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Russ Baker's Reaction and the Craig Spence/Franklin Connections
from This Ain't Great · #10
Audio-only archive episode — no video to seek.
4 minTim recounts Russ Baker's obsessive reaction after watching the documentary, discusses Craig Spence's call boy ring and the White House press pass conspiracy angle, and muses on the psychological toll of investigating this material.
- 16:17Tim received a call from Russ Baker about a documentary called 'Who Took Johnny' that sent him down a three-week rabbit hole.
- 16:28Baker wanted to do a podcast about it but Tim said the material was too dark to pursue.
- 16:51Johnny Gosch was a paperboy who disappeared and somehow had a White House press pass without credentials, according to the documentary.
- 17:21Tim notes that examining this material plays with your mind, as if by design, mixing outlandish claims with real elements.
- 17:35People laugh when Tim mentions Satanists abducting children in casual conversation, but the 1980s panic was widespread.
- 17:53The FBI kept denying satanic ritual abuse was happening while actual victims described horns, chants, and bloodletting.
- 18:45Kids describing ritualistic abuse after trauma might sound like hallucinations, but dressing as a demon while molesting someone would naturally produce demonic descriptions.
- 19:16Some of the abuse victims from the documentary and book have allegedly been murdered.
- 19:57Tim texted Baker a joke address and asked if it was a trap, then Baker responded he was en route.
- 20:10Tim notes that when someone does the kind of work Baker does, the complications become unavoidable.
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