Interview · moment 13 of 30
Unwired Planet, WML Smartphones, and the phcm/swcm Stock Ticker Joke
from The Acid Story with Curtis Yarvin | The Tim Dillon Show #310 · #310
7 min
Guest
Curtis details his career at Geoworks and Unwired Planet/Phone.com building early smartphone software, the company's dot-com IPO stock ticker jokes (PHCM/SWCM), and losing money holding onto bubble-era stocks like Webvan.
- Unwired Planet—a smartphone company in the 1990s with WML browser technology that shipped a billion units.
- Tim rewrote the browser core and had his code shipped on a billion devices for which he was paid nothing.
- He tried using WML to get driving directions in 1999 and found the experience so embarrassing he avoided using it.
- Japanese hardware companies designed the entire UX and sent screenshots; engineers like Tim had to write code matching those screenshots exactly.
- Tim moved to Unwired Planet, a more sophisticated company that hired people like a former Secretary of the Interior under Carter to schmooze with carriers.
- Unwired Planet was run by Alain Rossman, a Silicon Valley Steve Jobs wannabe whom Tim describes as looking like a homeless chess player.
- The company pivoted to creating an alternate cell phone internet world, and Tim made money off technology that ultimately didn't work.
- The CTO browsed the domain registry and decided to pay fifty thousand dollars to change the company name from Unwired Planet to Phone.com.
- An internal contest determined the stock ticker symbol; Tim's office mate considered submitting PHCM—pronounceable as 'fuck him'—but decided it was unprofessional.
- The company went public with stock symbol PHCM ('fuck them'), then merged with Software.com whose symbol was SWCM, creating the perfect unintended joke: everybody's 'fuck stuck fuck them.'
- The stock peaked at a 10 billion dollar valuation before becoming worthless; Tim sold early and reinvested in Webvan and other dot-com companies, losing money again.
- After the bubble burst, Tim switched companies and considered pursuing independent computer science research, having just married his wife.
- He worked for a Japanese-owned company that had purchased Palm Pilot code, describing the operation as a mess.
Unwired PlanetWebvanAlain RossmanPalm Pilot