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Obama's Healthcare Legacy Debate and the Tea Party's Origins
from Carney Code · #123
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4 minTim and Ray debate how much credit Obama deserves for the ACA versus the lack of any Wall Street prosecutions, then Tim riffs on the Tea Party's absurd origins as a scripted astroturf movement.
- 33:38Tea party anger started when regular people couldn't get satisfaction from the system, boiling over into populist movements.
- 34:01Organizers handed out scripts to tea party protesters, turning grassroots anger into coordinated messaging.
- 34:45The financial side pushed for certain policies, but people also said there should be more for Black people.
- 35:00Obama's Trayvon Martin statement—saying he could have been his son—was benign but people acted like he was endorsing cop killing.
- 35:17Obama decided healthcare was his defining issue, changed the conversation, and Tim considers him a good president overall.
- 35:31Fantasy of liking your national leader reveals you haven't grown up; everyone eventually realizes their leaders are just people making hard choices.
- 36:06People comfortable with lone-gunman narratives don't realize that when you're actually in power facing real threats, your thinking changes.
- 36:58House of Cards season six ends with Doug Stamper stabbing Claire in the oval office, then she stabs him back and says it's okay, fading to black.
House of CardsBarack ObamaTrayvon MartinDoug StamperJackie Kennedy