Episode 117 · The GaS Digital / Ray Kump Era
Fat Camp with Justin Silver
with Justin Silver
Oct 12, 2018 · 1:05:29 · 17 segments, 129 moments indexed
- 1 min
Cold Open: Vaping Jewels and Music Intro
#Show opens with music intro and Tim immediately razzing Ray Kump for constantly vaping/sucking on his 'jewel' vape device.
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- 0:01Show intro: Tim Dillon Is Going To Hell
- 1 min
Ray's Vape Addiction and No-Carb Diet Kickoff
#Tim mocks Ray's vaping habits and Red Bull consumption, then Ray reveals he's been doing a no-carb diet, prompting Tim to bring in weight loss expert Justin Silver.
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- 0:24Tim criticizes Ray's constant vaping habit, calling it disgusting and asking if this is his life now.
- 0:42Ray defends vaping by clarifying he doesn't use a mod, just a regular vape.
- 0:59Ray explains his vaping strategy: grazing like a cow so he eats less food overall.
- 1:10Tim argues Ray was actually healthier when he smoked cigarettes instead of vaping constantly.
- 1:24Tim points out Ray is coping with multiple addictions while criticizing Tim's sugar-free Red Bull consumption.
- 1:39Justin Silver, a weight loss expert, is brought on the show to evaluate their health choices.
- 3 min
Trainer Justin Silver lays out his philosophy on cutting dairy versus carbs, explains the 40-30-30 diet, and mocks fad ketosis diets, with Ray and Tim pushing back and joking about their own bad habits.
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- 2:00Tim's been doing no carb for a couple months and losing weight
- 2:27Adding fat to manipulate insulin response — an advanced no-carb technique Justin hasn't tried yet
- 3:14Eliminating dairy matters more than cutting carbs because of inflammation and pus content in milk products
- 3:37The practical approach: cut carbs in half by eating the meat and leaving the bread, plus drink more water
- 3:55Tim asks Justin directly whether he considers both of them overweight
- 4:08Tim questions whether ketosis is actually valuable or just an extreme
- 4:21Going into ketosis causes you to lose macronutrients and creates an unsustainable extreme people can't maintain long-term
- 4:41Justin brings up the 40-30-30 diet as a balanced alternative to ketosis
- 4:59Tracy Carnazzo's Whole 30 confusion: Ray thought it meant eating a whole chicken every day for 30 days
Tracy carneazzo
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Justin interrogates Ray's actual meals from that day (eggs and hash browns, a $322 shellfish tower lunch, burger and fries dinner) and prescribes swaps like egg whites and wraps, while Tim riffs on being iced by restaurants and sushi portions.
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- 5:24Tim's breakfast: two eggs over medium, turkey hash browns, ketchup.
- 5:36Tim defends eating whole eggs despite pushback about yolk fat content.
- 5:58Tim cites recent science claiming dietary cholesterol doesn't raise blood cholesterol.
- 6:46The nutrition advice: lean protein and carbs in matching gram ratios, egg whites over whole eggs.
- 7:07Tim notes it looks weird pairing two eggs with a banana instead of hash browns.
- 7:26Tim describes his airplane meals—oranges, grapefruit, nuts, and strange proteins like tofu jerky.
- 7:38Tim eats tuna wraps with no mayo because normal tuna looks weird.
- 7:53Bodybuilders eating plain chicken straight from Tupperware while cutting from 40% to 12% body fat.
- 8:26Tim admits he was recently eating M&Ms and cheesy burritos before changing his diet a couple months ago.
- 3 min
Justin describes how he coached their friend Louis through weight loss using roll-ups and meal timing, then the group mocks Ray for peeing on ketosis test strips in restaurant bathrooms.
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- 8:53Tim's weight-loss coaching approach for Lewis: start with foods he already liked, then make strategic substitutions.
- 9:06Instead of ham and cheese sandwiches, roll them up without bread to eliminate mayo and keep satisfaction high.
- 9:20Timing and meal structure matter more than complete restriction — three meals and two snacks instead of constant grazing throughout the day.
- 9:56Tim's rule for carbs: eat bread and sandwiches early in the day when you'll burn them off, not at night before sleep.
- 10:26Lewis dropped 20 to 25 pounds in two and a half weeks after giving up dairy following a bad ice cream incident.
- 10:45Tim compares quitting dairy to quitting alcohol — some people can go back selectively, others can't, and that's okay.
- 11:03The coaching isn't about telling someone what they ate wrong; it's about offering better swaps within what they actually want to eat.
