Subjects/subject
torture
Tim’s take
He treats the CIA torture program as one of the worst things the government has done, returning across the Kiriakou interviews to the same facts: waterboarding designed and administered by doctors, Mitchell and Jessen billing $81 million for a program that produced nothing usable, and mostly innocent men grabbed off battlefields 24:51 1:16:00 1:24:04 35:59. He is explicit that this isn't a conspiracy theory but documented government policy, and calls the clinical, doctor-designed nature of it more disturbing than sadism would have been 8:13 27:14.
Outside the interviews it becomes a recurring reference point rather than a fresh argument: he mocks the "where are they now" framing of Guantanamo detainees who got tortured for a decade on bad intelligence 1:00:10, works it into an Ellen bit about celebrities ignoring atrocity 8:13, and uses the "ticking time bomb" justification as a stock example of manufactured pretexts, comparing it to police buying a robot dog 42:51. The position never wavers — it's always condemnation, never justification, even when the vehicle is a joke 1:11:59.1:11:59
Every Reference (9)
"And you know that was something that was very distressing to me. You know I understand looking forward, I really do because if you're a CIA officer and you're told that the Justice Department has approved these techniques, okay, then you carry out these techniques, I get it."
Abu Zubaydah's Torture and the CIA-FBI Turf War — Inside the Cia (with John Kiriakou)+1s into the segment"Now, going over the torture thing, one thing, what's been published is horrendous. What's a mainstream understanding of Abu Ghraib, for instance, and the extended torture program is horrendous."
Kennedy, Mary Meyer, and Suspicious Deaths of Saudi Princes — Inside the Cia (with John Kiriakou)+655s into the segment"about the torture when Shane mayor is writing about torture like One of the most disturbing things about it was the fact that this program was designed by doctors"
"And the banality of evil, the fact we had doctors involved in designing these programs and instituting them and torturing people sometimes to death, people that were in many cases innocent, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time."
John Kiriakou's Torture Whistleblowing Backstory — Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou)+125s into the segment"going to start using. And I said, oh man, that sounds like a torture program. But you know what? Let me think about it for an hour."
Post-9/11 CIA Culture and the Abu Zubaydah Torture Program — Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou)+75s into the segment"else he hasn't told us. So it was this never-ending cycle of torture for him. And what did that produce? Did that produce anything"
The CIA's 'Sociopath' and the Zero Dark Thirty Analyst — Our Best Episode (Inside the CIA with John Kiriakou)+25s into the segment"we brutally tortured people many of them were innocent did that bother anyone by the way that's not a conspiracy theory that's the united states government"
Ellen's CIA Asset Theory and Segment Producer Torture Fantasy — #211 - Snubbed | The Tim Dillon Show+114s into the segment"anybody is there not one success story is there not one person we tortured mercilessly for a decade based on dubious intelligence that came"
Where Are They Now: Guantanamo's First Detainees — #245 - It's Saturday Night! | The Tim Dillon Show+89s into the segment"this guy this limo driver knows where the nuke is and we gotta torture him so we can find out what would you do in a ticking Time Bomb"
Digidog for Hostage Standoffs Instead of Human Negotiators — K5 & Digidog | The Tim Dillon Show #362+35s into the segment