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Bush's Lifelong Ambition and the Angleton 'Hell' Quote

from Dead President with Russ Baker · #125

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5 min

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Baker argues Bush's presidency was driven by raw personal ambition rather than ideological vision, questions whether Dan Quayle was chosen as 'assassination insurance,' and closes with a haunting deathbed quote from CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton about everyone in that room ending up in hell.

In this bit11 moments
  • 1:20:44Tim explains Bush family's 24-year wait to reach the presidency: Reagan gets eight years, then Poppy assumes he'll struggle to win against charismatic Democrats like Gary Hart or Teddy Kennedy.
  • 1:21:10Reagan gets shot in March 1981, weeks into his presidency, and the public accepts the Jodie Foster cover story without question.
  • 1:21:39Tim notes that while some kooky people exist in America, powerful interests openly support targeted assassinations—Venezuela's Chavez, Castro—making convenient lone-gunman stories suspect.
  • 1:22:09During the 1960s and '70s, major civil rights leaders and political threats to the Republican establishment were systematically attacked, not randomly.
  • 1:22:31The Hinckley family's connection to the Bush family is so extraordinary Tim's publisher warned him to remove it from his book as too inflammatory.
  • 1:23:02The Hinckley brothers were having dinner with Neil Bush the night of Reagan's shooting, and the Hinckley family faced a million-dollar fine from the Reagan-Bush administration that allegedly disappeared.
  • 1:23:34Bush's actual presidential accomplishments boil down mostly to circumstance—the Gulf War—suggesting he was never genuinely interested in policy or governance.
  • 1:23:58Tim argues Bush Sr. had no philosophy or vision; he famously admitted he lacked a clear perspective, and his son George W. was taught to adopt convenient rhetoric like born-again Christianity with equal cynicism.
  • 1:24:27Becoming president was vanity for Bush, not the culmination of deep strategic machinations—he wanted the title and the optics of being a great man.
  • 1:24:45Dan Quayle as VP functioned as assassination insurance: inexplicable as a choice except that he was good-looking, making him too ridiculous to remove without raising suspicion.
  • 1:25:28James Angleton, dying CIA counterintelligence chief, told someone in a room that he was certain everyone at the table when the CIA began would end up in hell, then looked at a woman and said he was about to join them there.
Mentioned here

James AngletonDan QuayleH.W. BushJeb BushJohn Hinckley Jr.Neil BushRonald ReaganGeorge WallaceHinckley familyHugo ChávezBush familyJodie FosterFidel CastroRobert Ludlum

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