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Imagining a Chris Hedges vs. Jordan Peterson Debate
from America's Election Headquarters · #121
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3 minThey fantasize about a hypothetical debate between Chris Hedges and Jordan Peterson on poverty and violence trends, and recall Hedges' infamous booed commencement speech condemning the Iraq War.
- 57:06Tim pitches a hypothetical debate between Chris Hedges and Jordan Peterson as a mutual respect session where both make good points.
- 57:30Hedges and Peterson would clash on opposing worldviews: Hedges saying everything is wrong versus Peterson's claim that people are getting less poor through globalization and reduced violence.
- 57:53Tim expresses frustration that debates never actually solve anything, even when two smart people genuinely disagree.
- 58:12The best outcome in a debate is forcing someone to either retract their statement or admit to being wrong, like what happened with Richard Spencer.
- 58:34Chris Hedges gave a famous commencement speech at Rockford College in Illinois around 2003 during the Iraq War that got heavily booed.
- 58:48At the Rockford College speech, Hedges talked about how violence is glory while the crowd booed him.
- 59:06Hedges wrote his extremism chapter while standing with white knights and proud boys around a bonfire in upstate New York.
- 59:29Tim played poker with old Chinese women at the Taj and was propositioned multiple times by one of them.
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