Episode 73 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Late For ElsaGate
Dec 4, 2017 · 1:05:14 · 24 segments, 159 moments indexed
- 1 min
Opening music and introduction of the show.
2moments
- 0:04Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell opens with Tim Dillon and Ray Kump
- 0:30Tim welcomes everyone to the show
- 3 min
Revisiting Lisa's Lounge and Mortgage Scams
#Tim and Ray recall a famous old episode about a Long Island dive bar called Lisa's Lounge and Tim's past selling mortgages, including a bit about "first payment default" scams in the mortgage business.
7moments
- 0:38Tim recalls listening to one of their most famous episodes, "Life in the Blood Box," about Lisa's lounge.
- 0:57He bought a house in Baldwin, New York when he was around 20-25 and it was foreclosed on after he stopped making payments.
- 1:17Tim explains the mortgage industry concept of "first payment default," where banks loan hundreds of thousands and borrowers never make the first payment.
- 2:03Realtors tell people their monthly payment will be $1,800 but don't always disclose the full details upfront.
- 2:28Tim's personal rule was to ensure clients made at least three payments to avoid investigation, unlike straight scammers.
- 2:55People would pitch refinance deals offering cash-outs on top, with the scam being to just make that first payment before bailing.
- 3:30Tim plugs the archive of past episodes listeners should go back and hear.
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- 2 min
Returning to Lisa's Lounge with a Friend
#Tim describes driving out to Long Island with a friend to show him Lisa's Lounge, finding it locked at 10am, and speculating about a Dog the Bounty Hunter lookalike guarding the door during a daytime cocaine party.
5moments
- 3:37Tim visited Lisa's Lounge today with a friend who borrowed him his car to drive around Long Island picking up tax papers.
- 4:04The friend had never seen Lisa's Lounge before, so they looked in the window first.
- 4:26What gets someone to go to a bar at 10 a.m. is hearing 'You're a piece of shit' from their wife.
- 4:55While looking in the window, Tim saw a guy who looked exactly like Dog the Bounty Hunter and asked if it actually was him.
- 5:16Tim figures everybody inside Lisa's was having a Tuesday afternoon cocaine party.
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- 2 min
Getting Let Into the Gin Mill
#Tim details finally getting into the bar, the bartender's hostile greeting, and reflects on how dive bar regulars like that never seem to die while good people do.
5moments
- 5:38Tim describes a drunk opening the door at a gin mill and nearly kicking him out.
- 5:54Distinction between dive bars and gin mills: a gin mill is just a room where people get fucked up.
- 6:28Tim lies and says he bought a house in the neighborhood to get in.
- 6:53Tim notes the old bartender isn't alive anymore, but the people he used to know still are.
- 7:08People Tim used to hang out with are living into their 80s, abusing the system and sucking it dry.
- 2 min
Tim pitches the $6/month subscription for the network and archive access, then riffs with Ray about whether Ray has rosacea and his exploding facial blood vessels.
6moments
- 7:16Tim pitches the subscription service at six dollars a month, which includes the entire network archive and promo code 'hell'.
- 7:30The show described as a progressive decline, a roller coaster into the depths of hell that is America.
- 8:08Standard definition is free on gasdigitalnetwork.com; high definition available to subscribers to see every detail, including spit and glasses.
- 8:29Tim jokes about watching his rosacea in high definition and references it as a potential album title.
- 8:40Tim explains his rosacea: his doctor told him the blood vessels in his face are exploding and very close to his skin.
- 9:00No dermatologist has confirmed the condition, and Tim notes there's nothing that can be done because the problem is inside his face.
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- 2 min
Continuing the pitch, Tim talks about video archives, admits the recent episodes may not be as good as older ones, and jokes with Ray about the live chat being full of horny young professionals.
7moments
- 9:15Tim explains the subscription tier: high-definition video requires subscribing, and video archives go back over a year.
- 9:37He argues the subscription is worth it because most of the good material is in the past.
- 9:52Tim recalls a friend telling him that everyone should accept their best work is behind them, and confirms he feels that way about the show.
- 10:08Subscribers get access to the live chat where they can make friends.
- 10:18Tim guesses the live chat is full of young professionals and attempts to recruit women into the audience.
- 10:41He advises against sending unsolicited photographs and recommends asking permission first, while maintaining there are "good odds" if they act like a gentleman.
- 11:05Ad-free podcasts included with subscription, plus early access to episodes five days before public release.
- 2 min
Introducing Elsagate
#Tim explains the Elsagate phenomenon of disturbing YouTube videos sexualizing children's characters, riffing on Reddit comments calling him fat and retarded along the way.
