Episode 51 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Fat Wins
Jun 27, 2017 · 1:00:48 · 17 segments, 118 moments indexed
- 1 min
Show intro promo describing GaS Digital Network's focus on billionaires, dictators, and CEOs.
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- 0:15Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell — the show's title card and premise
- 3 min
The Fat Rules: Barbecue Hypocrisy and On the Border
#Tim addresses Instagram followers accusing him of hypocrisy for criticizing barbecue then eating it, explaining the 'fat rules' that exempt fat people from consistency, and tells a story of trashing a Mexican restaurant called On the Border in high school before gorging on its food anyway.
9moments
- 0:40Tim posts a barbecue picture after ranting against barbecue weeks earlier, prompting Twitter accusations of hypocrisy.
- 0:57The fat rules: fat people can complain about food while eating it because fat always wins.
- 1:13Tim clarifies he didn't say all barbecue sucks, just most of what people eat, except places like Mabel's Smokehouse in Brooklyn.
- 1:34No such thing as hypocrisy when you're fat—it doesn't exist as a concept.
- 1:51Tim recalls shitting on On the Border, a Mexican restaurant near his high school in Hixville, Long Island, while a friend's parents brought it home.
- 2:16His friend's parents bring Mexican food and Tim immediately gorges himself, asks where it's from, and when told it's On the Border, everyone laughs at him.
- 2:36Fat people aren't required to abstain from food they've criticized—you have to eat, so hypocrisy accusations don't apply.
- 3:04This pattern repeats throughout Tim's life: he shits on a restaurant, then later returns to eat there because fat wins.
- 3:19Tim addresses Instagram critics calling him a hypocrite for not knowing the rules fat people live under.
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- 1 min
Tim and Ray thank a listener named Sean for sending Subway and Starbucks gift cards ahead of his surgery, joking about needing medical professionals.
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- 3:50One camera is broken, so they're using a photo of a raccoon to portray Ray Komp.
- 4:14Sean is having surgery; Tim and Ray wish him the best and say they'll pray for him.
- 2 min
Skankfest Recap and the Naked Roast
#Tim and Ray recall meeting fans at Skankfest, the surreal experience of being recognized, and a wild 'naked roast' event, plus a bit about edibles ending up forgotten in pockets.
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- 4:34Tim describes Skankfest as a surreal moment where fans wanted his picture instead of him taking secret pictures of them.
- 4:54He compares the experience to a peeping tom being asked for a photo.
- 5:11The naked roast at Skankfest was intense and pushed comedy into oddity territory.
- 5:22Tim says attending Skankfest guaranteed you had an experience.
- 2 min
The Edible Boom and Marijuana Culture
#Tim riffs on the modern edibles market, comedians getting too high before shows, weird pot-infused food trends, and whether he handles alcohol and drugs well compared to Ray.
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- 6:18Tim smoked weed heavily from 1998 to 2010, but edibles didn't exist back then—just homemade brownies or Rice Krispie treats.
- 6:48Why do chefs now insist on infusing food with weed when you could just have a steak and a drink separately, like beer chicken is a flavor component but scotch-infused steak isn't a thing?
- 7:18When something gets legalized, people go crazy trying to figure out new ways to make money, which is what happened with the edible market.
- 7:34Edibles are unpredictable—when you ingest them, you don't know when or how hard they'll hit, so comedians will show up to gigs completely wrecked after eating one thirty minutes prior.
- 7:55Tim doesn't get the whole pot edible thing because there's too much weed in them and it's impossible to scale down what you're actually getting.
- 8:09The other person accuses Tim of not handling anything well, noting he doesn't handle alcohol well either.
- 1 min
The Can of Wine Incident
#Ray recounts accidentally drinking a can of wine last episode thinking it was beer, and Tim grills him about whether that constitutes handling alcohol well.
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- 8:36Tim quotes himself from the current episode claiming he handles alcohol well.
- 8:51Guest explains he didn't realize it was wine until he started drinking it, having grabbed what he thought was a beer.
- 2 min
Teenage Weed Culture and Growing Up in the Suburbs
#Tim describes his teenage years smoking weed and cyphers on Long Island, roving with friends with nowhere to go, and argues that adolescence is the ideal time to experiment with drugs before adult responsibilities set in.
