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Trump and Pulling Out of Afghanistan

from Nazi Crush · #59

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Brief news-style riff on Trump reversing his campaign promise to leave Afghanistan, with Tim arguing no president can stand up to the military industrial complex and the war was always doomed to fail eventually.

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  • 1:04:28Trump ran on leaving Afghanistan and didn't rationalize or hedge his position like other presidents do.
  • 1:04:43Presidents are basically figureheads who give press conferences and pardon turkeys while the military-industrial complex makes major decisions.
  • 1:04:59When shown the consequences of pulling out, Trump apparently couldn't say no to military pressure about ISIS and Taliban filling the vacuum.
  • 1:05:18Trump is a liar, but claiming this pullout wasn't a complete cynical money grab is insane.
  • 1:05:32Every Middle Eastern conflict uses the same argument: if we leave, it'll collapse—but it's going to collapse anyway whether we stay three years or twenty.
  • 1:05:50Afghanistan has no foundation for democracy because it's been a war-torn feudal state forever, and the terrain prevents it from becoming a viable capitalist nation.
  • 1:06:18The pullout isn't really a win, but it's still crazy that we stayed this long.
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