7moments
- 11:37Elsagate: people online made videos of Elsa fucking people and doing heroin.
- 11:56Tim thinks they're programming kids with this shit to see what Elsa's involved in.
- 12:15You can't blame Long Island's heroin epidemic on Elsa—they're trying to fuck the kids, not give them horses.
- 12:28Tim's point: you don't need to go on YouTube and make kids' stuff sexualized.
- 12:55Sometimes you can say things eloquently and sometimes you can't—that was one of the times.
- 13:17Subreddit users call him fat, loud, annoying, gay, and retarded; Tim contests some of this.
- 13:35Someone wrote on Instagram that Tim's very smart, which Tim says ain't it either.
- 3 min
Michael Jackson, Neverland, and Modern Pedophiles
#Tim contrasts old-school celebrity predators like Michael Jackson with how easy it apparently is for pedophiles today, riffing on Corey Feldman and Haim, then pivots back toward Elsagate and cartoon sexualization.
9moments
- 13:48Tim drove through Muntintown with his buddy and looked at beautiful homes in Brookville on Long Island.
- 14:02He reviewed his old mortgage papers from the house he bought in late 2006 or early 2007, right before the mortgage meltdown.
- 14:34Tim's house will never return to its peak value from before the financial crisis.
- 14:46Michael Jackson used Neverland and roller coasters to lure children solely for sexual abuse.
- 15:09Tim notes that modern predators need far less elaborate schemes to abuse children in America than Jackson required.
- 15:23Jackson targeted celebrity children like Macaulay Culkin, not regular kids from Boys Town.
- 15:36Corey Feldman and Corey Haim would have required minimal effort or attractions to be victimized compared to Jackson's elaborate Neverland setup.
- 15:52Tim tells people to stop messaging him at three in the morning about Elsa Gate conspiracy theories.
- 16:03People stick to animating cartoon characters rather than real people like Rory Gilmore for those weird videos to avoid legal consequences.
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- 2 min
Niece Watching an Elsagate Video
#Tim recounts catching his three-year-old niece watching a disturbing 'Toy Freaks' style video with a girl named Victoria crying and screaming, and they debate what the videos actually show.
6moments
- 16:20Tim watched Elsagate videos and describes one featuring Cinderella in a graphic scenario.
- 16:40His niece got caught watching Elsagate content at age three while he was visiting Italy.
- 17:04He discovered she was watching a weird video with a girl named Victoria screaming in pigtails and realized afterward it was Elsagate.
- 17:32Tim watched over his niece's shoulder and was baffled by what kids are apparently consuming now.
- 17:57The video was likely from Toy Freaks, a YouTube channel with a 10-year-old girl named Victoria screaming and crying like a baby.
- 18:18Tim considers whether sick people are actually getting off on this content as another angle of the problem.
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- 3 min
Elsagate as Coded Communication Theory
#Tim and Ray joke about pedophiles potentially using YouTube comments as an encrypted communication network, comparing it to The Wire, while trying to find and describe more Elsagate videos on screen.
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- 18:22Tim claims pedophiles use Elsagate videos as a subversive communications network, possibly through comments.
- 18:53The theory: criminals could hide Morse code in comment sections to communicate without detection.
- 19:35Self-description: they operate like PT Barnum hucksters, setting up circus tents in dust bowl towns to parade freaks for dollars.
- 20:14Tim doubles down on Elsagate theory: criminals communicate through YouTube videos and comments saying things like "let's go fuck this kid."
- 20:44Comparison to The Wire's cat-and-mouse game: criminals evolve their methods over time, from beepers to pictures of clocks.
- 20:57Pedophiles have existed since ancient Greece and constantly innovate their methods because they're not stupid, just criminal.
- 21:19Tim watched actual Elsagate videos and found them appropriate for children, not creepy.
- 21:42Tim's response to the funeral interaction: "Go fuck yourself."
- 4 min
Watching the Toy Freaks Videos Live
#The group watches actual Toy Freaks videos on screen, describing kids gagging on ice cream cones and a bald man participating, and identifies the channel and its father figure.
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- 21:52Tim describes creators showing children inappropriate content to influence or gratify themselves.
- 22:07Tim compares himself to an FBI profiler analyzing someone's character based on Christmas light-hanging behavior.
- 22:22Hypothetical scenario: a guy who seems normal but goes home and makes disturbing videos with children's characters.
- 22:37Tim criticizes Daniel Tiger as a PBS/Netflix show with animation quality that looks like Elsagate content.