- 11:15Egg whites with turkey and cheese in a wrap works better than egg whites with hash browns, because you have to sacrifice something.
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Justin admits his own history with a Domino's twisty bread addiction and a jagged rotten tooth from working at a potato bread warehouse, while Tim and Ray needle him about never truly being fat, leading to a phone hunt for old photos.
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- 11:38Tim ate nothing but seafood cocktails at a restaurant and got overcharged when they iced the platter.
- 12:03Sushi restaurants stuff rolls with rice to make them bigger and charge by volume.
- 12:30At lunch, Tim and his friend split a tuna steak, burger with cheese and bread, fries with Gorgonzola, garlic mushrooms, and sorbet—all for $322 for two people.
- 13:05Tim claims he didn't realize what was happening while running up a massive lunch bill.
- 13:21Tim insists he likes salads, specifically ones that are breaded.
- 13:40People blame salad dressing and vinaigrette for his weight, but Tim argues he got fat eating wedding cake by himself, not condiments.
- 3 min
Camden, New Jersey Cheesesteak Horror Story
#Tim tells a vivid story about visiting a bombed-out, dangerous Camden, New Jersey with Big Jay Oakerson for a cheesesteak at Donkey's, describing the burnt-out buildings, prostitutes, and a kid who called him a fat fuck.
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- 14:06Tim admits he eats too much and has to rein it in for his health.
- 14:17Proposal: tracking everything eaten over four days to see actual consumption patterns and identify what to cut.
- 14:47Justin used to test ketosis by pissing on strips in restaurant bathrooms to verify he was still in ketosis.
- 15:46Tim lists his entire day's food: a quarter pound of prosciutto parm from Whole Foods and a few almonds.
- 16:03Justin brought a deli platter and walked around offering meat to people throughout the day.
- 16:19Tim challenges Justin's claim about being a chubby person, calling him full of shit and demanding proof.
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They dig up and text around old photos of Justin as a teenager to settle whether he was ever genuinely overweight, with Tim and Ray insisting he was always conventionally attractive and dismissing his 'chubby kid' claims.
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- 16:51Tim explains his body frame and what counted as chubby for him in his twenties, measuring waist size difference.
- 17:09He describes ordering terrible Domino's twisty bread soaked in chemicals and dry oregano, then destroying it in the box.
- 17:46Cavanaugh calls him a fat slut for eating a burrito at Taco Bell and breaking his tooth.
- 17:58Tim had a rotten, jagged tooth while working the graveyard shift at a potato bread warehouse.
- 18:31He used a metal nail file and his coworker's truck mirror to file down his jagged tooth at a supermarket on the bread route.
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Emotional Eating, Jewish Self-Hatred, and Airplane Fat-Girl Theory
#The conversation turns to emotional eating and food as a coping mechanism, Tim's theory about the two types of women who sit next to fat men on planes, and his own self-professed Jewish self-hatred mirrored by Justin's complaints about Ray's habits.
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- 19:06Tim acknowledges there's an emotional component to eating
- 19:28Cognitive behavioral therapy helps with the emotional side, but he separates that from the mechanics of weight loss
- 19:45Tim has lost 100 pounds and knows the mechanics work
- 20:06Ray holds court asking why people are fat while doing nothing to lose weight himself
- 20:27An inch and a half of weight loss described as moving from a parachute to a slightly smaller parachute
- 20:53People with food addictions try extreme diets and deprive themselves until they relapse
- 21:03Ray is not being honest about how much weight he's actually lost
- 21:41Tim was harassed by a 12-year-old girl in Camden, New Jersey who called him a fat fuck while he ate a cheesesteak at Donkey's
Camden, New JerseyBobby KellyAnthony D. DeMintico
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Justin and the guys hash out realistic weight-loss targets for Ray, mocking his math of wanting to lose 'at least a hundred pounds,' and Justin pushes back on extreme all-or-nothing dieting versus gradual habit change.
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- 22:24Tim describes driving through Camden, New Jersey at night with Big J and encountering the smell of burnt-out buildings mixed with mildew.
- 22:36The post-apocalyptic atmosphere of Camden: burnt buildings, moist air, and prostitutes in starter jackets standing outside with their kids.
- 22:59Tim recounts going to the South Bronx as a young white kid on mopeds to get chicken from a spot, but says Camden was scarier than anywhere he'd been.
- 23:25Argument breaks out about cheesesteaks: Tim dismisses them as nothing special and suggests the meat is like rat meat.
