Interview · moment 4 of 23
Meet-and-Greet Culture and Stand-Up as a Craft
from Behind the Youtube (with Joe Santagato) · #52
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Joe explains his discomfort with fan meet-and-greet mania compared to stand-up comedians grinding at their craft, and they joke about pitching a Cameron Dallas podcast and whether Joe knows any of the MagCon crowd.
- 9:07Tim dislikes meet-and-greet culture and the formal setup of being treated as hugely important by screaming fans, which gives him anxiety.
- 9:43Instagram influencers like Cameron Dallas will record music and perform at meet-and-greets where they play a song in the background and jump around or throw water bottles at each other.
- 10:34Tim spends time around comedians doing stand-up multiple times a night, trying to get good at a specific craft that is dying and nobody really cares about anymore.
- 10:51Stand-up comedy is comparable to jazz musicians being asked to put down their instruments—it's a specific, driven thing you develop confidence in by getting good at it.
- 11:14Young influencers run on stage with zero experience and perform anyway, which Tim finds impressive but also suspects is just a power trip over an audience of homogeneous teenagers.
- 11:57Tim is not really recognized as part of the YouTube community and doesn't interact much with other YouTubers, partly because people don't call him a YouTuber at all.
- 12:25Many of these guys came from Vine and became Vine stars by jumping on beds and taking their shirts off, which is not Tim's brand.
- 12:52Tim's numbers are comparable to most of these kids' numbers, though Cameron Dallas has surpassed him.
- 13:03Cameron Dallas doing a podcast would just be him jumping on a bed instead of speaking into the microphone for an hour.
- 13:19The fundamental problem is that Cameron Dallas would need to actually talk into the microphone, which doesn't fit his bed-jumping brand.