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Revisiting the Kiriakou Interview: Saudi Complicity in 9/11
from Finding the Kumps · #55
Audio-only archive episode — no video to seek.
9 minTim and Ray reflect on last week's John Kiriakou CIA interview, debating theories of Saudi/government complicity in 9/11, redacted 28 pages, Bandar bin Sultan, and researcher Paul Thompson's 9/11 timeline work, plus a detour about a CIA-linked couple's views on Israel.
- 57:57Tim identifies the Saudi angle as the crux of the 9/11 question, noting Kiriakou got quiet when pressed on it.
- 58:25Tim argues elements of the US government and intelligence apparatus were complicit, with Saudis as longtime covert allies.
- 58:42Discussion of whether Bush and Cheney were involved in potential complicity, with Tim suggesting Cheney at least.
- 59:27Tim catalogs evidence of a cover-up: Saudis flown out, 28 pages redacted, Saudi intelligence minister's resignation, Prince Bandar at the White House.
- 1:00:14Theory that relatively few people could have manipulated the process by removing hijackers from watchlists without needing mass conspiracy.
- 1:00:37Tim defends the argument that organizations hate each other and don't share information, citing how actionable intelligence differs from suspicion.
- 1:01:43Observation that Bush administration was fixated on Iraq before 9/11 and may not have been asking the right questions about other threats.
- 1:02:02Tim mentions researcher Paul Thompson, who compiled a 9/11 timeline on History Commons and testified to Congress about pre-9/11 Iraq war planning.
- 1:03:45Paul Thompson's position: if not complicit, the government should be jailed for criminal negligence based on intelligence failures.
- 1:04:39Tim discusses Mossad conspiracy theories about 9/11, noting he hasn't seen widespread claims of Israeli complicity and doesn't find the motive compelling.
Dick CheneyRichard ClarkeGeorge W. BushPrince BandarPaul ThompsonIsraelGulf of TonkinSaudi ArabiaMossadKevin FentonPrince Turki