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Vatican Gay Bars, Church Money, and AA Meeting Weirdos
from Find Your God (with Dan St. Germain) · #25
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5 minTim and Dan riff on becoming ministers, the Vatican's finances and alleged gay bar funding, the book Papal Sin, and bizarre characters at AA meetings including a delusional man in the back.
- 30:52Tim recounts driving back from a silent retreat and attempting to rescue a limping dog on the road.
- 31:30The dog runs away and joins a pack that growls at him, forcing Tim to retreat to his car.
- 31:59He used to attend Catholic retreats on Shelter Island until someone burned down the chapel and other buildings.
- 32:36Tim recently went to Mount Carmel Church in North Haven and has expressed interest in becoming a minister.
- 33:01Minister salaries are only 40 to 90 thousand dollars, which kills any genuine interest in the job.
- 33:33Vatican City is described as yellow brick road territory with wealthy art collections and aggressive begging outside the Sistine Chapel.
- 33:57A high-level cardinal at the Vatican bought the world's biggest gay bar with Church money, half a mile from the Church grounds.
- 34:29Tim claims widespread homosexuality exists openly in Rome among clergy, contradicting official Church suppression of the topic.
- 35:01The Vatican maintains a massive bank filled with old money and rooms containing works by artists like Francis Bacon.
- 35:23The book Papal Stan documents the Church's historical acquiescence with the Nazis and accumulated spooky dealings spanning centuries.
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