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- 9:09Tim notes the wine cost at least $4, framing his drinking patterns as wasteful rather than measured.
- 9:31Most people he knows smoke all the time, multiple times a day, not occasionally.
- 9:56Tim says he never regrets not having a relationship with drugs now, but thinks young people should smoke a lot of pot when they're 17 with no obligations.
- 10:19That 15-to-21 window—or earlier with a fake ID—is when you should be able to drink and smoke without restrictions.
- 10:36Teen life meant roving bands of kids smoking behind stores, at the beach, or in somebody's car because there was nowhere else to go.
- 10:55Kids would stand outside liquor stores asking adults to buy them bottles, or he'd leave home just to sit in a parking lot at a bookstore to escape being inside.
- 5 min
Class, Comedy, and Moderation Debate with Ray
#Tim and Ray debate whether wealthy kids have it easier for partying, argue about moderation and whether people should do drugs at all, and riff on the idea of a 'traveling businessman' hiring kabuki girls.
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- 11:24Wealthy families don't face restrictions because their parents are out of town and they have acres of private property.
- 11:41Tim describes the experience of asking strangers to buy cigarettes outside stores, and the people who would actually help.
- 12:03Smoking weed in cyphers and walking around parks or beaches was the best time to do drugs because youth meant fewer responsibilities.
- 12:31Plenty of professionals—teachers, professors—smoke pot after getting off work, and it doesn't require being in a cutthroat field.
- 13:11Tim's assessment: Ray shouldn't drink or do anything because his life would be better without it, though most people won't listen.
- 13:48The funnest times Tim had with weed were at seventeen years old.
- 14:04People who are high all the time are making a mistake, though he acknowledges some outliers doing well in comedy while constantly high.
- 14:31Most people in their mid-thirties getting stoned constantly are living paycheck to paycheck, getting drunk and celebrating nothing.
- 15:04Suburban kids who weren't losers had fun experimenting with substances—smoking weed, drinking, learning their tolerance—before college changed things.
- 15:33Tim pictures Japanese kabuki girls accompanying traveling businessmen, leading to speculation about the cost and nature of such arrangements.
- 6 min
Tim plays and reacts to the Project Veritas leaked video of CNN producers admitting the Russia collusion story is mostly ratings-driven speculation, and debates with Ray over whether CNN's behavior constitutes journalistic malpractice or normal aggressive reporting.
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- 16:20Project Veritas releases hidden camera footage of CNN producers admitting the Russia story is bogus and driven by ratings.
- 17:58Leaked CNN video: producers say "this is ratings" and "it's mostly bullshit right now" regarding Russia coverage.
- 18:55Tim argues running with a story you think is bullshit because it drives ratings is extremely bad journalism.
- 20:02Comparison: if he investigated someone for pedophilia with no evidence based on anonymous sources, taking the whole news staff and pushing it for months, that would be irresponsible.
- 20:38Tim rejects the intelligence apparatus as justification—without actual evidence, claims from John Brennan or James Comey don't matter.
- 20:57John Brennan and the CIA are planting the Russia idea in CNN's heads and they're inventing stories to fill it.
- 21:08CNN has retracted multiple Trump-Russia connection stories, including attempts to link him through Anthony Scaramucci and Jared Kushner.
- 21:50The video shows CNN producers are biased and willing to bend facts, but it doesn't prove whether the Russia story itself is true or false.
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- 8 min
Declining Empire: Is America Falling Like Rome or Britain?
#Tim and Ray argue about whether America is a declining empire comparable to Rome or the British Empire, discussing economic bubbles, the placation of the population, and whether the U.S. could face civil unrest.
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- 22:36CNN hammered one story for four months straight with no other coverage.
- 23:17Producers admitted they're pushing the story for ratings without real evidence.
- 23:57Tim questions when the investigation ends and what actual evidence exists.
- 24:53The government lied about Abu Ghraib, weapons of mass destruction, Gulf of Tonkin, and countless other things.
- 25:37America is a declining empire showing real cracks like Britain did after its peak.
- 26:29People are less engaged and activist now compared to the 1960s and 1930s.
