that kid's house: dirty, ashtrays everywhere, burn holes in carpet, stacked dishes.
- 57:41The mother would come home exhausted from the grocery store, get high and drunk, and spend the night reading magazines and watching TV in a trashed bedroom.
- 58:07Tim acknowledges that these real-life stories from his past are more interesting than traveling to famous landmarks.
- 58:29Tim reflects on how fortunate he and his guest have been to have rich, textured lives with great stories they can't tell publicly.
- 6 min
Drug Raids, the Mayor's Son's Drug House, and Ray Wins the Travel Debate
#Tim recounts being present during a childhood drug raid tied to a house owned by the mayor's son, reminisces about doing cocaine as a teenager with friends like Hector and Sonya, and ultimately concedes that Ray was right about not needing to travel to have a rich life.
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- 58:44Tim recalls being 14 years old during a drug raid with cops using battering rams.
- 59:37Special ops cops entered the house with guns pointed while they were inside.
- 59:58The drug house was a major operation on Long Island where cocaine was being distributed through bars and clubs.
- 1:00:38The mayor's son owned the house where all this drug activity was happening.
- 1:00:59After raids, some people went to jail for short stretches but mostly got caught with minor amounts.
- 1:01:50Tim contrasts the thrill of that drug world to the mundane experience of backpacking through Europe.
- 1:02:09Smoking brandy-soaked owls with Hector and Sonia at 13 years old was genuinely fun.
- 1:02:43Tim acknowledges he did travel young—to places like Ozone Park and the Bronx—but in a different way than backpacking.
- 1:03:27The real memory: doing cocaine on summer nights in cars while parents drove by, everybody laughing at the innocent deception.
- 1:03:51Ray wins the travel debate—he's right that people have the experiences they're meant to have and shouldn't force anything.
- 4 min
Tim runs through upcoming tour dates (Mohegan Sun, Providence, Zanies Chicago, Magooby's, Clusterfest, Moontower), his Netflix special taping, GaS Digital subscription pitch, and other side projects including a Vice Sports conspiracy show about a cross-dressing former basketball player.
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- 1:04:28Tim has a Netflix special taping on February 8, though he corrects people calling it a special instead of a show.
- 1:04:45Comedy Central special coming in the summer with tour dates across multiple cities including Mohegan Sun, Providence, Chicago, and Baltimore.
- 1:05:17Tim will be appearing at Clusterfest in San Francisco and Moon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin, which is run by Bill Hicks' ex-wife.
- 1:05:32Contact information and podcast promotion: timdillon.com, social media handles, iTunes ratings, and GAS Digital subscription for seven dollars a month.
- 1:06:08Upcoming comedy shows include Tuesday the 6th at The Shanty in Brooklyn and Wednesday the 7th at Divine Bar for comedians.
- 1:06:46Sports conspiracy show on Vice Sports Facebook about a college basketball player who became a cross-dressing prostitute.
- 1:07:53Tim jokes about plugging a future website and tells people to visit NSA.gov if they have inquiries.
- 1:08:15Looking for venues interested in hosting a live podcast, with Boston possibly being the first location.
- 1:08:41GAS Digital Studios mailing address provided for fan submissions at 151 First Avenue in New York.
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- 2 min
Shannon announces the move to a new studio in March and the promo code for GaS Digital, followed by Tim and Ray describing the outrageous 'Oral Olympics' and 'Hoedown Showdown' content on the SDR network before signing off.
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- 1:08:59Promo code for Gas Digital Network is 'hell' for three weeks and 15% off subscription.
- 1:09:40Ralph is keeping the current studio in his house and can use it as a personal video studio whenever he wants.
- 1:09:56SDR Network runs crazy shows with explicit content like sex acts and bleached assholes unblurred.
- 1:10:16The Oral Olympics and Hoedown Showdown episodes featured women competing in explicit sexual contests, described as one of Tim's grossest experiences.
- 1:10:39Tim disinfects everything after the SDR content discussion.
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