Interview · moment 24 of 26
Their New Game Show and How 'In the Mix' Hollywood Lies Work
from Bad Friends | The Tim Dillon Show #425 · #425
6 min
Guest
They discuss self-financing a new R-rated game show pilot, and go deep on the euphemisms agents and casting use ('in the mix,' 'pin in you,' 'different direction') to soften rejection, plus Whitney's sitcom audition snub story.
- Tim and his team are shooting a pilot for a game show they financed and created themselves, modeled after Eric André's format.
- The business side of Hollywood keeps forcing them to make their own projects because dealing with studios and networks becomes impossible.
- Tim explains the Hollywood terminology: being "in the mix" or getting "pinned" means absolutely nothing and changes overnight.
- The casting process works by first getting a callback saying you're "in the mix," then the language shifts to mean you're a backup option.
- Tim describes being a last resort: they're negotiating with someone better and you're the reserve they'll call if that falls through.
- When rejected, agents never say "they don't want you" directly—instead they claim "they're moving in a different direction."
- Agents are spineless and will flip-flop based on whatever the actor says, like a real estate agent mirroring a buyer's concerns about a property.
- Tim was called in for an audition on Whitney Cummings' sitcom for a part they'd already cast, conducted by a woman with an iPhone in a storage room.
- Tim prefers when producers reject him upfront rather than pretend to care; phony interest is worse than honest rejection.
- The worst offer is when you show up on set and realize the producers are concerned about your performance, watching from village video with worry.
- He appreciates the scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood where DiCaprio's character rips on himself for forgetting a line because it felt authentically real to his own experience.
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