- 23:01Tim tells an anecdote about trying to talk to a five-year-old at a friend's house and making up a story about Daniel Tiger cooking candy cane meatloaf.
- 23:42Tim argues that predators show children pornography first to hook them into cycles of manipulation and lies.
- 24:03Observation about how modern predators can't use traditional methods anymore and have to "get hip" with digital approaches.
- 24:28Tim makes a dark joke about disabling parental controls on YouTube and offering a kid Midnight Cowboy to watch.
- 25:04Tim watches and describes Elsagate-adjacent video content: women eating ice cream cones in suggestive ways.
- 25:20Toy Freaks family videos feature adults and children eating phallic-shaped foods in ways designed to appear sexual, then transitioning to eating chocolate.
- 25:53The Toy Freaks channel was disabled by YouTube due to inappropriate comments, and the bald man in videos is the family's father.
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- 3 min
More Cartoon Elsagate Content and My Little Pony
#They continue browsing bizarre cartoon Elsagate videos including a My Little Pony Equestria Girls clip, riffing on the sexualized animation and squiggly voices.
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- 26:07Tim imagines bringing a kid to an audition where producers ask her to seductively eat a candy bar and gag on it, claiming it's for a Samantha Bee sketch about feminism.
- 26:41A toy freak creator had his channel pulled and is now declining interviews, invoking the Fifth Amendment.
- 27:08Tim compares a sexually suggestive cartoon character to old innocent cartoons like Betty Rubble.
- 27:32The cartoon characters all have squiggly voices, which Tim wonders might indicate something translated or encrypted.
- 27:58A shirtless animated man's head throbs like a rooster while a character eats it, with imagery that reads as explicit symbolism.
- 28:39The bed scene Tim was looking for is from My Little Pony: Equestria Girls.
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- 5 min
Tim reads the news article about Illinois landscaper Greg Chisholm's Toy Freaks channel being banned after 8.5 million subscribers, and riffs on the economics of exploiting his kids and the country's moral decline.
9moments
- 29:33YouTube shuts down Toy Freaks channel after complaints about exploitation of the creator's daughters.
- 29:58Tim notes the channel had 8.5 million subscribers, describing it as evidence of how many freaks exist in the country.
- 30:41Greg Chisholm, an Illinois landscaper and single dad, ran the channel which evolved into creepy masked villains and gross-out food scenes targeting children.
- 31:23Tim suggests the father made money letting his kids gag on ice cream for viewers who get off on it, framing it as college tuition.
- 31:56Tim jokes about the father blaming trade agreements and manufacturing erosion for needing his daughters to perform for Rensselaer University tuition.
- 32:29Tim compares subscription trouble for Trump content to the ease of getting 8.5 million subscribers with kids crying and eating ice cream.
- 32:51He argues the country is a dark circus with only two dozen people left who aren't completely fucked up.
- 33:06Tim declares he's not bullish on a country where 10 million people watch soft-core child exploitation content on YouTube.
- 33:20The most virtuous people in America are morbidly obese and cannot see their own feet.
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- 3 min
Toy Skanks, Cops, and Blue Wall of Blue Balls
#More disturbing videos are found and described, followed by riffing on police failing to investigate while playing poker online, and a tangent about a nonsensical protest sign.
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- 33:48Toy skanks: creepy masked villain content with children that looks like insane clown posse.
- 34:04Tim on the dad in the ball pit eating a pacifier across multiple videos and the need to investigate.
- 34:20Cops have it easier than ever but are playing poker online instead of tracking down the toy freak.
- 34:41Sign at a Black Lives Matter rally reading "blue wall of blue ball" that someone put effort into.
- 35:10Tim thinks the toy skanks thing is a problem and they're trying to brush it under the carpet.
- 35:22Tim's manager knew the documentary filmmaker and got him on the show without Tim's initial knowledge.
- 35:45Is the toy skanks content actually trending or is it only trending because they're talking about it?
- 36:05Tim refuses to look away while a dad shoves his balls into a kid's mouth, even metaphorically.
- 36:32How do you even find this nonsensical content on YouTube without searching for it deliberately?
- 36:43How does the creator make these videos without being a creep, and how is he so in tune with what creeps want?
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- 1 min
Imagining Greg Chisholm as a Philosophical Guest
#Tim imagines what it would be like to interview Greg Chisholm as an articulate, self-justifying figure explaining the shifting sexual mores of the culture.
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- 37:12Tim imagines Greg Chisholm as a philosophical guest delivering serious cultural commentary about sexual mores and Cotton Mather while broke and trying to fund boat cruises.