- 27:02You get better information asking a random person at a deli than watching mainstream news.
- 27:50The economy is fundamentally a bubble that requires constant expansion.
- 28:26Humans have an innate biological desire to see carnage and want things burned down.
- 29:11The economic system is technically possible to scale down but will never happen, so it will blow up.
- 29:29Society is dancing on the head of a pin, burning candles on both ends—collapse is inevitable.
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- 9 min
Pentagon Mega-City Warfare and Hurricane Sandy Looting
#Discussion of a Pentagon report predicting future urban warfare in mega-cities with large slum populations, tying into memories of gas shortages, looters and armed homeowners on Long Island after Hurricane Sandy.
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- 30:38Pentagon reports that future megacities with large slum populations and civil unrest will be the battlegrounds for modern warfare.
- 31:23Tim questions whether the Pentagon is full of shit about megacity warfare or if they're really talking about population control and martial law.
- 32:05Discussion of whether future urban warfare means fighting in American cities against our own people or foreign wars in places like Russia.
- 32:58Economic collapse and financial crisis—when the government can't print money or bail everyone out—will lead to unemployment and tent cities.
- 33:46Unlike other declining empires, the U.S. still has overwhelming military and technological dominance, so the decline won't be a sudden switch.
- 34:22Rome declined over a hundred fifty years before the West fell, while the Eastern Roman Empire lasted a thousand years.
- 35:31America's larger, more spread-out population means economic collapse and displacement could be messier and more violent than what happened to Britain.
- 36:20Climate change and repeated major hurricanes displacing populations constantly over a year or two would strain the entire system.
- 37:17Repeated disasters are like psychological terrorism—constant car bombs wearing people down—rather than one massive single event.
- 37:57After Hurricane Sandy, people in Staten Island were defending homes with guns and bats while others drove around looking for houses to rob.
- 38:34Disenfranchised people in Long Island and Westchester could turn violent and attack others when society's structures finally crack during the next major disaster.
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- 4 min
Redlining, Systemic Racism, and a Clueless Cop Friend
#Tim recounts a frustrating lunch with a cop friend who had no historical context for redlining and systemic racism, leading into a broader discussion with Ray about white privilege and disenfranchisement.
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- 39:19Looters targeting middle-class neighborhoods during civil unrest, avoiding rich areas with security systems and dogs.
- 40:13Middle-class people afraid of Black people underestimate how terrified they are, unwilling to admit advantages they've had in life.
- 41:03Tim explains redlining and housing discrimination to a cop friend who responds with "what?"
- 41:26The cop dismisses systemic racism by saying "that was then, this is now" with no historical context.
- 41:45Tim criticizes both PC college kids obsessed with identity politics and people who deny racism exists altogether.
- 42:12Felony convictions for minor drug offenses trap young people in permanent poverty and joblessness.
- 42:28Critics point to individual failures as evidence against systemic racism rather than acknowledging structural factors.
- 42:48The specific historical harm to Black Americans—slavery, then decades of draconian laws—is fundamentally different from discrimination against other groups.
- 43:08People in situations of systematic disadvantage make poor choices not from inability to think but from constrained circumstances.
- 43:22White privilege means Tim and his friend make shitty choices but end up fine anyway, while others don't get that margin for error.
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- 6 min
Amish Rumspringa as a Model for Everyone
#Tim jokes that everyone should get a 'Rumspringa' year to do drugs and make bad choices before settling down, citing his own reckless past with pills and driving, then wonders about Amish retention rates after Rumspringa.
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- 43:35Tim details his own wild youth: cocaine in the glove box, Oxycontin, snorting lines off a CD case while driving and getting in accidents.
- 44:02The baseline should be that everybody gets a Rumspringa-style year to get wild on drugs and do crazy stuff.
- 44:32Tim asks what percentage of Amish kids actually return after Rumspringa.
- 45:15Tim pitches Rumspringa as a gap year concept: take a year, figure yourself out, have sex, try things, then decide if that life is for you.
- 45:54Some people have a great time during that wild year but still decide everything that makes sense to them on a deep level is back home.
- 46:18Tim compares it to Long Island: people move away for college but often end up back because it's ingrained in your DNA.
