Interview · moment 25 of 28
JD Vance's Rise and Trump's Teasing Dinner with Murdoch
from Donald Trump’s Endgame | The Tim Dillon Show #501 · #501
5 min
Guest
Discussion of why Tucker pushed Trump to pick Vance over Rubio, Vance's genuine ideological commitment to non-interventionism, and an anecdote about Rupert Murdoch praising Rubio over Vance at a White House dinner while Trump watched the tension play out.
- Tucker Carlson convinced Trump to pick JD Vance as VP instead of Marco Rubio, warning that deep-state forces would assassinate Trump if Rubio became VP because they knew Rubio would execute their plans.
- JD Vance believes in nationalist and isolationist policies much more deeply and consistently than Trump does, including stricter anti-intervention and harder-line immigration stances.
- Trump picked Vance partly because he thinks Vance is smart and handsome, and is impressed that Vance got into Yale without a rich father—Trump casts people like a TV producer selecting for roles.
- Trump enjoys messing with Vance, as evidenced by a dinner at the White House with Robert Murdoch where Trump asks Murdoch to compare the two.
- At a White House peace dinner in the blue room months after Murdoch's Wall Street Journal story about Trump's Epstein birthday card, Trump asks Murdoch what he thinks of Vance.
- Murdoch tells Vance he has potential to be great, then praises Marco Rubio as brilliant moments later—a backhanded move given Murdoch had worked to prevent Vance from becoming VP.
- Much of the donor class and hawkish voices at Mar-a-Lago, who influence Trump, are anti-Vance, creating pressure on the vice president from Trump's inner circle.
- Despite donor class opposition, Vance remains the most likely presidential nominee after Trump based on reporting, with no sign Rubio is building a challenge and Rubio publicly supporting him.
- Trump is unlikely to make the path to nomination easy for Vance, even if Vance ends up becoming the nominee.
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