Interview · moment 16 of 29
How to Get Hollywood's Respect Without Selling Out
from Francis Ellis · #144
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2 minGuest
Francis discusses being told he won't get hired because of how he looks, and Tim advises him to build his own indie brand rather than chase institutional respect, riffing on white comedians performing extreme wokeness to survive.
- 38:27Tim's solution for not getting hired: the pirate ship — being entertaining, which he's already doing.
- 38:38The real issue is wanting Hollywood's respect, wanting to sit at the Emmy next to Jimmy Kimmel and Fallon.
- 38:52Tim loves Patricia Neal and Bill Burr because they had opinions and said what they wanted, never needing those rooms.
- 39:22Looking the way he does combined with working in sports makes getting that respect from Hollywood tougher.
- 39:40Harvard guy wanting the respect of other Harvard guys who write for the Tonight Show or SNL — that's genuinely tough.
- 40:03Tim's satirical take on how to play the game: express self-hatred and anti-colonial guilt at every family dinner instead.
HollywoodPatricia Neil BillHarvardSaturday Night LiveEmmyJimmy KimmelJimmy Fallon