Interview · moment 12 of 17
Old-School Road Comedy vs. Instagram-to-Movie-Star Careers
from It Ends Bad (with Yannis Pappas) · #67
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4 minGuest
Discussion of how comedians used to grind on the road for years before success while now social media virality can catapult someone straight into movies, plus how advertisers are shifting to influencer-driven eyeballs as the industry's traditional business model has permanently declined.
- 33:44Tim learned comedy the old-fashioned way, on the road, before getting successful.
- 34:07Now people go viral on Instagram doing a cop rap, get cast in three movies, and skip the comedy apprenticeship entirely.
- 34:42Advertisers are realizing that an 18-second Instagram video of a fitness model doing squats reaches 40 million viewers.
- 35:19The entertainment business decline is totally irreversible; the music industry already crumbled and now only touring pays.
- 35:52Comedians making $30,000 a month on Patreon now walk into meetings asking studios what they can do for them, inverting the old power dynamic.
- 36:15Movies are the last thing you can't crowdsource; you still have to play the Hollywood game and raise money to make films.
- 36:47Studios make all their money selling blockbuster movies to China and Southeast Asia, casting diverse actors so the films work everywhere.
- 37:30The question is whether watching people go from bars to stadiums reveals something real about success or if 'money changes you' is oversimplified.