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The Pedophile Conspiracy Rabbit Hole and Losing Innocence

from What is Shangri-La · #129

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3 min

They discuss the toll of investigating dark conspiracy topics involving child trafficking, referencing a mother they interviewed, and conclude that society's power structures are organized around protecting predators, leaving them disillusioned.

In this bit9 moments
  • 10:22Tim argues the organizing principle of any society is pedophilia.
  • 10:40Learning about conspiracy theories hasn't made him or his co-host better off — he's now dealing with infections and can't eat sugar without getting dizzy.
  • 10:57People constantly approach Tim claiming to believe the conspiracy, but he and his co-host are just "a band of ne'er-do-wells, collectively."
  • 11:20They're not Spotlight-style journalists who cracked a case over ten years; the public doesn't care and pursuing this material will ruin your life commercially and personally.
  • 12:00Tim has looked into the eyes of researchers like Nick Bryant and Russ Baker and seen what the work does to them — they walk that road alone.
  • 12:34There's no commercial interest in the alternative history Tim and Ray tried to present — just the facts without hysteria.
  • 13:06The real material worth discussing involves declassified CIA operations, not Alex Jones ranting about vampire bats raping kids in phone booths.
  • 13:26People don't want responsible investigation; they want hysteria because they are hysterics themselves.
  • 13:38The audience that warms to this material consists of people questioning society, not people doing great in their lives.
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Alex JonesCIANick BryantRuss BankersMr. GarrisBasquiat

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