- 23:43Tim explains what makes a proper cheesesteak—the key is the onions cooked in a pan with salt, pepper, and spices, and using real hanger steak instead of strips.
- 24:06Tim mentions going to Dinex for a pork sandwich with broccoli rabe that was called the best sandwich in America on Travel Channel, though he's not convinced.
Camden, New JerseyDinex
- 3 min
They launch a fake call-in hotline for nutrition questions; first caller Kyle from New Jersey discusses his modest testosterone regimen, leading to a Celebrity Rehab tangent about a Baywatch actor's steroid stack.
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- 24:36Tim and Alan Finner are getting a new kitchen together, with Finner's half-million-dollar townhouse as the backdrop.
- 24:55Alan Finner stealing shrimp from Tim's guests who've never had shellfish before.
- 25:19Tim discusses how some people grow up without access to nice food, unlike New Yorkers.
- 25:39Kyle from New Jersey announces plans to go keto and cut out dairy.
- 26:00Tim questions whether Kyle could actually be a Navy SEAL.
- 26:18Kyle claims he got his mile down to eight minutes and has a swimming merit badge from Boy Scouts.
- 26:29Kyle reveals he's an Eagle Scout and has letters from presidents congratulating him.
- 26:58Tim explains that going extreme with diet was a shock to stop being unhealthy, now gradually shifting to sustainable eating habits.
- 27:22Kyle defends his keto approach, saying he's eating lean meat, not pounds of bacon daily.
- 27:37Tim explains that water is probably the only reason he's alive and discusses how it flushes your system.
Alan FinnerNavy SEAL
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Carl George from Vermont calls in asking if Tim should go back on cocaine or crystal meth to lose weight, prompting Justin to explain why the coke diet fails due to next-day comfort eating, before Carl hangs up abruptly.
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- 27:54Tim's weight-loss technique: drink 16 ounces of water, wait two minutes, then order food to fill the stomach faster and eat less overall.
- 28:06His mother used to serve dessert immediately after dinner so Tim wouldn't want it once he was full—the kind of food noise that shaped his eating habits.
- 28:23Tim eats dessert first, though he's not actually a big sweets guy—he prefers savory foods like gyros and pita bread with tzatziki.
- 28:35Anxiety is great for weight loss because your heart rate stays elevated.
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Justin explains why bathroom scales and daily fluctuation are misleading, riffs on Jordan Peterson's carnivore diet curing his autoimmune disorder, and Ray recounts finding a worm in his stool as a kid and eating whole garlic cloves.
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- 28:47Tim explains how he handled stress by freaking out and praying constantly as a kid, which he eventually stopped doing in sixth grade.
- 29:28Tim insists he was always a chubby kid, though he admits he wasn't particularly fat in senior year.
- 29:41He defends his childhood appearance against skepticism, claiming he was a gorgeous boy with photos to prove it.
- 30:04A 2001-2002 photo from when Tim was a lifeguard gets examined, with Justin questioning whether he was actually thin back then.
- 30:56Tim insists the photo shows he was hot, declaring he needs to start running again and attributing his current state to food photos on his phone.
- 31:25He pulls out another photo from dance class showing off his appearance, claiming he was a gorgeous boy with even better shots available.
- 31:44When asked what he ate back then, Tim says he was just eating regular food and wasn't on any special diet.
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Tim tells his story of getting food poisoning and hitting his head while high on two Ambien on a flight from Hong Kong, then caller Michael asks about intermittent fasting and gets compared to their overweight friend Louis.
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- 31:54The emotional void food fills: feelings of worthlessness and not deserving.
- 32:06Tim suggests moving to another vice instead, like sex or drugs, to address the underlying anxiety and depression.
- 32:24His take on sex addiction: if you're a sex addict, you're gay.
- 32:47Looking through old photos, analyzing his appearance from high school as someone who could go either way.
- 33:09Not all babies are cute — he's seen ugly babies, though the caller was a cute baby.
- 33:30Tim comments on the caller's fat friends and suggests he needs to hang around thinner people.
- 33:52Sitting next to a fat person on a plane means facing one of two types of women: one who fetishizes you, or one disgusted by your flesh spilling into her seat.
- 34:33The caller grew to hate fat people while running and losing weight, realizing it was actually self-hatred.
- 34:49Tim describes having Jewish self-hatred without the annoying Jewish stereotypes, but carrying the Italian tendency to complain and be pushy.
