Interview · moment 19 of 23
Knowing What You Don't Know, and the Art of Going Away
from The Return Of Shame with Dan Soder | The Tim Dillon Show #363 · #363
6 min
Guest
They discuss staying in your lane on topics like relationships, and the lost art of disappearing from public life and returning, praising Bo Burnham's approach versus creators who overstay their welcome.
- Tim avoids talking about male-female relationships because he doesn't have genuine knowledge of that subject matter.
- He can discuss Harry and Meghan as con artists because their dynamic is based on conniving, which he understands.
- Modern culture has lost the art of going away — the idea of stepping back and returning stronger rather than constantly pushing content.
- Burnham demonstrates the value of disappearing and returning: audiences understand he knows what he's doing, unlike creators who overstay their welcome.
- Familiarity breeds contempt — people hate content they're exposed to constantly without understanding why.
- The idea of saying 'I don't know' has become almost extinct in modern discourse.
- A current snapshot of culture gets treated as permanent when everything is always changing — people's tastes, consumption habits, and preferences shift constantly.
- Few people can predict how things will shift; Tim worked in radio from 2003 to 2009 with no idea podcasting would replace it.
- Sexual innuendo in 1950s and early Carson-era late shows was clever because it had to be dirty without being explicit.
- Tim does the show because he thinks it's good and could walk away, unlike creators who keep grinding because they depend on the income.