Interview · moment 10 of 20
Immigration, Citizenship, and the Kryger Poultry Plant
from Bernie Sanders | The Tim Dillon Show #467 · #467
10 min
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Tim and Sanders debate ICE raids, border security failures under both parties, the Kryger poultry plant story about wages rising after a workplace raid, and the need for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship.
- Tim argues that immigration has been the dominant political issue in recent elections across the US and UK.
- The Kryger poultry plant raid in Georgia forced owners to hire American workers and raise wages when undocumented labor dried up.
- Tim notes people oppose mass immigration partly because they're suffering without healthcare while the justification is that these are jobs Americans won't do.
- Nation states require borders; Trump did better on border security than Biden, though Trump didn't do it perfectly either.
- With roughly 10 million undocumented people in the country—less than 3% of the population—the question becomes what the appropriate response should be.
- Undocumented immigrants came here illegally, but the real fault lies with employers like Steve Wynn who exploit them and don't use E-Verify.
- Tim compares demagoguing against immigrants to how authoritarian regimes historically blamed powerless minorities like Jews and gypsies instead of addressing real problems.
- The crime rate in communities of undocumented people is actually lower than the general average, contradicting Trump's framing of them as lawless.
- The Democratic party abandoned workers' rights advocacy on immigration, allowing Republicans to demagogue the issue despite it historically benefiting pro-business interests like the Koch brothers.
- Congress should pursue comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship rather than mass deportations or open-ended immigration.
- A path towards citizenship is the goal Congress should set for itself to resolve the immigration crisis.
- Immigration reform is a terribly important issue that Congress needs to deal with.
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