- 35:13He and the caller are spoiled New Yorkers who complain everywhere they go isn't as good as New York.
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Caller Alex asks how to get enough fiber, leading to a garlic-and-spinach recipe riff, then Justin debunks the idea that skinny guys need tons of protein to bulk up, citing gorillas and rhinos as vegetarian strongmen.
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- 35:38Tim's Jewish self-hatred makes him find Jewish cultural practices more annoying than they are.
- 36:04Discussion of sushi rolls and brown rice as a healthy eating option.
- 36:21Tim justifies eating whatever he wants because he's physically active and walks eight or nine miles daily.
- 36:44Guest observes that Tim walks like a lean guy—moves fast with good posture, unlike heavy guys who waddle.
- 37:04Tim checked his step count and walked 3.9 miles, which he dismisses as not much.
- 37:23Aerobic versus anaerobic metabolism: wind sprints and interval training actually burn fat, not casual walking.
- 37:58Wind sprints and keto are extreme methods boxers use to make weight, a reaction to hating being heavy.
- 38:26Guest suggests incorporating moderate healthy habits like gym four days a week with incline walking instead of extremes.
- 38:56Tim compares his dietary obsession to an alcoholic—when he indulges here and there, he gets into trouble.
- 39:28Tim needs to lose at least a hundred pounds before he can meaningfully work on exalting himself.
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Final caller Ben asks about the low-carb high-fat diet craze, Justin explains why elimination diets rebound, and there's an extended bit mocking Bobby for fumbling the phone lines while trying to connect callers.
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- 40:01Tim asks if they can take calls and offers to field weight loss questions for Justin Silver and Ray.
- 40:29Bobby gives out the call-in number: 573 Gasline.
- 40:45Tim contrasts his gradual approach to fitness with extreme methods, arguing the Army doesn't slowly teach you to kill people either.
- 41:42Bobby says he decided in Philly he doesn't want to be fat anymore, but admits he gains weight back after finding a hot guy to sleep with.
- 42:18Tim argues against eliminating entire food groups because the extreme approach makes people abandon the diet and overcompensate.
- 42:41Bobby notes weight loss is unlike alcoholism because people have to eat food, so they can't completely avoid the temptation.
- 43:38First caller Kyle from New Jersey asks if Justin thinks steroids would help with weight loss.
- 43:50Justin explains that while steroids raise muscle tone and metabolism, incorporating healthy eating habits is more effective for fighting obesity.
- 44:27Tim jokes that testosterone gives you a boner and asks the caller what his steroid stack is.
- 45:24Kyle reveals he's just taking testosterone at 125 milligrams a week, not a complex steroid stack.
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The show wraps with Justin Silver plugging his Anxiety Attack comedy show and promo code, plus everyone rattling off social media handles and upcoming tour dates before signing off.
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- 45:51Tim recounts a Celebrity Rehab story about a steroid user comparing his dose to a bull tranquilizer pre-slaughter.
- 46:50Caller asks if Tim should relapse on cocaine to lose weight, powder or crack form—Justin Silver explains why that backfires.
- 48:02Justin breaks down cocaine diet myths: the next-day crash leads to comfort eating and weight gain, then discusses crystal meth as a cheaper alternative.
- 49:10Tim warns that crystal meth will probably kill you, though you may look thinner as a corpse.
- 50:01Tim argues people shouldn't use bathroom scales because daily weight fluctuates 10 pounds based on salt, water, and bowel movements.
- 50:46Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life is mentioned; Tim jokes one rule should be don't need a $300 shellfish tower.
- 51:48Justin describes shitting a tiny worm as a child and the doctor explaining it came from eating certain fish.
- 53:05Tim had food poisoning on a Hong Kong-to-NYC flight on two Ambiens, hit his head, and got a concussion.
- 54:36Justin argues intermittent fasting is often misconstrued and people keep the fast too long, especially if already obese.
- 55:59Tim defends Joe Rogan's fitness as a world-class athlete trying extreme diets, not a guide for overweight people.
- 59:50Justin claims the strongest animals—gorillas, bears, rhinos—are vegetarians, so people don't need as much protein as they think.
- 1:01:16Tim plugs Anxiety Attack, a show on the 18th at New York Comedy Club's East Village location with Mike Vecchione and Jessica Curse.
- 1:04:33Justin Silver promotes his show with promo code AA for discounted tickets, mentions Tim's 20-minute set.
- 1:04:58Ray announces he's performing at the Vine Bar Thursday and the Brokerage on October 26th and 27th.
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