Interview · moment 5 of 28
Defund the Police, Slogans, and the Andrew Yang 'Guardians' Tweet
from #204 - Katie Herzog | The Tim Dillon Show · #204
4 min
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Katie argues loud activists are out of touch with what most Americans (including black communities) actually want from police reform, discusses the irony of 'defund the police' policy contradictions, and they mock Andrew Yang's suggestion to just rename police 'Guardians.'
- Loudest activists are often out of touch with the American people, even when supporting valid causes like police reform.
- 'Defund the police' and 'abolish the police' are unpopular slogans that alienate people, even among Black communities most affected by police violence.
- Black communities polled actually want functional police, not abolition—they want police to help when called and not brutalize them.
- Defunding police means fewer officers and longer response times, which harms the communities that rely most on police response.
- When you ask protest leaders what 'abolish the police' actually means, they walk it back to something like rebuilding the force or community policing.
- Relying on empty slogans like 'defund the police' or 'build the wall' turns people off, regardless of what they actually mean.
- Andrew Yang tweeted suggesting calling police 'the Guardians' instead, but changing the name doesn't fix anything if the same people and systems remain.
- Some successes emerging from protests: San Francisco announced police reforms and Minneapolis is attempting to rebuild policing as community-focused organization.
police brutalityabolish the policeBlack Lives MatterAndrew YangSan FranciscoSeattle Police DepartmentMinneapolisBreonna Taylor