Interview · moment 11 of 19
Friendship Cycles, Golden Ages, and Attracting Chaotic People
from The Morman and the Meth Head with Jessa Reed and Aaron Woodall · #120
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5 minGuest
The three discuss whether they surround themselves with static or transformative people; Tim argues friendships have a 'golden age' and describes his own attraction to chaotic, delusional, con-artist-type friends, including an anecdote about a friend with shamans burning leaves in her house.
- 28:54Tim switches characters almost every five years, attracting people from different versions of himself throughout his life.
- 29:20He's attracted to introspective people looking to get better and change things about themselves.
- 29:36Tim's controversial take: he makes new friends every two years, though it doesn't mean he stops loving people.
- 30:09People get angry when he says his friends change, claiming they've had the same five friends their whole life.
- 30:21Tim suggests it's sad to grow up with five people and never experience life changes like marrying a Satanist or buying a house with a subprime mortgage.
- 31:51All of Tim's friends are pathological liars, con artists, and self-interested people—yet somehow also good people.
- 32:17His friends pretend to have more money than they do and sneak into parts of society where they don't belong—they're chaos people.
- 32:39Tim describes a friend in L.A. who walks into three-star restaurants in sweatpants screaming at people and sleeps next to an Emmy won ten years ago.
- 32:55His chaotic friend had shamans burning leaves in her house to clear energy because she wanted to get married in 2019, despite already being married.
- 33:09Tim acknowledges he'll probably eventually have to mature and grow out of being drawn to chaotic people.
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