- 37:32The absurdist pivot: mid-dissertation on the civil rights movement, he drops into needing money and having kids eat ice cream seductively to afford a boat.
- 37:49Ray's first plane ride is tomorrow to New Orleans, not a cruise as Tim mistakenly referenced.
- 4 min
Ray's First Flight to New Orleans
#Ray reveals it's his first time flying, prompting Tim to walk him through airport security jokes and imagine terrorizing a first-class passenger; they also plan out New Orleans food and sightseeing.
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- 37:58Tim prepares Ray for his first flight to New Orleans, asking about luggage and what to expect at security.
- 38:28Ray must throw out his skull and any liquids before boarding, leading to confusion about TSA liquid rules.
- 38:50Tim complains that airport liquid restrictions don't seem American and jokes about wanting to crack pilots in the head with a bottle.
- 39:04Ray is flying first class, and Tim warns a fellow passenger has no idea what's about to happen to their tranquil experience.
- 39:47Tim describes standing over first-class passengers eating nuts, predicting they'll request a seat in coach to escape him.
- 40:26Discussion of how other first-class passengers might respond—either civil or escalating to actual violence and class warfare.
- 41:06Ray will land in New Orleans Wednesday and they're planning a swamp tour the next day.
- 41:28Tim claims alligators are pussies and expresses excitement for Ray's trip despite the danger he supposedly poses.
- 41:41Tim lists their New Orleans plans: dinner at Brennan's Thursday, World War Two museum, and a plantation tour.
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- 4 min
Lev Fur's Live For 20 Announcement
#Tim reads and reacts to comedian Lev Fur's earnest newsletter announcing a yearly retrospective series comparing his career evolution to Dave Chappelle's.
6moments
- 42:01Tim introduces Lev Fur and acknowledges liking him despite something crazy he just did.
- 42:39Lev released a project that Tim finds funny and slightly nutty, wanting to walk through it.
- 43:02Tim reads Lev's newsletter announcement for a new series starting with his admiration for comedians as a kid listening to Dave Chappelle bootlegs.
- 44:10Something goes wrong in Lev's head before he pitches the actual idea, Tim warns.
- 44:25Lev's concept: wanting to see Chappelle's evolution as both a comedian and a person, which Tim finds presumptuous.
- 45:21The idea for Lev For 20 emerges—a yearly series documenting his comedy life at each age, starting at age 20 with plans for 30 installments if he doesn't quit or die.
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- 4 min
Owen Benjamin's Twitter Feud and Naked Sauna Videos
#Tim discusses comedian Owen Benjamin's rightward turn, his feud with Andy Richter, and a bizarre viral clip of him running naked in the snow, questioning the political drift of comics.
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- 46:55Tim brings up Owen Benjamin's Twitter feud, noting he doesn't know much about him but met him once at Gotham.
- 47:23Owen Benjamin is a right-wing comic who's lost college gigs over his statements on gender ideology, though Tim sees nuance between having beliefs and arguing about them constantly on Twitter.
- 48:06Owen got into a feud with Andy Richter and moved to the woods to embrace hardcore right-wing ideology.
- 48:50Owen's stated rationale: he feels Western civilization is crumbling and needs to defend it on Twitter, which Tim finds questionable.
- 49:21Video shows Owen naked in his backyard during snow, claiming running in and out of his sauna boosts testosterone while calling Andy Richter a fat cunt.
- 49:48Tim questions the trajectory: Owen didn't wake up one day planning to be naked and yelling at Andy Richter, a person he doesn't even appear to know.
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- 3 min
Tax Bill Grievances and Incoherent Republican Philosophy
#Tim relays his aunt's frustration over mortgage deduction changes in the new tax bill and rants about the incoherence of modern Republican and Democrat political alliances.
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- 50:39Tim's aunt made points about the tax bill eliminating mortgage deductions over $500,000, which hurts middle class Long Island homeowners.
- 50:56A TV pundit argued people would save money by not buying health care for twelve hundred bucks, implying they could just die in the street instead.
- 51:51No one can coherently describe what Republican philosophy even is anymore.
- 52:07Republican positions boil down to: anti-abortion, no trans people in bathrooms, hedge funds love no tax on carried interest, and Jesus.
- 52:32There's a weird alliance between mainstream Chuck Schumer Democrats and the far left that wants to burn mansions for economic justice.
- 52:51The distance from Occupy Wall Street to Nancy Pelosi's Georgetown townhouse is a big journey.
- 3 min
Kathy Griffin's Fall From Grace
#Tim discusses Kathy Griffin's career trajectory from D-list striver to A-lister to cancelled pariah, and her public meltdown videos after losing her status.