- 46:45Debate over whether most people actually stay where they grew up or move away—Tim says there are real examples of people who do move.
- 47:41They pull up a statistic showing how far people move away from home based on geographic region.
- 48:18Explanation that Western sprawl means 26 miles isn't as significant as 26 miles in dense areas like New York City.
- 49:08Retention rate after Rumspringa is 80 to 90 percent depending on the community.
- 5 min
Planning the Anniversary Show and the Johnny Gosch Live Bit
#Tim and Ray brainstorm ideas for a live anniversary event, including a strip club/pool party, an all-star guest lineup, and a bizarre pitch to do a live show on the stoop where Johnny Gosch was abducted.
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- 49:29Anniversary show could involve private strippers and a party with select fans.
- 50:04He explained to a Norwegian family that America's economy is based on murder, and they liked it.
- 50:16Planning the 50th episode of the show—considering a live event versus a cavalcade of best guests.
- 50:41Tim won't do the event if only three people show up, because those three people already know they hurt his feelings.
- 51:08If they do a live event, it needs to be packed with guests like an all-star team.
- 51:24Someone suggested they should have done a Pride float featuring Tim Dillon, Gary Vee, Russ Baker, Norm MacDonald, and Lou Pearlman.
- 51:48He attended Skankfest for most of the day and then went to a weird networking event for gay people in media.
- 52:12The media event was just people waiting for Andy Cohen or Anderson Cooper who never showed up.
- 52:31Tim compares the dynamic of desperate people waiting for something that won't arrive to mortgages and comedy, and to a kid waiting for his father.
- 53:47Idea for the anniversary show: do a live broadcast from the block where Johnny Gosch was abducted in Iowa.
- 54:03They'll sit on the stoop doing the show from an Uber parked in front of the house, possibly without a permit.
- 54:16Tim suggests they could do a GoFundMe—a 'Go Gosch Me'—to visit the area where Johnny Gosch disappeared.
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- 2 min
Gay Media Networking Event That Went Nowhere
#Tim describes attending an awkward 'gay people in media' networking event where anticipated celebrity guests like Andy Cohen or Anderson Cooper never showed, comparing it to desperate energy he sees in mortgages and comedy.
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- 54:34Tim describes attendees at the event as great-looking kids in miniskirts with flirty eyes
- 54:49Every kid approaches him saying 'Hey, Daddy' and he tells them to stop
- 55:11Guest pushes back on the implication that kids' clothing choices excuse predatory behavior
- 55:31Tim argues you have to be certain about age before approaching someone sexually
- 55:45Tim does a bit as a soccer coach responding to a child saying 'Hey, daddy'
- 55:56Someone at Skankfest wanted to animate the 'daddy' bit and asked for permission
- 4 min
Bombing at Caroline's and Hosting Burnout
#Tim talks about recent rough comedy sets, losing patience with disengaged crowds at clubs like Caroline's and Junior's in Times Square, and reflects with Ray on the difficulty of hosting without compromising his act.
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- 56:09Tim describes bombing at Caroline's: he told two jokes that usually work, they didn't land, and he gave up.
- 56:27He told the audience at Caroline's he has no investment in them having a good time.
- 56:54Tim characterizes Times Square comedy crowds as people disappointed they couldn't get Hamilton tickets.
- 57:27His image of the typical Caroline's audience: a man and his annoyed wife thinking about Junior's cheesecake instead of listening.
- 57:49When Tim snaps on stage and tells audiences the truth, it sometimes becomes funny.
- 58:25He admits he's just angry when it doesn't work and can't see a way out of the frustration.
- 58:47Being good at hosting becomes a curse—the more you nail it, the more they book you to host.
- 59:22Comedy club audiences vary: some are genuine fans, but many are confused tourists who don't know what they're watching.
- 59:44Tim wrestles with the problem that pleasing every type of crowd requires compromising his actual material.
- 1 min
Tim runs through upcoming tour dates in Denver, Lansing, Mohegan Sun, and Wilmington, and tells listeners to hold off on the website while it's being updated, closing out the show.
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- 1:00:10Tim advises against visiting the website yet while he gets tour dates organized for Instagram and Twitter instead.