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Michael Jackson, Leaving Neverland, and Separating Art from Artist

from White Marble with Paul Virzi | The Tim Dillon Show #314 · #314

4 min

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A serious discussion of the Leaving Neverland documentary, the parents who allegedly handed their kids over to Michael Jackson, comparisons to Bill Cosby and Woody Allen, and how hard it is to enjoy an artist's work once you know what they did.

In this bit8 moments
  • Tim asked for his stance on Michael Jackson, admits he can't listen to his music anymore after learning about the allegations.
  • True crime podcasts exploiting deaths of children for profit, particularly women-hosted shows like My Favorite Murder, strike him as immoral.
  • Leaving Neverland documentary presents accounts from multiple accusers with matching details about Jackson requesting extended time with children.
  • Parents allegedly allowed Jackson to have their children for half a year, which he describes as insane and fucked up.
  • Michael Jackson is an incredible artist, but the allegations make it impossible to listen to his music without thinking about them.
  • Bill Cosby told great community stories but drugged and assaulted women for 30 years, making it impossible to separate the behavior from the work.
  • The tension between separating art from artist versus the difficulty of enjoying someone's work when they've done something heinous, especially for fathers.
  • Being a father makes the Michael Jackson situation particularly difficult to compartmentalize.
Mentioned here

Michael JacksonBill CosbyWoody Allentrue crimeMy Favorite MurderLeaving Neverland

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