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- 53:17Tim recalls Elon Musk tweeting support for Kathy Griffin on Twitter, saying "get her, girl."
- 53:31Tim doesn't have an issue with Kathy Griffin anymore because he thinks she's nuts and finds her recent behavior fun.
- 53:46Kathy Griffin released videos calling out people in the business, including Andy Cohen allegedly offering her coke.
- 54:06Tim credits the first season of My Life on the D-List as one of the funniest things, especially if you understand the entertainment industry.
- 54:31Griffin climbed out of the struggling pit to become an A-lister, becoming exactly the kind of person she used to mock.
- 54:44Tim suggests Griffin now knows where bodies are buried after years in Hollywood and has witnessed how people behave behind closed doors.
- 55:04Everything has been taken away from her—she's shaved her head and lost her spots on shows she built her career around.
- 55:27Now stripped of her industry access, Griffin is just making videos, with no connection to the zeitgeist she once chased.
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- 2 min
John Kiriakou, Nick Bryant, and Fame-Seeking Guests
#Tim reflects on past guests like John Kiriakou and Nick Bryant, joking about people's hunger for fame and riffing on getting Ryan Gosling on the show.
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- 55:46Tim criticizes guests who don't stay in their lane, using a CIA figure and Kathy Griffin as examples of people seeking relevance outside their expertise.
- 56:04John Kiriakou explains he's still under house arrest and can't leave to do appearances.
- 56:25Nick Bryant is characterized as someone who just shows up to work, willing to eat bad raw steak without knowing what's next.
- 56:53Tim admits he's stopped trying to book new guests because they typically end up on social media a month later looking desperate.
- 57:08Tim fantasizes about landing A-list celebrity guests like Ryan Gosling despite acknowledging the absurdity of the idea.
- 2 min
New Orleans Restaurant Recommendations
#Tim gives Ray detailed restaurant advice for the New Orleans trip, covering Brennan's eggs Hussarde, Commander's Palace dress code, and oyster bars.
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- 57:41Brennan's has eggs Hussard, which is eggs Benedict with a deep port wine reduction and mushrooms instead of the typical hollandaise.
- 58:06Commander's Palace is great in New Orleans, but it requires a jacket as part of the dress code.
- 58:58Tim argues there's a network code being used to traffic people and that pedophiles want to recruit more pedophiles to manipulate the moral levers of government.
- 59:32The goal, according to Tim, is to normalize pedophilia through media like ice cream cone imagery until people think it's acceptable.
- 3 min
The Kevin Spacey Summer Camp Story
#Tim tells a story from his friend Alex about a pedophile acting teacher at a prep school summer camp, revealing that Kevin Spacey once taught acting there for a month at the height of his fame.
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- 1:00:23Tim introduces a creepy story about a pedophile teacher at Alex's prep school in New York City.
- 1:01:09The pedophile teacher was an acting instructor at a drama summer camp.
- 1:01:31Kevin Spacey taught acting at the same summer camp for a month, 15-16 years ago when his career was still thriving.
- 1:01:50Tim expresses disbelief that an A-list Hollywood actor would teach at a schlocky acting camp in the woods.
- 1:02:07Tim worries about what might have happened at the camp, suggesting kids were being exploited.
- 1:02:20Tim makes a joke about calling the story "True TV" because the truth should set you free.
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- 3 min
Tim runs through upcoming tour dates in Huntington, New Hampshire, Portland Maine, Woodstock, Tampa, and Boston, plugs his Comedy Central taping in New Orleans, and closes with a final joke about Ray investigating Elsagate.
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- 1:02:25Tim announces tour dates and Comedy Central Special taping in New Orleans on December 9th.
- 1:02:59December shows: Huntington, New York on the 1st, Shaskin Pub in New Hampshire on the 13th, Portland, Maine on the 14th.
- 1:03:19Tim co-headlining with Sean Donnelly in Woodstock on December 15th, then Stan Comedy Club for the rest of the month.
- 1:03:33January tour dates: Sidesplitters in Tampa January 2nd-4th, LAF Boston 18th-20th, extended LA run potentially through February.
- 1:04:00New episodes of That Happened coming out on Vice Sports this week.
- 1:04:16Wilson the Comedy Show in Bushwick next Tuesday, December 5th.
- 1:04:41On the Bomis Gate conspiracy, Tim vouches that the person investigating will get to the bottom of it.
- 1:04:58Though there's a chance he'll just eat a po'boy and do nothing about the investigation.
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